cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/41907712
Lexar unveils the world's first SD cards made of 316 stainless steel
2 years ago by schizoidman to c/technology
cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/41907712
Yes, stainless is "bad", compared to other metals. But like you also mentioned, it's loads better than plastic.
I'd doubt they make an aluminum one, it's probably not worth the tooling.
When dealing with only 100-200mW, even a small change in thermal conductivity will make a big difference.
One day the card will be conductive enough for us to complain it's hot when we take it out
Elemental silver SD card casing for maximum thermal transfer, when????
What an age we live in
Seriously, my plastic cookware is terrible
But there's no better way to make a really traditional dioxin omelette.
doesn't metal manufacturing use quite a lot more energy?
"Honey, I accidently digested our SD card again"
True enough. Though I wonder, as a thought experiment, what would be the actual better option in the long run. Some type of resin maybe?
Good thing heavy metal toxicity isn't a problem.
probably, but then i can ingest less micro plastics. Which is probably good.
You're not supposed to eat them.
at least its not a single use product, the packaging it comes in is probably a worse contributor
But what about ingesting micrometals
People will pay more money for premium.
But yeah environmentally this is a damn good idea. We should make everything out of metal.
Maybe extreme weather conditions for trail cams? That's the only reason I would think about using one but never actually buy one for lol.
Seriously. Let’s light a fire under this trend. I will spend twice as much on a thing if it’s metal instead of plastic.
“All right team this is the single most dropped item in the history of mankind we need to make this thing tough what are we gonna manufacture the backing out of?”
“Glass?”
“…….Brilliant!! You’ve got upper management written all over you, Jacobs!”
True wireless charging would definitely, the kind where your phone being in the mere vicinity of the "base station" allows it to start charging. From an actual distance larger than a handful of centimeters. That would be a feature worthy of the sacrifice of a metal body and being stuck with glass
The "Wireless" charging marketing gimmick is just as bad as the "Hoverboard" gimmick vs a real Hoverboard a la Back to the Future.
Its basically just a plug shifted from a socket to the back of the phone, but worse. It's almost always slower and saves a second or 2 at most from having to plug/unplug it. Some minor pros, but not worth having to be saddled with annoying and fragile glass backs. You still need to take it out of your pocket, place it in a designated spot, and can't use it all that well while in the designated spot and still have it charge.
It's a gimmick so companies could say their phones totally have wireless charging so they didn't have to spend the R&D money to develop actual wireless charging and you bought into it hook, line and sinker.
There were some promising developments on real wireless charging, but ever since the fake gimmick caught hold it's been awfully quiet. Another victim of marketing I suppose.
I know it's counter to what the thread is saying but I really miss plastic phones. They allowed for wireless charging and don't shatter so easily. Lumias had amazing designs and were built like a brick.
In a sustainable world, energy can and should be cheaper than raw materials. We are only harvesting a tiny fraction of the solar energy hitting the earth, to say nothing of wind and geothermal power. Rolling out more renewables and energy storage and using some of the surplus power to switch from extracting new resources to recycling our waste would greatly lower our footprint.
Is anyone going to bother recycling the one gram of metal in this card though?
Energy needs can be met and shouldn't be an argument for using plastic.
The pollution could be more dependending on how you look at that statement, but making something without plastic results in less plastic pollution and you can't claim that to be an overall loss for the earth.
You can swap out centralized energy sources (relatively speaking) overnight as greener sources become cheaper/more available compared to retooling whole industries away from plastic
It's the same thing with electric cars, yea it might plug in now to a dirty energy source, but that energy source could be a green energy source tomorrow without you ever knowing and importantly not having to buy a new car or change any other infrastructure to take advantage of it
A power line is a power line, it doesn't care if the electricity going through it was derived from a dirty power plant or solar or nuclear
I respect the sentiment, but is the amount of plastic in an SD card really that significant? There's probably more in just the packaging alone.
This is more like taking the first step, getting distracted by a cool bug, finding an interesting stick, and going home to show Mum your cool stick.
An SD card lasts for years, and the amount of plastic in one is negligible. It's just not an issue.
An SD card lasts for years, and the amount of plastic in one is negligible. It’s just not an issue.
Hark! The ghosts of countless generations of short-sighted polluters cry out in complacent, rationalizing unison!
It's not about expecting one model of memory card to save the Earth. It's about moving away from needless production of toxic materials, everywhere.
And if you don't care, nobody's going to force you to read The Lorax, but please don't go around shitting on people's appreciation for even the small things.
What good is a stainless SD card
Better thermal conductivity and in turn dissipation than plastic does tend to longer lasting flash chips, how much this change means in real world practice though remains to be seen
Heat is a flash storage killer of all kinds
Well considering that most of the SD cards I've had always died from foul play or physical destruction of some kind I think that armoring them is not without merit.
Obviously like all solid state media they do wear out over time, and their wear leveling isn't as good as an SSD which has a much more sophisticated controller with much more sophisticated wear leveling management.
All the comments are fun and games but they could've used aluminium which is way cheaper. It's nothing more than a marketing gimmick.
Was about to say
to my knowledge, the only place they use aluminum as a conductor is in overhead external transmission lines, because you can wrap them around a steel or fiberglass/carbon fiber core (due to the skin effect this incurs minimal losses) while increasing strength and reducing weight (with the composites at least)
the secondary reason is because you can just use more aluminum, since it's not nearly as dense as copper, and also allows you to string farther, since again, not nearly as dense.
most aluminum wiring is actually cladded in copper, it's called CCA for what should be fairly obvious reasons.
Also i believe the oxide coating of aluminum isn't conductive? The bare material itself is, but once it oxidizes it's probably not a good conductor, this is why we use shit like gold plated contacts. Copper also oxidizes as well, but it's not nearly as bad.
Aluminium is a better conductor than copper by weight, but not cross sectional area. It's used in aerial conductors because the weight is more important than the diameter. And it's cheaper.
it’s called CCA for what should be fairly obvious reasons.
CCA Ethernet cables are literally the worst. The wires are much more brittle so it's much easier to break the cable just by bending it a little bit, and since the resistance is significantly higher, they can't go as far as regular pure copper cables, and you can't use them for Power over Ethernet (they'll overheat).
People buy them to save money since they can be a lot cheaper, but often end up having to re-run a lot of the cables in the future. Better to just buy the high quality cables from the beginning. "Buy once, cry once" as the saying goes.
Sure, aluminum as the sole conductor is rare, but as you said, there is CCA, which is ridiculously common. CCA is mostly aluminum to save cost but is still 60ish% as conductive as copper.
Aluminium corrodes, and is a relatively soft metal.
Also a good way to wear down your SD port if you remove this with any regularity.
Money whale hunting.
https://www.canadiantire.ca/...
Wish crafts made a comeback.
Doesn't the steam deck use micro SD cards, I don't think that these full-sized ones are going to be much help for those guys. Unless of course they come out with stainless steel micro SD cards but that doesn't seem likely for obvious reasons.
I guess if they made the chips small enough that the MicroSD body is just a shell, same thing happened with full sized SD cards (there was a time the whole space inside them was used, now it's usually a small part of the front and the rest is just the body shape for compatibility).
Maybe you can just trim them!
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Unironically a good idea. I can see these really helping to increase the chances of memory survival in camera applications where the camera has a high chance of being physically destroyed. Also a metal body reallllly helps conduct heat out of the flash, which will increase their lifespan in continuous-write applications.
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