Lexar unveils the world's first SD cards made of 316 stainless steel

2 years ago by schizoidman to c/technology

empireOfLove2 121 points 2 years ago

Unironically a good idea. I can see these really helping to increase the chances of memory survival in camera applications where the camera has a high chance of being physically destroyed. Also a metal body reallllly helps conduct heat out of the flash, which will increase their lifespan in continuous-write applications.

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Voyajer 60 points 2 years ago

Stainless is extra bad at conducting heat considering it's a metal, but it's still way better than plastic. I hope they make an aluminum version at some point.

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empireOfLove2 49 points 2 years ago

Yes, stainless is "bad", compared to other metals. But like you also mentioned, it's loads better than plastic.

I'd doubt they make an aluminum one, it's probably not worth the tooling.

When dealing with only 100-200mW, even a small change in thermal conductivity will make a big difference.

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Linkerbaan 11 points 2 years ago

One day the card will be conductive enough for us to complain it's hot when we take it out

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empireOfLove2 4 points 2 years ago

Elemental silver SD card casing for maximum thermal transfer, when????

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Reverendender 1 point 2 years ago

What an age we live in

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Reverendender 10 points 2 years ago

Seriously, my plastic cookware is terrible

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rob_t_firefly 7 points 2 years ago

But there's no better way to make a really traditional dioxin omelette.

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Wooki -6 points 2 years ago

How strong is aluminium compared to steel again? Oh right, its butter...

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Mandy 106 points 2 years ago
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dadarobot 36 points 2 years ago

Personally, id choose them over plastic ones if not just to save plastic

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FiskFisk33 15 points 2 years ago

doesn't metal manufacturing use quite a lot more energy?

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Strykker 39 points 2 years ago

But it has the benefit of not breaking down into micro plastics and getting into every part of everyone.

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wreckedcarzz 6 points 2 years ago

"Honey, I accidently digested our SD card again"

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FiskFisk33 3 points 2 years ago

True enough. Though I wonder, as a thought experiment, what would be the actual better option in the long run. Some type of resin maybe?

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TheObviousSolution -1 points 2 years ago

Good thing heavy metal toxicity isn't a problem.

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KillingTimeItself 3 points 2 years ago

probably, but then i can ingest less micro plastics. Which is probably good.

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Ilovethebomb 3 points 2 years ago

You're not supposed to eat them.

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FiskFisk33 2 points 2 years ago

at least its not a single use product, the packaging it comes in is probably a worse contributor

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rickyrigatoni 2 points 2 years ago

But what about ingesting micrometals

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linearchaos 18 points 2 years ago

People will pay more money for premium.

But yeah environmentally this is a damn good idea. We should make everything out of metal.

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Mandy 6 points 2 years ago
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11111one11111 18 points 2 years ago

Maybe extreme weather conditions for trail cams? That's the only reason I would think about using one but never actually buy one for lol.

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bitfucker 6 points 2 years ago

ROG Ally

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mriormro 12 points 2 years ago

Cause it's metal.

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bert 12 points 2 years ago

\m/

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mox 79 points 2 years ago

Less plastic being manufactured? Sounds good to me. :)

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Reverendender 42 points 2 years ago

Seriously. Let’s light a fire under this trend. I will spend twice as much on a thing if it’s metal instead of plastic.

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cm0002 11 points 2 years ago

While we're at it, let's get back to all metal phones! Screw this glass back shit.

For the "Wireless" charging people:

It's a gimmick, nothing of value is lost

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Reverendender 16 points 2 years ago

“All right team this is the single most dropped item in the history of mankind we need to make this thing tough what are we gonna manufacture the backing out of?”

“Glass?”

“…….Brilliant!! You’ve got upper management written all over you, Jacobs!”

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glimse 14 points 2 years ago

Wireless charging rocks, dude

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cm0002 -13 points 2 years ago

True wireless charging would definitely, the kind where your phone being in the mere vicinity of the "base station" allows it to start charging. From an actual distance larger than a handful of centimeters. That would be a feature worthy of the sacrifice of a metal body and being stuck with glass

The "Wireless" charging marketing gimmick is just as bad as the "Hoverboard" gimmick vs a real Hoverboard a la Back to the Future.

Its basically just a plug shifted from a socket to the back of the phone, but worse. It's almost always slower and saves a second or 2 at most from having to plug/unplug it. Some minor pros, but not worth having to be saddled with annoying and fragile glass backs. You still need to take it out of your pocket, place it in a designated spot, and can't use it all that well while in the designated spot and still have it charge.

It's a gimmick so companies could say their phones totally have wireless charging so they didn't have to spend the R&D money to develop actual wireless charging and you bought into it hook, line and sinker.

There were some promising developments on real wireless charging, but ever since the fake gimmick caught hold it's been awfully quiet. Another victim of marketing I suppose.

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pycorax 2 points 2 years ago

I know it's counter to what the thread is saying but I really miss plastic phones. They allowed for wireless charging and don't shatter so easily. Lumias had amazing designs and were built like a brick.

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bluGill 18 points 2 years ago

Likely far more energy and pollution needed to manufacture this though so overall a loss for the earth.

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deegeese 17 points 2 years ago

But most steel is recycled and most plastic is not.

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bluGill 11 points 2 years ago

You still need a lot of energy to recycle steel. Less than mining by far but still a lot.

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AllNewTypeFace 15 points 2 years ago

In a sustainable world, energy can and should be cheaper than raw materials. We are only harvesting a tiny fraction of the solar energy hitting the earth, to say nothing of wind and geothermal power. Rolling out more renewables and energy storage and using some of the surplus power to switch from extracting new resources to recycling our waste would greatly lower our footprint.

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deegeese 13 points 2 years ago

But compared to plastic from virgin fossil fuels?

We as a society are going to need memory cards.

What do you think they should be made out of?

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Ilovethebomb 1 point 2 years ago

Is anyone going to bother recycling the one gram of metal in this card though?

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Luvs2Spuj 12 points 2 years ago

Energy needs can be met and shouldn't be an argument for using plastic.

The pollution could be more dependending on how you look at that statement, but making something without plastic results in less plastic pollution and you can't claim that to be an overall loss for the earth.

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cm0002 9 points 2 years ago

You can swap out centralized energy sources (relatively speaking) overnight as greener sources become cheaper/more available compared to retooling whole industries away from plastic

It's the same thing with electric cars, yea it might plug in now to a dirty energy source, but that energy source could be a green energy source tomorrow without you ever knowing and importantly not having to buy a new car or change any other infrastructure to take advantage of it

A power line is a power line, it doesn't care if the electricity going through it was derived from a dirty power plant or solar or nuclear

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Ilovethebomb 5 points 2 years ago

I respect the sentiment, but is the amount of plastic in an SD card really that significant? There's probably more in just the packaging alone.

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mox 10 points 2 years ago

A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.

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Ilovethebomb -2 points 2 years ago

This is more like taking the first step, getting distracted by a cool bug, finding an interesting stick, and going home to show Mum your cool stick.

An SD card lasts for years, and the amount of plastic in one is negligible. It's just not an issue.

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mox 8 points 2 years ago

An SD card lasts for years, and the amount of plastic in one is negligible. It’s just not an issue.

Hark! The ghosts of countless generations of short-sighted polluters cry out in complacent, rationalizing unison!

It's not about expecting one model of memory card to save the Earth. It's about moving away from needless production of toxic materials, everywhere.

And if you don't care, nobody's going to force you to read The Lorax, but please don't go around shitting on people's appreciation for even the small things.

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dadarobot 7 points 2 years ago

Any reduction in plastic is a good thing.

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spyd3r 56 points 2 years ago

Should have used glorious Nippon steel, folded over 1000 times.

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bfg9k 19 points 2 years ago

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Etterra 4 points 2 years ago

Easy there Weeby McWeebson.

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sploosh 55 points 2 years ago

I feel like dealing with SD cards' inevitable demise is more important than armoring them. What good is a stainless SD card that no longer functions after 2 years of use?

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cm0002 49 points 2 years ago

What good is a stainless SD card

Better thermal conductivity and in turn dissipation than plastic does tend to longer lasting flash chips, how much this change means in real world practice though remains to be seen

Heat is a flash storage killer of all kinds

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sploosh 24 points 2 years ago

It's hard to believe that it would have taken 25 years for the many SD card builders out there to figure out that a heat spreader could solve the degradation problems.

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Assman 34 points 2 years ago

Why would they want to solve an issue that causes you to need a new product from them

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Draconic_NEO 2 points 2 years ago

Well considering that most of the SD cards I've had always died from foul play or physical destruction of some kind I think that armoring them is not without merit.

Obviously like all solid state media they do wear out over time, and their wear leveling isn't as good as an SSD which has a much more sophisticated controller with much more sophisticated wear leveling management.

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MightyCuriosity 35 points 2 years ago

All the comments are fun and games but they could've used aluminium which is way cheaper. It's nothing more than a marketing gimmick.

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Sir_Simon_Spamalot 4 points 2 years ago

Was about to say

  • cheaper
  • lighter
  • non-conductive
  • softer, won't wear the port
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Zeoic 19 points 2 years ago

How is aluminum non-conductive? It's literally used as a lighter and cheaper alternative to copper in wires

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KillingTimeItself 2 points 2 years ago

to my knowledge, the only place they use aluminum as a conductor is in overhead external transmission lines, because you can wrap them around a steel or fiberglass/carbon fiber core (due to the skin effect this incurs minimal losses) while increasing strength and reducing weight (with the composites at least)

the secondary reason is because you can just use more aluminum, since it's not nearly as dense as copper, and also allows you to string farther, since again, not nearly as dense.

most aluminum wiring is actually cladded in copper, it's called CCA for what should be fairly obvious reasons.

Also i believe the oxide coating of aluminum isn't conductive? The bare material itself is, but once it oxidizes it's probably not a good conductor, this is why we use shit like gold plated contacts. Copper also oxidizes as well, but it's not nearly as bad.

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Ilovethebomb 7 points 2 years ago

Aluminium is a better conductor than copper by weight, but not cross sectional area. It's used in aerial conductors because the weight is more important than the diameter. And it's cheaper.

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dan 3 points 2 years ago

it’s called CCA for what should be fairly obvious reasons.

CCA Ethernet cables are literally the worst. The wires are much more brittle so it's much easier to break the cable just by bending it a little bit, and since the resistance is significantly higher, they can't go as far as regular pure copper cables, and you can't use them for Power over Ethernet (they'll overheat).

People buy them to save money since they can be a lot cheaper, but often end up having to re-run a lot of the cables in the future. Better to just buy the high quality cables from the beginning. "Buy once, cry once" as the saying goes.

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Zeoic 1 point 2 years ago

Sure, aluminum as the sole conductor is rare, but as you said, there is CCA, which is ridiculously common. CCA is mostly aluminum to save cost but is still 60ish% as conductive as copper.

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Ilovethebomb 2 points 2 years ago

Aluminium corrodes, and is a relatively soft metal.

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mudmaniac 22 points 2 years ago

Isn't there a danger of someone shorting data to voltage by inserting this thing wrongly?

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RvTV95XBeo 21 points 2 years ago

Also a good way to wear down your SD port if you remove this with any regularity.

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M0oP0o 14 points 2 years ago

Why?

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TheObviousSolution 2 points 2 years ago

Money whale hunting.

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AbsoluteChicagoDog 14 points 2 years ago
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Etterra 7 points 2 years ago

Woah boy, Elon is gonna be super jealous.

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bruhduh 6 points 2 years ago

Steam deck modders rejoice

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Draconic_NEO 1 point 2 years ago

Doesn't the steam deck use micro SD cards, I don't think that these full-sized ones are going to be much help for those guys. Unless of course they come out with stainless steel micro SD cards but that doesn't seem likely for obvious reasons.

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bruhduh 2 points 2 years ago

Everyone thought 1tb+ microsd is impossible, but here we are

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Draconic_NEO 2 points 2 years ago

I guess if they made the chips small enough that the MicroSD body is just a shell, same thing happened with full sized SD cards (there was a time the whole space inside them was used, now it's usually a small part of the front and the rest is just the body shape for compatibility).

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AnUnusualRelic 2 points 2 years ago

Maybe you can just trim them!

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Pika 2 points 2 years ago

ah yes, so you can get a card that will die before you manage to use all of it

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