"Presentation" gives me goosebumps every time. Such a great scene
What is a story were the main villain actually turned out to be the good guy?
3 years ago by Lanky_Pomegranate530 to c/asklemmy
bionicjoey 27 points 3 years ago
lazylion_ca 2 points 3 years ago
Unfortunately the sequel absolutely lacks presentation. Its like they completely forgot what made the first movie good.
bionicjoey 3 points 3 years ago
There's a sequel? 😬
lazylion_ca 2 points 3 years ago
Sadly yes.
atlasraven31 86 points 3 years ago
Magneto in the 90s. He even built an asteroid as a refuge for any mutant.
turkishdelight 31 points 3 years ago
The older I get, more I agree with Magneto.
FreakinSteve 18 points 3 years ago
Magneto ftw. Xavier is a naive little bitch.
"You're always sorry, Charles ...and there's always a speech!....but nobody cares."
atlasraven31 10 points 3 years ago
When the Sentinels start rounding up mutants, it is the biggest "I told you so" to Charles.
SplashJackson 20 points 3 years ago
A Bioshock-like game set on Asteroid M would be, if you will excuse the parlance, baller.
impudentmortal 6 points 3 years ago
You could say it would be out of this world.
idiomaddict 57 points 3 years ago
In the third season of the legend of korra, a group of people try to get rid of a monarchy (which is long established as especially unequal and oppressive) in favor of self government. They also try to get rid of the avatar, because she is an infallible being with incredibly outsized power. I love the avatar universe and get how they needed to fight them, but the group wasn’t wrong
ltxrtquq 54 points 3 years ago
Even the first season had Amon, the guy that wanted equality between benders and non-benders. At one point we're even shown that power was cut to a predominantly non-bender neighborhood, and when people went outside to protest to get their power turned back on, they were all rounded up and arrested. Afterwards, when Korra goes and tries to get the people that were arrested set free, she's told
All equalist suspects are being detained indefinitely. They'll be freed if and when the task force deems them no longer a threat.
Just in case it wasn't clear enough by that point that non-benders were treated as second class citizens.
Revan343 9 points 3 years ago
All of the LoK villains were basically correct, and had to be caricatures of their stated beliefs in order to be villains. Amon was one of the better ones IMO though. Zaheer is too unrealistic
paultimate14 18 points 3 years ago
I've been meaning to re-watch Korra, but I remember even the first time I watched it being a bit disappointed in the "enlightened centrism" where they are trying to paint every conflict as pacifists vs extremists.
I think it's similar to looking at BioShock 1 and BioShock Infinite. There's a lot of writers out there who just use politics and ideology as a setting for the conflict rather than actually being central to their message. It's simply a solid formula to make a villain: take any sort of stance and push it to violent extremes. Comstock is a religious zealot, Andrew Ryan I don't think ever even mentions spirituality if I remember. Ken Levine's message in the two games is not about religion, but extremes.
There are benefits. It makes the villains more nuanced and relatable. It gives the protagonist room for doubt and allows for some of the "good" guys to take on antagonistic roles. But Korra also ends up supporting an oppressive regime, and Booker DeWitt gets shoehorned into fights against the people rebelling against his enemy because... Reasons?
VaultBoyNewVegas 12 points 3 years ago
If you're talking about Kuvira you should read the comics that take place after the show. My feelings on Kuvira became much more mixed as I ended up sympathizing with her after finishing them.
InfiniWheel 10 points 3 years ago
Its about Zaheer and his gang
VaultBoyNewVegas 5 points 3 years ago
Oh. In my defense I haven't watched Korra for years and thought it was only 3 seasons.
JowlesMcGee 1 point 3 years ago
He's talking about Zaheer and the Red Lotus. They were extremely well intentioned, but set about their goals with violence.
QuestioningEspecialy 1 point 3 years ago
was there a reasonable alternative?
VaultBoyNewVegas 0 points 3 years ago
Mate. I already got corrected, what's the point of telling me the same thing twice? Unless you just want attention. Blocking you.
idiomaddict 4 points 3 years ago
Probably a brain fart, thanks s
dandroid 5 points 3 years ago
I think what made that group such good villains is that you could definitely see their point of view. That said, they left behind a TON of collateral damage, and they didn't seem to care that innocent people, including children, died in their wake everywhere they went. They were terrorists that happened to have a noble cause.
xkforce 1 point 3 years ago
No they definitely were bad guys. You cant try to murder someone just because they were born as a specific person you dont like and be good guys. And they didnt differentiate between the Earth queen and any other ruler. Their ideology when it came down to it, was indefensible trash.
Modern_medicine_isnt 55 points 3 years ago
The bible
RIPandTERROR 5 points 3 years ago
Damn... I thought I had a unique thought
JackGreenEarth 4 points 3 years ago
Who's the 'main villain' in the Bible?
Modern_medicine_isnt 6 points 3 years ago
If you were asked that on family fued, the top answer would be satan for sure. Though I like the other persons answer of humanity too.
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dutchkimble 4 points 3 years ago
Uhh...Satan?
Deceptichum 1 point 3 years ago
Nah that’s where the good guy turns out to be a shit bag who murders kids, gets women raped, makes people kill their children, and genocides the world.
Modern_medicine_isnt 1 point 3 years ago
Well sure, that too. Essentially he tortures all his believers.
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shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit 42 points 3 years ago
Watch 'The Wire' - the good guys are bad guys, bad guys are good guys. It's all mixed up!
rustyfish 40 points 3 years ago
Voyager kinda fucks with my ability to set spoiler tags, so here is your Spoiler Warning.
The Cabin in the Woods (even tho the organisation is run by complete assholes, they also happen to postpone the end of the word)
Mass Effect series (the Geth are actually ok having peace with everyone. They just happen to be in a civil war with Reaper worshippers)
Witcher 2 (Letho turns out to be the good guy)
Wanted (the father turns out to be the good guy)
Battlestar Galactica 2004 series (yes, the Cylons enacted the nuclear holocaust on humanity, but there is a case to be made that the vast majority of them have been manipulated by a faction of ancient Cylons, which leads to a civil war later in the show)
jeremyparker 18 points 3 years ago
Cylons being manipulated by other cylons doesn't absolve them of guilt.
BSG did have a few instances of the reverse of OP's question tho -- where the "good guys" turned out to be bad" -- trying to say this without spoilers; it's a 20 year old show but ffs of you haven't seen it, go see it now.
- the (temporary) new admiral
- several main characters during the part where they live on the dirty planet
- a very specific set of seven main characters (wink wink) ... .and more,..
And there's one specific example of the full 360 -- a character that starts good, turns bad, but turns out they were actually good all along. I won't give the name, but they were passing messages to the resistance.
That show was awesome.
One note tho, on the topic generally: flipping character alignments is a frequent pre-shark-jump thing, and is often bad writing. In BSG, tho, all of the "flips" are pre-planned, or at least 100% true to their character (eg the 360 example above).
rustyfish 11 points 3 years ago
BSG is one of the best shows I have ever watched and not a single twist came across as forced or unnatural.
If I think about that I started watching it years after it was made and only started because I was bored out of my mind at that time. I could have missed it so easily.
roscoe 7 points 3 years ago
Same here, I think I started it during the lack of new content after the 07-08 writers strike. I thought it would be a mid sci-fi show I would put on for background then it turned out to be awesome.
Jakeroxs 2 points 3 years ago
From someone who has never seen anything about BSG besides jokes here and there in media, where would I start? The 2003 miniseries into the show? Should I start farther back?
dev_null 5 points 3 years ago
He doesn't "turn bad". He's good all along, but he's a target of a witch hunt, understandably gets jaded by it and gets absolved at the last moment. It's the judging commission or however they called themselves who are the bad guys there. Gaeta is innocent all along, even if he is annoying at times.
jeremyparker 1 point 3 years ago
You're right, I'll concede that -- but only because BSG is an amazing show and very few characters can be reduced to "good" and "bad" -- even the "antagonists" (in the traditional sense of those characters working against the stories' progression) have pretty valid reasons for doing what they do.
Gaius (sp?) is one of the closest characters to "bad" -- but not because of the bad things he does, but because of the bad things he is -- ie, vain, selfish, etc -- and the fact that he lets those negative characteristics drive his actions.
All the characters have flaws, but the "good" characters do their best to mitigate their flaws, and let their positive traits motivate them. For example, Adama often acts before he thinks, a trait that is awesome in combat, but can be less positive other times -- and he (as best he can) seeks advice and counsel from the people he trusts (eg Saul Tigh) -- he knows he can be impulsive and he knows his "instant judgement" decision making isn't perfect.
Cavil (that's his name I think) is close to "evil" but he does have reasons for his actions -- preservation of his "species" (though really it's just himself) -- but he's evil because of the fact that he doesn't listen and acts with disloyalty and dishonor.
(There's an amazing comeuppance for the titular character of the show Nathan Barley that epitomizes this idea: Barley doesn't actually do anything wrong, but his motivations are repugnant, and his motivations are what's revealed... Shit I should write a whole essay on that....)
Are there contemporary shows that are as good as BSG? I kind of gave up on TV after Firefly.
paultimate14 38 points 3 years ago
Pokemon Sword and Shield.
Rose is trying to move the country off of fossil fuels and onto sustainable green energy. Somehow Gamefreak manages to portray this as being a terrorist and extremist. How dare he try to move Galar away from coal?
kplaceholder 11 points 3 years ago
I mean, he did recreate a cataclysmic event in the process, and the projected crisis was bound to happen in 1000 years... One can never be too prepared I guess.
What is that even trying to say? That there is such thing as going too far when fighting the energy crisis? lol
Seasoned_Greetings 34 points 3 years ago
Does Dr Doom count for this? He believes he's seen humanity perish in every reality except the one where he becomes the absolute ruler.
FlaminGoku 3 points 3 years ago
Yeah and he gets unlimited power from the sabertooth looking god or whatever.
Kornblumenratte 34 points 3 years ago
Not exactly a story. I just watched Babylon 5, and it's fascinating how the good guys are the bad guys are the good guys are the bad guys...
theterrasque 7 points 3 years ago
Who are you?
What do you want?
Also, I think good and bad is a bit fluid there. It's just people with different agendas. Well, except emperor Cartagia. And perhaps Bester.
Kornblumenratte 1 point 3 years ago
It's Me, Myself and I.
Achieving a state of complacementness in an unperfect world full of suffering and joy.
Yep – that's what I like about it. Good and bad are fluid, like in reality. Even Bester is shown to be a caring character striving for the good of his people.
Kornblumenratte 1 point 3 years ago
No bad guys are good guys. And most good guys are not good guys, either.
The Shadows, the Centauri and the PSI Corps are introduced as "bad guys" but gain a lot of positive aspects during the show without becoming "good guys". The Nightwatch and the Earth Governement under president Clark are "bad guys" – but quite a few of there supporters/members become important "good" characters, like Zach Allan, Elizabeth Lochley or Susanna Luchenko.
That's my point about the Babylon 5 series – they deconstruct the good guy/bad guy meme. Mostly.
cheese_greater 4 points 3 years ago
How was Jerry evil? Mice gotta skim
xkforce 24 points 3 years ago
Jerry antagonized Tom into attacking him more often than not. He viewed it as a game rather than a life or death struggle. Tom OTOH would be kicked out on the street if he didn't try to keep Jerry under control.
cheese_greater 10 points 3 years ago
I bet its that Jerry has that toxoplasmosis making him unafraid of cats. In that light, nobody's at fault. Its just nature shit happening to play out in the domestic sphere
IgnatiusJReilly 5 points 3 years ago
Some Guinness was spilt on the barroom floor, when the pub was shut for the night. Out of his hole crept a wee brown mouse & stood in the pale moon light. He lapped up the frothy brew from the floor, then back on haunches he sat. And all night long you could hear him roar, "Bring on the goddamn cat!
- Irish poem
daddyjones 40 points 3 years ago
Snape was never a good guy though. Very brave, yes and he had some good qualities. He was also vindictive and a bully - willing to put his petty dislikes above the quality of his teaching.
turkishdelight 52 points 3 years ago
He was also vindictive and a bully
I formed the impression that James Potter and his gang were the real bullies, and Snape is a tragic character traumatized by their bullying.
turkishdelight 13 points 3 years ago
The book strongly implies that Snape turns into a horrible person as a direct consequence of James Potter's bullying. He seems to be a nice kid before that.
fleabomber 9 points 3 years ago
Oh wow, you found my epitaph.
The_wild_card 2 points 3 years ago
Maybe it was an act he had to play
520 1 point 3 years ago
Remember that we see this scene through Snape's memories - something wizards are able to distort to varying degrees.
It may well be that we aren't seeing the full story. It is revealed later that tit-for-tat behaviour was quite common to the both of them.
Illuminostro 24 points 3 years ago
Falling Down. Prendergrass is the good guy.
emptyother 27 points 3 years ago
I cant see Ozymandias as a good guy. At all. None of the "heroes" are, but Oz was the worst of them.
ThatWeirdGuy1001 11 points 3 years ago
In the movie the only one I would've considered good was Rorschach. He was the only one who only made personal sacrifices to save people.
I mean dude legit let himself be killed because he couldn't live with not telling the world what Ozymandius actually did.
Akasazh 7 points 3 years ago
Rorschach being good is debatable, he's a Batman like vigilante who hasn't the 'no killing' rule, which is dubious.
But the reason he chose death was (in my humble opinion) that he realized Veidt had found the solution, that would bring peace and create a world he would be useless in.
This point is made by the ultra nationalist frontiersman publication he sent his diary to. They complain that they have nothing to write about as the world was united in boring peace, this is when the burger munching intern gets the assignment to pull something out of the loonie pile.
teawrecks 11 points 3 years ago
I should re-read it, but the impression I got was that Oz was the epitome of this thread's topic. A real "ends justify the means" villain, where his end goal is to save the world from itself by giving it a common enemy to vanquish. And he does it. In terms of the classical trolley problem, he pulled the lever to kill 1 instead of doing nothing and allowing 5 to die. Am I misremembering?
zaphod 8 points 3 years ago
That's roughly right, but that doesn't make him in any meaningful way "good". Of course I also don't think anyone who decided to drop the bombs on Japan was a "good guy". But maybe that's why I'm not a pure utilitarian.
emptyother 5 points 3 years ago
Veidt asked the precognitive being if his plans for utopia would come to be, and if it was all worth it in the end. Osterman cryptically responded by saying "Nothing ever ends", and teleported away leaving Veidt once again in doubt as to whether or not his plan was successful.
From what I understood, he spent the whole story acting super-sure about what would happen if he did nothing, and how he alone could fix it. But in the end of the comic, this showed he had doubts. Veidt didnt have precognition, just very good prediction. But also an over-inflated ego. He killed a lot of people for a "maybe".
The_wild_card 23 points 3 years ago
Nah ozymandies was kind of an ass regardless . Did he solve a big problem ? Yes . Was he a good guy ? Far from it.
QuestioningEspecialy 1 point 3 years ago
holy shit, you in for a treat
there's atleast an hour's worth more of a movie in the comic
also, the motion comic's pretty freakin' dope
FaceDeer 6 points 3 years ago
The villains had the goal of driving back the fungal forest, which was advancing and destroying civilization. They didn't know that it was filtering pollutants out of water, and they were using militaristic techniques that have the designated "evil" tag but that IMO should be considered in a more nuanced way.
Basically, Nausicaa thought she was in the post-apocalypse and wanted to "live in harmony" with the state of the world. The Valley of the Wind had unique advantages allowing them to do that. Kushana thought the apocalypse was still ongoing, and it was - we saw that other settlements that didn't have the special meteorological layout of the Valley of the Wind were being overrun by advancing fungal forests.
From a very slightly different perspective, Kushana was the hero here. She was unifying a disorganized and doomed rabble of survivors to work against their doom, and recovered an ancient superweapon to turn it into a protective force that would save humanity instead of attacking it. She turned out to be wrong about a few things but being wrong doesn't make you evil. I'd argue that she wasn't really wrong about some of the important stuff and the movie ends on a mixed note.
It's been a little while since I've seen the movie, mind you, but it stuck with me pretty strongly.
sentient_loom 14 points 3 years ago
I think Jaime becomes a good guy. He starts out as a bad guy but he had a redemption arc.
The_wild_card 4 points 3 years ago
Not everyone i thought jon, robert, ned, arya,hoddor and tyrrion was good and thats from the top of my head.
Skua 1 point 3 years ago
They did for a long time, having him gradually come around and begin to redeem himself, and then made an incredibly confusing decision to have him suddenly revert to his old ways right at the very end with no warning whatsoever
xmunk 1 point 3 years ago
Yes, very significantly. Jamie in the show introspected on the person he used to be and clearly grew. I think books Jamie was meant to feel the same way but got less focus to demonstrate that growth.
NigelFrobisher 15 points 3 years ago
God Emperor Of Dune. Leto II needs his bath time.
SendMePhotos 14 points 3 years ago
Does borderlands count?
!handsome jack started off as an honorable person with morals, but was repeatedly stabbed in the back and jaded over time. He still has the mindset of a good guy but the chaotic planning of a bad guy due to the experiences that he's had.!<
Feathercrown 6 points 3 years ago
Darn app users messing with our site, get off my lawn!
SendMePhotos 4 points 3 years ago
It's true! I'm using sync... It works on sync but I guess not on lemmy itself?
Feathercrown 3 points 3 years ago
Yup. Here's what it looks like to everyone else:
I mean I think lemmy's spoiler syntax is weird but when in Rome... shoulda used it, Sync 😑
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hactar42 10 points 3 years ago
I would say that Lex Luthor is more of a villain who sees himself as the good guy. He thinks he is humanity's savior from what he perceives as an alien threat. Whether he is evil or not depends on the actions of Superman.
sxan 14 points 3 years ago
The French version of La Femme Nikita, although it's more of a redemption arc than "villain turning out to be a good guy." She starts out as a junkie petty crook who murders a cop in cold blood, spends most of the film assassinating people for the government, and in the end seems to have gotten her life together.
But she starts out as a very not-nice person.
dessalines 5 points 3 years ago
I loved the Vampire Lestat.
The golden hour.
schnurrito 13 points 3 years ago
Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban comes to mind.
impudentmortal 12 points 3 years ago
Ferris Beuler's Day Off
impudentmortal 1 point 3 years ago
It's been a while since I've seen the film, but I'd say both.
Rooney just wanted proof that Ferris was skipping school, which he was. He went about it the wrong way by entering the Bueller household but he was basically just trying to do his job. He definitely gets obsessive about it but he's not in the wrong.
Jeanie is pretty self explanatory. She also just wants Ferris to suffer the consequences of his actions.
I think this movie never sat well with me because Ferris obviously does so many wrong and criminal things but is actually rewarded for it. Sure, you should take the time to enjoy life but not at the expense of others.
cheese_greater 12 points 3 years ago
Peter Pan. Something, something, Pan's a little fuck
Deceptichum 2 points 3 years ago
And he openly mocks a disabled guy.
cheese_greater 1 point 3 years ago
Who's that?
Deceptichum 2 points 3 years ago
Hook.
Can’t just call him James, no, no he has to really latch onto his surname after he loses his hand and gets it replaced by a hook.
cheese_greater 1 point 3 years ago
I mean, its more a disabillity for anyone who crosses him in combat unarmed
WilfordGrimley 9 points 3 years ago
Jafar in Twisted. So so good.
LoreleiSankTheShip 5 points 3 years ago
Twisted is what made me love musicals. They're not a big thing in my culture, our theatre is strictly non-musical, and the movie ones seemed weird to me. But after watching Twisted, they all clicked for me. Everyone should give it a watch!
pixelscript 9 points 3 years ago
Xenoblade Chronicles
wargreymon2023 8 points 3 years ago
Lordgenome, Tengan Toppa Gurren Lagann
QuestioningEspecialy 2 points 3 years ago
the method was the problem as far as i'm concerned
not that i saw enough episodes pre-timeskip to have a strong opinion, though
state_electrician 5 points 3 years ago
"Villains by Necessity" by Eve Forward.
atimehoodie 5 points 3 years ago
The Good Place, season 2.
sentient_loom 5 points 3 years ago
Texas Chainsaw Massacre
RIP_Cheems 1 point 3 years ago
The newer one? If so, yeah, that's true.
davesknothere 15 points 3 years ago
Zuko, maybe?
JackGreenEarth 1 point 3 years ago
Zuka was never the villain, it was always Ozai, or maybe Azula.
NickwithaC 2 points 3 years ago
I'd say that's an "everyone sucks here" type of story.
FreakinSteve 3 points 3 years ago
Sophia, Garden of Eden, Genesis
tjhart85 2 points 3 years ago
Interview With a Vampire ... kind of ... Lestat was by no means good to Louis, but their portrayals in the rest of the series was quite different ... I think that Anne Rice was trying to show that neither of them should be considered reliable narrators and Louis will always try to portray his situation as awfully as possible and Lestat is a narcissist and will always try to portray himself in the best light even when acknowledging what he did incorrectly.
But, when I saw that book 2 was about Lestat, I was like ... wtf ... I hate this guy, why would I want a story with him as the main character and then I read them all, lol.
JowlesMcGee 1 point 3 years ago
I'll never stop complaining that in the second movie Dooku tells Obi-Wan that the Separatists are the good guys and that there's a sith influencing the Senate. Which would have been a cool reveal for the audience, that we're rooting for the bad guys.
But then Dooku is also a sith anyway. What a wasted opportunity.
QuestioningEspecialy 1 point 3 years ago
something something "From my perspective the Jedi are evil."
something something "You were supposed to bring balance to the force, not destroy it."
Whirlgirl9 1 point 3 years ago
The Quarians vs the Geth...the Quarians did the Geth dirty
Bonehead 2 points 3 years ago
You assume the trolley existed to begin with. There's no guarantee that Ozymandias' predictions were right. We've been there before, in real life, and turned it back. Nothing says that wouldn't have happened in their world as well. That's why he's not actually a good guy...he took away the option to choose, and killed millions in the process.
Gabu 1 point 3 years ago
In a sense, Bleach - twice!
spoiler
Sousuke Aizen used deplorable methods in his attempt to achieve godhood and conquer the "empty throne of god", but was ultimately justified when the forces of Yhwach, the legitimate son of God decided to invade and lay waste to the Soul Society. Subverted yet again when it is revealed that the current "Soul King" (the lynchpin that hold reality together and the pretend-ruler of the world) is in fact an empty husk of the original God, who was assassinated by the Shinigami because they feared his powers, and Yhwach's bloody conquest was in fact an attempt at revenge. Some of his final words before dying are "I will create a world without the fear of death".
QuestioningEspecialy 1 point 3 years ago
...so the (racist af) Tsukimichi series/manga/webnovel has this Demon race, right? Whole isekai happens because they instigate a war against the h(y)umans outta nowhere and the Goddess needs a hero.
spoiler
Well~ turns out these mofos had it comin'... and so does the Goddess. 🤷🏿♂️
it only sorta works for this post since the main character is quite indifferent to the conflict war for quite awhile
interestingly, the story primes you up for that reveal with a precursor villain of sorts
spoiler
Lime and his cohort are quite villainous until you learn what brought that fate upon the Rembrandt family 😐
Moghul 13 points 3 years ago
I haven't seen the movie, but in the book, absolutely fucking not. At one point he abuses two 10 year-olds and from that point there was precisely 0 empathy from me. Bad shit happened to him while incarcerated which is unfortunate, but a lot of other things that happened to him before the incarceration and after he was released were completely deserved.
Edit: To be clear, he did plenty of other bad shit, and I'm not comparing the things he did between themselves, that was just the tipping point for him becoming irredeemable to me. His age doesn't make a difference to me.
CharlesReed 10 points 3 years ago
Expanding a little on your point, I feel like a lot of people miss one of the themes of the book being "does forcing someone to be a good person by stripping them of their free will actually make them a good person?" I don't think Alex ever really regretted what he did, it's just for a short time he couldn't do it anymore. Even after they reverse his treatment, he goes and forms another gang. iirc The only reason he even thinks about stopping is because the violence isn't "fun" anymore. So yeah, not really a good guy.
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Dagwood222 7 points 3 years ago
Alex isn't a 'good guy.' He's the price you pay to liver in a free society where people are allowed to make their own choices, no matter how stupid they are.
zaphod 12 points 3 years ago
Absolutely not, unless you adhere to pure utilitarianism. Veidt kills untold numbers of innocent people on a self-imposed quest to do what he believes will save humanity. He was a straight up megalomaniac and the only upside is that his murderous actions eventually lead to peace.
FreakinSteve 9 points 3 years ago
Questionable. Depending on your attitude towards the follow-up Doomsday Clock, he is really just a megalomaniac who believes he's the good guy
VintageTech -11 points 3 years ago
Osama bin Laden
mysoulishome 3 points 3 years ago
Why the fuck did this make me laugh…now I need to downvote myself
VintageTech 1 point 3 years ago
Reviewing his career and accomplishments - the guy was a real life Michael Douglas in Falling Down... but followed through on a larger scale. And deaths, a whole lot more deaths.
mysoulishome 1 point 3 years ago
Jesus Christ… 😂
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- !lemmy411@lemmy.ca: a community for finding communities
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