The phrase "Pics or it didn't happen" is largely meaningless now that AI is a thing.

2 years ago by Hemingways_Shotgun to c/showerthoughts

Rhaedas 87 points 2 years ago

Pictures as proof have been questionable for a while if a good photoshopper creates something. It was video that was much harder. AI still isn't perfect, but a short moving clip along with AI audio can fool many people now.

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SomeGuy69 5 points 2 years ago

Especially in combination with a real videos. Like just twisting words or cutting something in between, replacing a word, changing an expression and so on.

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DoctorButts 48 points 2 years ago

Tits or gtfo still relevant

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leftzero 42 points 2 years ago

Great tits.

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hoshikarakitaridia 11 points 2 years ago

Nice tits

You can stay

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HangingFruit 7 points 2 years ago

Bobs or vagana

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Thorry84 8 points 2 years ago

Hello pretty lady bobs or vagine

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pimento64 44 points 2 years ago

Motherfuckers act like they forgot about photoshop

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Acamon 21 points 2 years ago path: 0 12469591 12470390, hotness: undefined, score: 21, children: 2
AliasVortex 7 points 2 years ago

Even further back if you think about the abominations of taxidermy that got passed off for merfolk and the like (Fiji mermaid)

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spankmonkey 2 points 2 years ago

"I saw it with my own eyes!"

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BackOnMyBS 2 points 2 years ago

if it was up to me, you'd motherfuckers stop coming to me with fabricated evidence out.

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tektite 2 points 2 years ago

Lookin up to me like training Ai is free, when my copyright was out you wasn't paying me.

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r00ty 22 points 2 years ago

Pics AND/OR it didn't happen.

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beefbot 5 points 2 years ago

Pics XOR it didn’t happen

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EmoDuck 19 points 2 years ago path: 0 12485711, hotness: undefined, score: 19, children: 0
Seraph 18 points 2 years ago

My shower thought from yesterday: you can take real photos and make people think it's AI, just use the Clone Tool poorly on the hands.

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TranquilTurbulence 12 points 2 years ago

I’ve been thinking that it would be fun to take a 100% real photo of a stack of real hands from the exact right angle that it looks like a mutated abomination generated by some stupid AI.

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LambdaRX 10 points 2 years ago

In future today's forms of identity verification, like face unlock, can become useless due to AI.

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JohnnyCanuck 11 points 2 years ago

Biometrics should be usernames, not passwords. Fingerprints, irises, faces, vocal patterns, all of it, no matter how good it is, only identifies the person trying to enter/use something and is somewhat easy to steal without their knowledge.

If you want true security you still need to ask for a passcode that only the now-identified user will know.

And yes, it is still possible to intercept the passcode at the moment that the user interacts with the locking mechanism, but that is completely different from grabbing it when they're randomly walking down the street, etc.

(Edit to add: I didn't think this needed to be explained, but I'm not saying biometrics should replace usernames, I'm saying they shouldn't have replaced passwords. And yes, you can still use biometrics in the authentication process to identify that it's you, i.e. your username, but you still need a password.)

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TranquilTurbulence 1 point 2 years ago

What if you want to have more than one account with a provider, but you have only one face?

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JohnnyCanuck 5 points 2 years ago

What if you want to have more than one account with a provider, but you have only one face?

Are you serious or are you being pedantic and trolling? That doesn't change my point, your face shouldn't be the password to both accounts. It's pretty easy to add another step for multiple accounts.

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fubbernuckin 0 points 2 years ago

Ok, but the providers will not offer such a service. I'd gladly take 2fa using biometrics and a password/passkey with my username working as it always has.

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spankmonkey 1 point 2 years ago

I have the same username at multiple websites...

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intensely_human 1 point 2 years ago

The only form of authentication that will work long term is to run a hash on the entire person.

Basically instead of authenticating that it is the same person, you authenticate that whatever is attempting access shares enough characteristics with that person to use the resource in the same way.

Like, a perfect transporter clone of me can get access to my stuff, but it’s okay because he’s got my same goals and moral constraints.

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Oka 9 points 2 years ago

Because images and video were definitive proof at one point, but even before AI, they can be altered with image software.

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Adderbox76 8 points 2 years ago

Very true. It's the immediacy of it that struck me this morning.

If I make a post telling you that I met Elvis Presley as an old man and you respond with "Pics or it didn't happen". I can literally post a reply to you within a couple of minutes (If I knew where to go) of me meeting an elderly Elvis Presley. Whereas before I'd have to put some effort into it, and then respond a day later with my finished photoshop creation. The immediacy lends it credibility in the way that traditional photo manipulation didn't.

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Oka 2 points 2 years ago

Agreed

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SplashJackson 9 points 2 years ago

Maybe, but did you here about all the topless photoshoots Scarlett Johansen has been doing? Neither have I, but I've certainly seen pictures of it, so it must have happened. Just don't look at the fingers

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PassingThrough 8 points 2 years ago

Sometimes it feels technology may doom us all in the end. We’ve got a rough patch in society starting now, now that liars and cheats can be more convincingly backed up, and honest folk hidden behind credible doubt that they are the liars.

AI isn’t just on the path to make convincing lies, it’s on the path to ensuring that all truth can be doubted as well. At which point, there is no such thing as truth until we learn yet a new way to tell the difference.

“They don’t need to convince us what they are saying, the lies, are true. Just that there is no truth, and you cannot believe anything you are told.”

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Adderbox76 3 points 2 years ago

It kind of makes me want to go live in a shack in the woods, grow a garden and live out the rest of my days growing my beard and writing increasingly more obscure poetry until it gets posthumously published after my death.

Vegetables and Trees are real at least.

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TheGiantKorean 2 points 2 years ago
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PassingThrough 2 points 2 years ago path: 0 12469297 12473392 12474601, hotness: undefined, score: 2, children: 1
TheGiantKorean 2 points 2 years ago
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Kolanaki 6 points 2 years ago

The truth is subjective now. My reality is objectively the coolest, though.

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ptz 6 points 2 years ago

Throw it on the pile of things AI has ruined lol.

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xia 6 points 2 years ago

Personally witnessed or it didn't happen.

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piecat 1 point 2 years ago

When we get brain implants to supplement memory, it's all over for us

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theilleists 1 point 2 years ago

Quantum cryptographically signed memory certificates from my designated reality broker or it didn't happen.

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qjkxbmwvz 3 points 2 years ago

I'm guessing it wouldn't work for a variety of reasons, but having cameras digitally sign the image+the metadata could be interesting.

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wolo 6 points 2 years ago

They could make it difficult to open up the camera and extract its signing key, but only one person has to do it successfully for the entire system to be unusable.

In theory you could have a central authority that keeps track of cameras that have had their keys used for known-fake images, but then you're trusting that authority not to invalidate someone's keys for doing something they disagree with, and it still wouldn't prevent someone from buying a camera, extracting its key themselves, and making fraudulent images with a fresh, trusted key.

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SplashJackson 2 points 2 years ago

Sounds like NFT talk to me, sailor

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intensely_human 1 point 2 years ago

Anything from now that people want to authenticate in the future, they can publish the hash of.

So long as people trust the fact that the hash was published now, in the future when it’s fakable they can trust that it existed before the faking capability was developed.

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unreachable 1 point 2 years ago

today: "slop or hoax"

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gencha 1 point 2 years ago

A minute ago I saw a post that was a screenshot of a tweet of a screenshot of a Chinese social media post, claiming some shit. People upvote that.

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Adderbox76 1 point 2 years ago

It's depressing.

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