I'm sorry some posts are being removed from this community. It is the actions of the Lemmy blahaj zone admins. There's nothing we can do to prevent this. I suggest changing your instance to a better one.
Update: Blahaj blocked NCD
nuke 11 points 2 years ago
Removed post https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/4336208
Removed post https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/11381339
Removed post https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/11419938
Removed post https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/16644488
Oh and instead of removing the post that violated your rules, you banned the person who submits the most content to NCD
PugJesus 40 points 2 years ago
No, but talking to the admins might've given you a better idea of why this was going down, especially considering one of the cases is an instance ban, not selective moderation.
ada 13 points 2 years ago
The first link isn't removed and the second link references Pepe. The third link is the same link as your first link
Oh and instead of removing the post that violated your rules,
Anyone that posts bigotry gets instance banned.
I have no idea about NCD. I don't use it, I have no idea who posts in it, and it doesn't come in to it. Anyone that posts bigotry gets instance banned, and your most active poster, posted bigotry.
nuke -2 points 2 years ago
The first link isn't removed
From the modlog: " Removed Post Why would the terrorists lie? 😭 reason: Violates server rule #7"
It has since been restored. Your own modlog shows its removal https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/modlog/4573?page=1&actionType=ModRemovePost
the second link references Pepe.
Is this real life?
The third link is the same link as your first link
Fixed
ada 15 points 2 years ago
reason: Violates server rule #7"
lemmy.blahaj.zone doesn't have a "server rule 7". The removal that you're referring to was made by a lemmy.world admin and has nothing to do with blahaj.zone.
Fixed
Your third link now links to the meme that got CDRMITTENS banned from lemmy.blahaj.zone. This meme breaks your own community rules, and conflates Palestinians with Hamas. It's outright bigotry
IkarusHagen2 -47 points 2 years ago path: 0 13197404 13204201, hotness: undefined, score: -47, children: 6
prettybunnys 3 points 2 years ago
I’ve been alive for 4 decades.
The genocide didn’t start last year.
It’s been my whole life.
IkarusHagen2 -3 points 2 years ago path: 0 13197404 13204201 13226322 13226588, hotness: undefined, score: -3, children: 4
prettybunnys 2 points 2 years ago
Yikes.
There has been a genocide, multiple genocides, on the Jewish people. That’s not in question here.
You pretending that there hasn’t been a genocide on the Palestinian people since before the British colonized then handed the state to become Israel is on you.
Anyways, go fuck yourself.
hemko 39 points 2 years ago
Meh, if they decide to ban a specific user from another instance because they don't like that user's content, it's fully their right to do so.
If you're devout blahaj user but love NCD, might be a good idea to create an alt for fighter porn then. Otherwise meh it is what it is.
deegeese 23 points 2 years ago
Since this sub is not hosted on Blahaj, can you please provide a list here of mod actions on Blahaj showing what you mean?
I wouldn’t expect 3rd party moderation would have much impact thanks to federation.
Catoblepas 8 points 2 years ago
Yeah, it can’t affect you at all unless you’re on blahaj.
I did a quick skim of the most recent posts as viewed on blahaj vs as on sh.itjust.works, and checking the mod log on blahaj didn’t show any of the recent posts as having been specifically removed. There’s one user that was banned like 6 months ago whose posts don’t federate to blahaj but now is a weird time to notice it.
I didn’t check super deep into the logs though so I’m curious what specific posts have been removed, if any, and if OP tried reaching out to the blahaj admins about it.
nuke -2 points 2 years ago
"if any" LMFAO
Y'all banned our top poster and remove any memes about Hamas or Hezbollah. Get out of here with this bullshit. And the whole "now is a weird time to notice", I'm sorry I don't keep tabs on every instance for you.
deegeese 24 points 2 years ago
What is the removed comment?
It’s hard to believe your side of the story when opposing comments are being deleted by a admin in NCD.
All I can see is a whole lot of drama and a month old post that might have been deleted, but nobody can show the log.
nuke -17 points 2 years ago
Are you intentionally ignoring the comment I replied to you showing a removed post?
https://sh.itjust.works/comment/14767313
Here it is again if you're having trouble, https://lemmy.world/post/19935466
The modlog is publicly available https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/modlog/4573?page=1&actionType=ModRemovePost
nuke -7 points 2 years ago
The posts removed all seem to sit along the Israel/Iran/etc conflict lines.
https://lemmy.world/post/19935466
and of course they banned CDRMITTENS the most frequent poster in this community
Catoblepas 4 points 2 years ago
Did you try checking the blahaj logs? CDRMITTENS was banned 6 months ago if that’s what you’re talking about.
originalucifer 23 points 2 years ago
always lookin for more mbin testers over at moist!
Tar_alcaran 9 points 2 years ago
I mean, you're here, soooo....
verity_kindle 9 points 2 years ago
It's too late to worry about taste and refinement.
originalucifer 2 points 2 years ago
ha, k. its a known federating platform as seen on fedidb, fediverse observer fully integrated with lemmy servers all over the place. even a cursory inspection will show were legit.
originalucifer 26 points 2 years ago
thanks! i figured the best way to keep commercial interests at bay was to make it, as i like to put it, 'comically unmarketable'
originalucifer 4 points 2 years ago
sure, done! you could also use those single-use services
starman2112 31 points 2 years ago
If I understand right, they're upset that the blahaj.zone admins blocked content from CDRMITTENS on their instance. Blahaj admins can't remove content from a community hosted on SJW, but they can prevent content posted by individual SJW users from showing up on blahaj.zone
Personally I think nuke is making a mountain out of a mole hill. Blahaj admins can do whatever they want on their instance. I don't really care whether or not I can see content posted by someone who supports the IDF. I'd actually rather not see it tbh
InEnduringGrowStrong 18 points 2 years ago
Yes, the other way around would be impossible.
Blahaj banned CDRmittens 6 months ago, which would explain the discrepency between posts as viewed from there.
Honestly, they could very well decide to just remove the community on their end if they so wished.
tal 7 points 2 years ago
I imagine that it's not too complicated to just look at the community via lemmy.blahaj.zone, which presumably will show missing posts.
NCD's native sh.itjust.works, which presumably has all posts visible:
https://sh.itjust.works/c/noncredibledefense?dataType=Post&sort=New
Lemmy.blahaj.zone's view:
https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/c/noncredibledefense@sh.itjust.works?dataType=Post&sort=New
tal 11 points 2 years ago
Nuke, you sure that it's intentional removal? I've seen propagation issues on instances before -- like, two weeks back, my home instance, lemmy.today, was two days late on material from sh.itjust.works. In that case, resolved itself shortly after I posted to my local instance discussion community about it, so the instance admin didn't dig into it, but two days of delay definitely has something breaking somewhere in lemmy or on one instance or another.
Tar_alcaran 6 points 2 years ago
like, two weeks back, my home instance, lemmy.today, was two days late on material from sh.itjust.works.
I still don't get NCD showing properly on sh.itjust.works, but I DO get new posts in my timeline, for some incomprehensible reason.
But in this case, it's in the modlogs, not a bug.
gravitas_deficiency 7 points 2 years ago
Was there some sort of beef that the blahaj admins had with sjw or ncd? I’m out of the loop here tbh
verity_kindle -2 points 2 years ago
I think a blahaj admin just went ahead and confirmed that, yes, they are the ones with the beef, about 14 hours ago, in our VERY OWN PIT OF DESPAIR AND CRUDELY DRAWN FROGS. You saw it here first. 🐸 I'm never going to financially recover from this, the day blahaj banned us.
bestboyfriendintheworld 0 points 2 years ago
Admins all over lemmy are antisemitic or anti-Zionist. I have seen users banned from lemmy.world for posting a link to the IHRA definition of antisemitism.
If you don’t toe the line of Israel = evil, but offer some nuance, the mods delete posts and ban users. Posts that are very much inside the rules.
There’s practically a nonwritten rule on politics and news communities all over lemmy, that threatens to ban anything Zionist or nuanced regarding Israel.
Of course it’s worst with the tankies from lemmy.ml, but lemmy.world is barely better.
prettybunnys 0 points 2 years ago
So uh.
This post has now violated NCDs Rule 10, right?
CaptainBasculin -9 points 2 years ago
even ml doesn't stoop that low, cringe behaviour
horse_tranquilizers -9 points 2 years ago
I like 196 but will be blocking blahaj.
Thanks @ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone ya blew it
RightHandOfIkaros -15 points 2 years ago
Yeah, I blocked the entire Blahaj instance a while ago. I cant think of a single user I have seen from that instance that isn't unsavory. Hopefully things improve soon.
starman2112 9 points 2 years ago
I blocked the entire Blahaj instance a while ago
I cant think of a single user I have seen from that instance that isn't unsavory
Can't imagine why you haven't seen any of the many chill folk from that server
RightHandOfIkaros -3 points 2 years ago
The people I interacted with from that instance before I blocked it were very not chill. Maybe the chill people joined after I blocked the instance.
RightHandOfIkaros 8 points 2 years ago
Never seen the .ml instances or hexbear?
tal 3 points 2 years ago
Of the instances federated with Lemmy.world,
Never seen the .ml instances or hexbear?
Unless something has changed recently, lemmy.world defederated from hexbear.net and lemmygrad.ml, so it's just lemmy.ml of those three that glimse@lemmy.world would have been talking about.
goes to investigate
Yeah, looks like that remains the case.
Click on the "Blocked instances" tab. I wish that lemmy had a way to link directly to that tab, as I certainly link to it a fair number of times.
skulblaka 2 points 2 years ago
While I do not have perspective on your interactions and can't speak for your experiences, blanket labeling everyone in the de facto Fediverse trans-folks instance as "unsavory" isn't really a great look. Sure, every community has assholes. But calling out this particular one with that particular word as a blanket statement is lumping you in with a lot of people you may not want to be associated with.
tal 4 points 2 years ago
Lemmy.dbzer0.com has a community aimed at highlighting this sort of thing, !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com.
I'm personally not sure that it's actually a great way to deal with unreasonable mod or admin actions -- I'd favor general technical solutions like the spider I mentioned in this thread over having "name and shame" stuff where possible, think that name-and-shame tends to generate conflict. But I suppose that it does help people who might object to such actions, like lemmy.blahaj.zone home instance users in this case, be aware that they are getting a censored view and choose communities and instances accordingly. I mean, I'd want to know myself if my own home instance admin were silently removing content on my instance.
tal 2 points 2 years ago
Yeah...what I'm thinking, though I haven't gone looking, is that the removals may extend beyond NCD content, may be affecting other users who aren't on NCD and won't see the post.
RightHandOfIkaros 1 point 2 years ago
Perhaps, but it was just in regular comments, not admin actions. Maybe I just got unlucky RNG.
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Blahaj zone admin here. There's quite a bit of confusion and misunderstanding in this thread.
No one is "selectively removing NCD content" or anything close to it.
What happened is that 6 months ago, CDRMITTENS was instance banned from lemmy.blahaj.zone over an anti Palestinian meme they posted. You can see the mod log for that here https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/modlog?postId=11419938. This meme conflated Hamas and Palestinians in general, and basically blamed Palestinians for their own genocide. Notably, the post also broke NCD rules 2 and 5, but wasn't removed by NCD mods.
As a result of CDRMITTENS being instance banned, none of their content reaches lemmy.blahaj.zone anymore. You can see that for yourself here https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/..., which shows that no content from this user has reached blahaj.zone. There was no selective removal or editing of content at play, because none of their content reached blahaj.zone to be able to selectively remove it.
tl;dr - It's just an instance ban, not selective moderation
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