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Diplomjodler3 57 points 2 years ago

I would like to put it on the record that I'm 100% not MAGA. Not today. Not ever. Also, go fuck yourself.

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Hextubewontallowme 1 point 2 years ago

Gladly I will, I should delete this post...

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FunderPants 48 points 2 years ago

No, I'm not.

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Hextubewontallowme -29 points 2 years ago

Oh ogey...

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ninjabard 39 points 2 years ago

I'm not condoning what was done. It truly is awful what happened. However, you spout hateful, phobic, misogynistic, ableist rhetoric since the 2016 campaign? Maybe don't be surprised.

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Rivalarrival 5 points 2 years ago

However, you spout hateful, phobic, misogynistic, ableist rhetoric since the 2016 campaign?

2016? Motherfucker has been spouting hate as far back as we are willing to judge people for spouting hate.

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Hextubewontallowme -33 points 2 years ago

Fine, I guess the chicken came to roost πŸ˜”

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vga -35 points 2 years ago

Is this victim blaming?

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gdog05 18 points 2 years ago

No this is the find out stage.

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Rivalarrival 17 points 2 years ago

No, this is Patrick.

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Reddfugee42 2 points 2 years ago

Lol oh honey

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Reawake9179 2 points 2 years ago

Yes, but unironically

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scrubbles 33 points 2 years ago

No. We may all be Americans, but MAGA is an alt-right hateful term, and I will never align myself with that.

We can align as Americans and condemn violence, but that means condemning all violence.

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Swarfega 13 points 2 years ago

I'm not American

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Cowbee 7 points 2 years ago

Genuinely, if Trump is a genuine risk to democracy and risks increasing support to Israel, why must he be defeated in a vote? Like, if he becomes Hitler 2 and erases democracy and ups the genocide, is that okay with you because he won the vote?

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Hextubewontallowme -8 points 2 years ago

No. We may all be Americans, but MAGA is an alt-right hateful term, and I will never align myself with that.

We can align as Americans and condemn violence, but that means condemning all violence.

/ seriously Well, have ye heard of the term "chickens coming home to roost"? I think that's what Trump had coming for him, I guess...

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BluJay320 33 points 2 years ago

No the fuck we aren’t.

Go fuck yourself.

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Hextubewontallowme 1 point 2 years ago

Yes the right response...

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Renacles 28 points 2 years ago

Sir, this is a meme community.

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YeetPics 0 points 2 years ago

This community is a meme

FTFY

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Hextubewontallowme -30 points 2 years ago

Wdym... civility demands this, so?

😭 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

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HikingVet 27 points 2 years ago

Get fucked with a barrel cactus.

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Etterra 5 points 2 years ago

With a saguaro; that way she can get a twofer.

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Hextubewontallowme 1 point 2 years ago

That's something....

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jinarched 24 points 2 years ago

I condemn such political violence, but I wouldn't have shed a single tear for Trump.

Fuck MAGA. Fuck Trump.

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Cowbee 8 points 2 years ago

Why condemn it? Violence is an unfortunate tool, but a tool nontheless, and abandoning it when oppressors use it without care just means you aren't taking things seriously. Hitler should have been assassinated.

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JayDee 5 points 2 years ago

By weighing all violence as immoral you are not ruling it out completely. You make it a last-resort, where you avoid one great injustice with a lesser injustice - a lesser injustice which you still face consequences for.

The alternative is morally sanctifying some murders, which leads to 'morally justified' murders being done by all political sides (since they each view themselves as 'the moral ones'), and which eventually gets twisted into the party in power murdering their opponents with impunity because it's 'morally justified'.

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Cowbee 5 points 2 years ago

Moralism itself is just a tool to justify the status quo. Nothing is inherently good by maintaining "civility," especially if violence is the status quo.

Shooting Nazis is good. Shooting Gazans is bad. Violence is a tool, but not always the correct one, nor is it never correct.

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JayDee 4 points 2 years ago

I think that is a misreading of why moral codes come into being, and I am not trying to preach moralism.

Moral codes are not universal truths, but instead rules of engagement for maintaining order within a system, and they exist within every social scope, though their level of detail tends to decay as the scope becomes more interpersonal. They're not really a tool of the state, but instead just a human tool. The state just codifies its own and disseminates it into the social collectives it rules.

My statement above is a moral observation about political morality within the US, and which I view is generally a useful rule within any democratic political system (I am referring to systems which have a structure and voting system associated with democratic processes, not necessarily ideal or actual democracies).

I am also not saying that this moral code is necessarily good for us or the system itself at any given moment, but stating why this moral code exists in the first place, and why anyone who is apart of our system and wants that system to survive (whether that be for avoiding personal turmoil or political ideology) will continue to condemn assassination attempts from any side.

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BluJay320 4 points 2 years ago

I do not.

Fuck MAGA, Try again on Trump.

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TehBamski 23 points 2 years ago

You don't have to be a MAGA worshiper to be a decent human being that doesn't want someone to be killed by a random person, because of their beliefs or talking points. That being said... I want to hear that Trump died in a federal prison of natural causes.

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skeezix 12 points 2 years ago

Maga worshippers tend to be the exact opposite of decent human beings.

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TehBamski 5 points 2 years ago

I was playing along with OP's narrative.

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Hextubewontallowme -8 points 2 years ago

Amen...

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TehBamski 4 points 2 years ago

Troll gonna troll.

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StoneGender 6 points 2 years ago

So you think Hitler didn't deserve to die? That all the Nazi officers america brought here and gave government positions were deserving.

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Crackhappy 3 points 2 years ago

Godwin

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FunderPants 5 points 2 years ago

Godwin thinks Trump Hitler comparisons are totally fair because Trump is a fascist looking to install a fascist regime in America. It's a good read.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/...

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Crackhappy 2 points 2 years ago

That's cool, thank you for sending that!

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Rivalarrival 3 points 2 years ago

Regardless of what causes it or where he happens to be when it happens, I'm looking forward to his funeral.

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Cowbee 3 points 2 years ago

Nah, violence is a tool, and if someone poses a genuine threat to democracy and can up the genocide, it's understandable that people would try to stop them. If they get democratically elected and then commit a bunch of genocide, them getting popped is a consequence.

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lolcatnip 3 points 2 years ago

I'm fact you have to not be a MAGA worshipper to be a decent human being. It's a hateful ideology exclusively for hateful people.

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IchNichtenLichten 22 points 2 years ago

I’ve seen the author on political shows in the UK. She’s the worst kind of right wing hack and her opinions are worthless.

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Hextubewontallowme 1 point 2 years ago

Oh you've noticed, nice!

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theywilleatthestars 21 points 2 years ago

I will treat this with all the solemnity that Trump would if it was one of his political opponents

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Hextubewontallowme -14 points 2 years ago

Indeed...

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db2 17 points 2 years ago

No.

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apfelwoiSchoppen 16 points 2 years ago

Gross. Absolutely gross.

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theilleist 13 points 2 years ago

No.

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Hextubewontallowme 1 point 2 years ago

NGL, don't disagree

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SatansMaggotyCumFart 6 points 2 years ago

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Hextubewontallowme -7 points 2 years ago

Lmao, indeed!

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supertrucker 0 points 2 years ago

I'm not MAGA, but anyone that supports assasination as a tool of politics is a traitor to the constitution and a terrorist against the people and should be dealt with accordingly

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Cowbee 6 points 2 years ago

Would you kill Hitler?

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supertrucker 2 points 2 years ago

It wouldn't have mattered if you kill Hitler. Someone else would have risen up and taken power, eventually kicking off WW2. The conditions in early 1930s Germany were too ripe not to have a demagogue take total power there. If you wanted to prevent those events from happening, you prevent the great depression, not kill some leader of a nation

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Cowbee 3 points 2 years ago

True, someone else would have taken his place, but not immediately. If you can't prevent the depression, you have to struggle on the ground.

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BluJay320 6 points 2 years ago

Killing a traitor isn’t traitorous.

And even if it was, fuck the US. I’d gladly betray the nation for the sake of its people.

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