Honestly, I think we need to stop worrying about console power. It's not contributing to games getting any better.
If anything, the absolutely insane graphical targets of modern games are causing fewer games being made.
Steam Deck Now Cheaper Than A Switch During Valve's Big Summer Sale
2 years ago by ylai to c/steamdeck
Honestly, I think we need to stop worrying about console power. It's not contributing to games getting any better.
If anything, the absolutely insane graphical targets of modern games are causing fewer games being made.
I do get the impression that Nintendo has consistently had worse hardware for a long time... And I appreciate it. Instead of cranking up the hardware, they make games that are fun and run on weaker hardware, often with neat stylization.
While I agree that not chasing further hardware demands is refreshing, it's also really frustrating to buy a nearly decade old tablet to play games. Many smart phones could run switch games at this point and seeing PCs emulate the switch better than the switch can run natively is exceptionally frustrating.
Those are fair points, I actually bought the switch pretty early on after seeing praise for Odyssey and BotW. I play on PC otherwise, but I enjoyed the experience, playing docked with joycons with motion controls.
I'm not personally frustrated, while the games definitely seem overpriced, I always felt like Nintendo is just sitting in their niche doing their thing, not trying to one-up others and instead providing various gimmicks with their devices. They're selling consoles and games for a certain price, and it feels like if you think the deal is bad or unfair, you can just pass on it.
I don't think I really have a point here, just saying my thoughts. I have my issues with Nintendo, but I do feel like their consoles and games provide value that is hard to get elsewhere.
Its less crazy when you remember the system is near 8 years old and the sequel system is coming out
The only thing you’ll be missing is lack of Internet features and the GUI.
You can even run the Switch UI in Suyu (or other forks of Yuzu): https://youtube.com/watch?v=rOLoVZ_br9M
And both Ryujinx, as well as Yuzu (and Forks) offer local/online multiplayer:
https://github.com/...
https://yuzu-mirror.github.io/...
Both of them offering online features is true, but as far as I'm aware, you ain't connecting to any official servers.
You can play multiplayer with emulators, just hook up multiple controllers
I use my Switch to exclusively play Smash Bros with my friends using GameCube controllers with the switch adapter.
My Switch has been having lots of issues lately though. Anyway to replicate that with the Steam Deck?
If you're playing offline with friends, Emudeck has Ryujinx available. All you'd need is to either dump your cartridge if you can (which I don't know how to do) or get a copy and make sure you got a dock to hook up your deck to the TV. I don't know what kind of port the GameCube controllers use or if they'll work, though. I don't have one, so I couldn't tell you. I know the 3rd party wired pro controller I have works fantastically, though. Only other thing you gotta worry about it having enough ports to plug in to depending on the number of players and dock you got.
As for whether the game will be as smooth on Ryujinx as it is on switch, that's something I don't know considering I've never tried it on my deck.
This reddit post leads me to believe that it is doable. I have the official Nintendo USB GameCube adapter and a Steam Deck, and I'd be happy to help you troubleshoot if needed :)
It seems like it should work great! 👍
You talk about convincing people into emulation, but can you even do that on moderated websites? I mean, helping them get ROMs without going into “wink wink nudge nudge” communication or risking Nintendo’s lawyers invading that site.
Speaking plainly, I still buy games and hardware the normal way because I don’t want that complication. It’s not worth the effort and hassle just to risk putting viruses on my computer.
I'd like to think Lemmy is still small enough that talking about piracy of their games and stuff is flying under their radar for now, which is why I don't care. Also, fuck Sintendo. I ain't afraid of their corporate stasi.
Also, on Steam Deck, Emudeck takes away the vast majority of complications regarding getting multiple emulators set up by having pre-configured configurations for each emulator you install to try and make sure game compatibility and running them is as smooth as can be for most games.
The emulators are generally easy to get. The struggle is in getting the games themselves.
Even if you’re unafraid of Nintendo’s stasi, you aren’t the one assuming risk. Takedown notices tend to go to the hosting / discussing sites, not individual users. It’s not very brave to order Lemmy hosts to battle those notices in court on your behalf.
So, anytime people say this, I’m compelled to remind them: Unlike movie depictions, malware is generally incentivized to not be apparent.
You install something, they infect, and then they do their best to ensure you don’t know that for the next few months, if ever. Meanwhile, anything as subtle as key logging or checking wifi-connected devices can give them info for some other attack.
So, I can only say I hope I don’t have a virus right now - but I don’t really know. And I’m pretty sure those pirating groups have profit incentives beyond littering their sites with ads.
"Sintendo" lol!!!
I'm gunna start using that haha.
I upgraded to the OLED model when it came out. The screen looks much nicer, has a faster refresh and longer battery life. I definitely recommend it over the original, but it is a steep price when you already have one that works fine.
You might be better off waiting for a steam deck 2, possibly out next year?
Last I heard was that the steam deck wasn't getting a version 2 update until there was next gen hardware to match it. Gaben isn't a big fan of regular sub five percent hardware refreshes that other companies are happy with.
Might be a name thing though. They did the OLED update, but it's not called the steam deck 2.
If they want Steam Deck to be a legitimate platform to target for developers - which seems to be the case and which seems to be working - they practically need to make sure they’re not refreshing it every 2-3 years with a spec bump. I’d personally be very surprised if Valve releases the next generation Steam Deck before 2026.
God, if this ends up with the steam deck 2 powering a standalone index 2 with redesigned knuckles 2 that can be used standalone as a Steam Controller 2...
It's a fantasy, absolutely. The controller part especially probably wouldn't work. But... I can dream.
If they want to keep the Deck's reputation of being able to run "most" PC games, they'll have to make a new model sooner rather than later. I'm guessing they're waiting for AMDs beefier RDNA 3.5 iGPUs. Pair that with more and faster memory and they should be good to go.
Imagine they pull a half-life on us and release a steam deck 2 decades later.
Is there a database for listing which games run on Steam Deck at what FPS and what settings?
Protondb has user reports that (usually) include performance stats and settings, as well as any additional setup like launch options or specific preferred proton versions.
I also check Valve’s own “top 100 played on steam deck” list to see what other people are rockin, always surprised to see shit like Fallout 4 on there.
Warhammer III
Thanks to Humble Monthly I have over 400 games on my Steam account.
In just the last three weeks I've played No Man's Sky, Worms WMD, Civ 6, Bravery and Greed, Darkest Dungeon, Warframe and just today LEGO 2K Drive.
And that's not counting emulation.
If you're complaining that some AAA games don't work, that's because AAA games have sucked for the past 5 or so years. Starfield, Jedi Survivor, Cyberpunk all still struggle to run nicely on even the best hardware out there. Not a problem with the Deck, but rather the state of the industry.
I'm curious about the emulation on Steam Deck. Which emulator run well enough to play daily? Can it run Switch emulator at 30fps, or specifically Mario Kart 8 Deluxe?
Wish I could buy one through official means here in Brazil 🇧🇷
The title is kinda clickbait-y, 64gb steamdeck is cheaper than oled switch and that’s about it. Standard switch is still cheaper and oled switch is cheaper than other models.
So glad I have a computer I can play games on so I don't have to mess around with a smaller computer with a smaller screen and worse performance.
Edit: I pissed off the dad caucus with this comment. Steam decks are only for dads who can't get more than thirty minutes of game time anymore and have no space for a legit gaming PC.
But what when I wanna play some games that fit perfectly for such trips?
Cult of the lamb is like perfect for such a task and many many other games.
I fucking loved playing Titanfall 2 campaign here and then while on a trip. Fucking satisfying for some reason. Some games are not really enjoyable on the trip. But a Book? Idk. Its personal preference what you want and need.
I guess I will switch to books for now, but the bit younger me didn't liked books and enjoyed it a lot to play on rides instead of at home, you know.
Well isn't that just a completely stupid hot take.
I guess I'm the only one in this thread that does other things when I've got down time away from the computer. When I want to play a video game, I don't want to play a shittier version of it.
For the kinds of games I play it's not bad at all. I still have my gaming rig for FPSes, but I end up playing metroidvanias or something most of the time.
Mostly about controls and mood.
I have a steam deck... And a gaming PC! 🤯 I plug the steam deck into my TV with a couple of controllers, and now I have a "console" with all my steam games on it that I can use to play local multiplayer games with my partner. It's also great to take when visiting family
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The best thing about a Steam Deck is the fact that with Emudeck, you can make your deck a much better Switch. The only thing you'll be missing is lack of Internet features and the GUI.
I'm also always happy to try and convince anyone and everyone not to buy from Sintendo and buy hardware that isn't inferior because I swear Sintendo hardware has absolutely been inferior compared to the competition since at at least n64.
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