Senate Republicans block Democratic bill codifying Roe v. Wade abortion protections

2 years ago by MicroWave to c/news

The legislation, which states that “protections for access to abortion rights ... should be supported," was blocked by Republicans who panned it as a "show vote."

Senate Republicans on Wednesday blocked legislation led by Democrats to revive the protections of Roe v. Wade in the wake of the Supreme Court eliminating the nationwide right to abortion.

The vote was 49-44, falling short of the super-majority needed to defeat a filibuster due to broad opposition from Republicans, who dismissed it as a political stunt.

The Reproductive Freedom for Women Act, introduced last month around the second anniversary of the court decision that overturned Roe v. Wade, is just a few sentences long. It states that “protections for access to abortion rights and other reproductive health care” after the 2022 ruling “should be supported.” It adds that “the protections enshrined in* Roe v. Wade ...* should be restored and built upon, moving towards a future where there is reproductive freedom for all.”

BigMacHole 80 points 2 years ago

But if you vote for Republicans this election they TOTALLY will Protect Abortion!

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verdantbanana -113 points 2 years ago

But if you vote for Democrats this election they TOTALLY will Protect Abortion!

just look at how the last 51 years turned out voting for either of these two corporate bought parties

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octopus_ink 97 points 2 years ago

Yep, the party actively destroying reproductive rights is indistinguishable from the party doing a suboptimal job of protecting them from the first party. This is clearly communicated by your clever, astute word replacement.

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FlyingSquid 33 points 2 years ago

You're talking to someone who immediately switched from "don't vote for Biden" to "don't vote for Harris" the second they heard that Biden might let Harris run in his place. So yes, you're exactly right with that flowchart.

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kescusay 13 points 2 years ago

Then that person is a troll and needs to be banned.

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verdantbanana -12 points 2 years ago

never switched

his pick for a vp never sat well with me

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lobut 2 points 2 years ago
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givesomefucks -21 points 2 years ago

The only way that makes since is if you think AOC, Joe Manchin, Joe Biden, and every other politician that caucuses with the Dem party are on the same page and working for the same shit...

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octopus_ink 7 points 2 years ago

The only way that makes since is if you think AOC, Joe Manchin, Joe Biden, and every other politician that caucuses with the Dem party are on the same page and working for the same shit…

Not at all, the lack of party unity is one of the reasons they have done a suboptimal job with this and other things. Nonetheless, the flowchart is true, and you can see it over and over when any major thing happens. 100% of the time? No. Is it very often relevant to folks removed about Dems? Yes, IMO it is. But with absolute sincerity, you are welcome to disagree.

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verdantbanana -19 points 2 years ago

had half a century to codify Roe v. Wade and on that note Biden was not helpful in keeping Clarence Thomas out of the Supreme Court

Biden's political career consisted of crime bills, protecting heterosexual marriage, and being a war supporter

he only changed step in the last decade or so just to be more voteable and with Harris as a VP does not show much change

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ImADifferentBird 21 points 2 years ago

My dude, I'm sitting here in Kansas, and I've watched our Democrat governor save our asses over and over from all kinds of insane bullshit that comes out of our Republican legislature. Certainly, the Dems could do more, but to say they're exactly the same on the abortion issue, or on many other issues, is to deny reality.

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BigMacHole 18 points 2 years ago

Correct! Look at all those BLUE STATES outlawing Women's Healthcare!

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tiefling 6 points 2 years ago

So you suggest allowing the orange turd in instead? That will SURELY protect abortion.

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Xanis 6 points 2 years ago

I swear. Around a year before every major election period the idiots spend a few months relearning how to spell check and type. We then get the same poorly considered, and poorly worded, series of blatantly Republican drivel that attempts, and fails, to explain why they're the better side.

Your side is evil. It wasn't always, it is now. One side attempts to do good, the other tries like hell to destroy good things. One is walking a marathon, the other is driving in the wrong direction in a suped up and raised truck billowing black smoke while flying a confederate and maga flag, adding up points as they run over people, with the radio turned up to America, Fuck Yeah by the D.V.D.A., with a picture of their sister in a bikini taped to the dashboard.

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jumjummy 1 point 2 years ago

Russian troll. Go plant sunflowers!

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unmagical 79 points 2 years ago

Ah the old "political stunt" excuse thrown around EVERY TIME a politician does their job and engages in politics.

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deaf_fish 21 points 2 years ago

Everything is political. Likewise Everything is a political stunt.

Political stunts that remove the right to have an abortion are bad stunts. Political stunts that give the right to have an abortion are good stunts.

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Asafum 18 points 2 years ago

They get to have both arguments...

"If roe was so important then Congress should make a law."

"You're just making a law for show, so no you can't have it."

They're all fucking scumbags.

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nondescripthandle 0 points 2 years ago

To be fair, I remember a few short years ago Pelosi not letting minimum wage be voted on the floor because since she thought there was no way it would pass it was nothing more than a stunt and it would hurt the movement because people will get tired of voting for it. Why doesn't that apply here or why was she lying to us then?

Democrats are spineless when it comes to things that may impact rich people even slightly and we're just lucky no one found a way to make billions off of making abortion illegal.

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unmagical 2 points 2 years ago

Everything's political, especially on the Hill. Doing or not doing something as a reaction to a "political stunt" is just a cover for not having a valid reason. People by and large want access to reproductive healthcare, just like they also by and large want access to enough money to address their needs of survival, but inevitably some politician recognizing that will result in others screaming "stunt" rather than explaining why the men in Washington get to choose what women do with their bodies and why we necessarily have to have a permanent vulnerable underclass.

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nondescripthandle 0 points 2 years ago

Sounds like when it's rich people money on the line those 'men in Washington' include top Democrats like Pelosi was.

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verdantbanana -1 points 2 years ago

now that abortion access in certain states have been limited just like with other rights that have devolved into a state's rights issue people have to have gas, food, and lodging to access extra demographic rights

a PA box which has extra costs compared to a PO box is also required to access demographic rights as well as other hidden costs

so they did find a way

not to mention fundraising for and against it makes a dick ton of money

and it is making people criminals to access these demographics rights

the megacorp prison glomerate will make a shit load as well so the dissidents can have access to basic toiletries, communication with family and friends

next four years are going to suck either way and salt on the wound is Biden's crimes bill will come back to haunt everyone combined with these latest assaults to our democracy

all adding up

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ptz 52 points 2 years ago

The vote was 49-44, falling short of the super-majority needed to defeat a filibuster

I know the filibuster has been nerfed down to sending an email that says "I filibuster this", but why don't they actually make them work for it?

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Chainweasel 35 points 2 years ago

They're too old now, they don't have the energy to stand and talk for hours so they just "declare" the filibuster and go home for tapioca and Gold Bond.

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ptz 32 points 2 years ago

All the more reason to make them work for it. If they can't stand on and defend their principles, then they need to get out of the way and at least let things come up for a vote.

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snooggums 21 points 2 years ago

The filibuster should also require the person to stay on topic, so no reading "Green eggs and ham" to run out the clock unless the book is relevant to the legislation.

Or better yet, just ditch it because requiring a majority of two chambers and the presidents signature (or overwhelming support in both chambers) is a high enough bar to meet already.

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ptz 3 points 2 years ago

Agreed!

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ExhaleSmile 11 points 2 years ago

Too old to do their job? American politicians?

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Ranvier 23 points 2 years ago

The reasoning was that in the old style of filibuster no other senate business was possible. In theory was supposed to help the senate be more productive. In practice, it's made the filibuster even more powerful. If a party was holding up all legislation and other functions of the senate by grandstanding for something stupid, that could hurt them politically, especially if it got bad enough that the military was being impacted or there were government shutdowns. So maybe they would think twice if it was worth a filibuster. Now they can kind of do it risk free. I think if you saw, government shutdown caused by Republicans trying to prevent abortion protections, well it'd be pretty unpopular with most Americans. And they'd pay for it in the polls. Or maybe not even do the filibuster in the first place.

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ptz 10 points 2 years ago

That makes sense. Absolutely awful reasoning, but it makes sense.

Thanks!

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Reverendender 15 points 2 years ago

Or, you know, fucking get rid of it

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ptz 9 points 2 years ago

Damn you, Joe Manchin.

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FlyingSquid 5 points 2 years ago

Congress? Work?

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ptz 2 points 2 years ago

The ultimate oxymoron. I should have realized I answered my own question already lol.

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givesomefucks -9 points 2 years ago

They can do away with it by a simple majority vote, but republicans won't when they have 50 because they use it all the time...

And when Dems have 50 they won't because that's moderates best excuse for never fucking doing anything.

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verdantbanana -12 points 2 years ago

why would they do anything?

they would not have anything to campaign on which includes donations

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Zeke 33 points 2 years ago

And this right here is why nothing is getting done. Go vote and not just every 4 years, but in midterms too.

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ImADifferentBird 30 points 2 years ago

The vote was 49-44, falling short of the super-majority needed to defeat a filibuster

Another reason they should have ditched the filibuster when they had a chance.

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Pacattack57 4 points 2 years ago

My question is why were 7 votes missing?

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Maggoty 2 points 2 years ago

At 49 it fell short of the normal threshold too.

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homura1650 4 points 2 years ago

Not quite. You need a quorum of senators present, and more affirmative votes than negative.

Having said that, if this actually was a viable vote with 49 senators supporting, you would probably see more vote. Although, I suspect there are at least a few senate Republicans who would at least abstain to let it pass.

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18_24_61_b_17_17_4 28 points 2 years ago

Never ends with these pieces of shit.

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Freefall 19 points 2 years ago

It would be neat if they got a number of votes based on their population...

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BossDj 8 points 2 years ago

That's what the house of representatives... represents.

Though California should be something like 3 states by now.

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macaro 19 points 2 years ago

If all states were represented like Wyoming is, there would be 573 reps, not 435.

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BossDj 6 points 2 years ago

I agree. The presumption is that us City folk wouldn't properly protect rural interest. Which is fair. But doesn't mean they deserve equal power

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nondescripthandle 15 points 2 years ago

Rural people dont protect city interest either. Doesn't seem like an excuse to have one person worth more than another. We all have to live here.

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Nougat 2 points 2 years ago

Senate.

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BossDj 4 points 2 years ago

In the Senate (where this vote happened), every state gets two people regardless of population.

House of reps you get a number of reps based on population

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Nougat 7 points 2 years ago

Yeah, that's the point. This was blocked by Senate Republicans, you know, where the votes do not align with population.

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Steve 3 points 2 years ago

My first reaction was "Why wasn't this done when the decision was first leaked? Why wait 2 years?"

The Reproductive Freedom for Women Act [...] is just a few sentences long. It states that “protections for access to abortion rights and other reproductive health care” [...] “should be supported.” It adds that “the protections enshrined in Roe v. Wade ... should be restored and built upon, moving towards a future where there is reproductive freedom for all.”

That's not the language of writing laws. It's completely vague and unenforceable. It really is just a political stunt for an election year.

Why is it so hard to make a real law to actually do this!?

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Blackbeard 34 points 2 years ago

.

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Steve 8 points 2 years ago

Well, that makes me feel a little better.

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Blackbeard 9 points 2 years ago

.

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Fedizen -1 points 2 years ago

voting on things is a "stunt", sure. We can now cut aside the rhetorical crap and squarely know who is willing to shoot it down.

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