Lemmings living in red states, how’re you doing?

2 years ago by St.Elsewhere@threads.net to c/asklemmy

finitebanjo 146 points 2 years ago

I don't argue with people, I slowly explain to them what Republicans lawmakers are doing. Try as hard as possible not to be conescending.

I explain how Biden and Obama are better at convicting and deporting, why Trump's cruelty is so innefficient.

I explain that Trump said he had nothing to do with project 2025 and now Matt Walsh and Fox News are explaining their plans which coincidentally align with project 2025.

I explain the Trump Tax Plan, which is identical to last time, how it raised everybody's taxes below a certain amount.

Sometimes they tell me "but that Harris was an idjet" and I explain how she wanted to bring back child tax credits and vowed to never raise taxes on anyone below 400k annual earnings. They ask "well she didnt say that during the CNN Interview or debates!" and I direct them to her website where every single policy is laid out clearly.

Many of them do not understand the ramifications of the situation they have caused. They are completely unaware of the consequences of their actions, expect life to go on as if their side just won at sports without any impact on the real world. It is easy to ignore and be ignored if thats what you want to do in a red state.

When people try to threaten me I can be very intimidating as a result of my natural physique. Fear is something I will die before showing any of these people. They respect strength, the simple fools, it can get you far in their world.

That's how I do.

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adarza 43 points 2 years ago

Trump's cruelty is so innefficient

the cruelty is the point. he "hurts the right people"

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finitebanjo 16 points 2 years ago

Rigjt but thats contradictory. They claim to want to do something about supposed "hordes of criminal illegals" but at the same time they shift resources away from them and instead detain women, the elderly, and children.

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MadBabs 18 points 2 years ago

The cognitive dissonance is also the point...

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spankmonkey 9 points 2 years ago

Try as hard as possible not to be conescending.

Feel free to be condescending, they are too stupid to understand anyway.

The only way for Dems to win was to increase turnout and they didn't pull that off. There was zero chance of peeling off Republican voters.

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JubilantJaguar 13 points 2 years ago

Terrible, no-good take. It's because of this attitude, totally ungrounded in the political science, that outside the USA we now have to put up with your bad decisions, once again.

Sorry to be so crude but this really p*sses me off. Your side is now losing in almost every single demographic group, the trend is as clear as day. If it were to follow your terrible advice (which fortunately it won't) the Democrats would be permanently out of power and the USA would become a de-facto one-party state. You can't pretend that these people don't exist or that they're subhuman. You have to sully your virtue and talk to them and find some compromises. If not for yourself then for the sake of the rest of us.

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Scubus 14 points 2 years ago

Bruh just flat out no. The reason we lost is 100% the opposite of that. The reason we lost is because biden and harris both tried to be more moderate to attract republicans. Instead of actually doing anything useful and fixing the world, they both focused on sucking off netanyahu instead of free healthcare and ubi.

They failed the base that elected them and tried to court the enemy. Courting republicans is a waste of time unless your goal is to make things worse. The only way to deal with these fucking vegetables is to treat them like theyre in the past. Ignore republican talking points. Cringe when your republican cousin talks. If you see a trump flag, stop, point and laugh.

Shame these fucks and make sure they understand that they will no longer be taken seriously. The adults are talking and MAGA has chosen to sit at the little kids table.

Fucking shun every single one of them. They no longer are part of our society

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JubilantJaguar 4 points 2 years ago

I'll try a different tack. Because after all, we seem to want the same result.

In my analysis (which, as someone who follows this pretty closely, I maintain is much better supported by the evidence than yours), I have to suck it up and talk to people I don't like and maybe even accept policies I don't like.

In yours, you get to feel great about being in the right, with no need to question any of your prejudices much less make any compromises.

If you were a neutral observer watching this conversation, who would you believe?

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spankmonkey 5 points 2 years ago

Republicans pull in a consistent number of votes every election because they have the hateful moron brigade as a consistent voting bloc. Dems win when there is higher turnout because they motivate people to show up, and lose when there is lower turnout, but they sure as shit aren't appealing to the hate brigade.

Trying to be reasonable and polite with Republicans like Liz Cheney is what took the wind out of the sails of the Harris campaign. They did the fucking appease everyone bland bullshit and lost. That is what you are saying is the right thing to do.

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JubilantJaguar 5 points 2 years ago

Your theory is just a theory, and a weak one. The evidence suggests that the election was mainly just a backlash against inflation and immigration, as has happened across the world to parties of all stripes. Not much could have been done to avert the outcome. But it is also clear that a bunch of voters were pissed off by what they perceived as Democrat excesses on cultural issues, and apparently many of those people were in swing states.

More generally: "just turn out the base" is usually a losing strategy in democratic politics. For a simple reason: the cost of turning out your own base is that you will fire up the opposing base and turn them out too. To be sure of winning an election in democracy, you will need to get your hands dirty and persuade people. In practice that will mean tacking towards the center and making compromises.

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jaggedrobotpubes 2 points 2 years ago

If anything, Democrats would do better. Trump didn't give a fuck, was a huge asshole, and won.

If Democrats were fair in their vicious scathing of what's terrible about Republican policies, and used it as a tool in telling the truth clearly, they'd do great.

Maybe once there's no nazis, civil will work.

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7U5K3N 120 points 2 years ago

Married het cis male. Wife is absolutely bent out of shape due to our states bull shit abortion ban and with Trump being in office again. We had been talking about a second kiddo... But she told me that she wanted me to get a vasectomy Monday morning at 8am. She's not leaving her life in the hands of old dudes.

So.. I'm going to schedule it for inauguration day .

Other than that.. okay. Tho.. I did buy another carry gun. ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

Edit: voted Dem all the way down ballot.

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Gullible 84 points 2 years ago

voted Dem all the way down ballot.

As if you even need to say this when you began with proper use of cis and het

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7U5K3N 35 points 2 years ago

Haha that's fair

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JubilantJaguar -21 points 2 years ago

Contrarian take: being so ostentatious in the "proper" use of such terms is one reason that Democrats just lost and that the rest of us outside America will now have to suck up yet more of Trump.

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JackbyDev 18 points 2 years ago

As if people stopped saying cis het would somehow reduce bigotry.

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JubilantJaguar -12 points 2 years ago

It is impenetrable jargon. Inadvertently or otherwise, it is being used by the enlightened few as a stick with which to beat the (supposed) ignorant bigoted masses. A lot of people find this deeply annoying and objectionable. Addendum: To be clear, that includes me and I am not "cis het".

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EvacuateSoul 3 points 2 years ago

Is that you, Sam Harris?

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surewhynotlem 1 point 2 years ago

"Ostentatious"? Must be a Democrat.

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CaptDust 31 points 2 years ago

Ah man, I should buy a gun.

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7U5K3N 40 points 2 years ago

Go far enough left... You get your guns back.

Liberal gun owners sub on reddit used to be decent.

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CaptDust 21 points 2 years ago

I've never been against self defense personally, but never felt I needed one previously.

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AngryCommieKender 3 points 2 years ago

Crossbows come equipped with Hollywood style "silencers."

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ChillPenguin 6 points 2 years ago

Literally just bought a gun safe. Plan on getting a shotgun in the next month for black Friday. Gotta protect yourself.

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MossyFeathers 3 points 2 years ago

I've been eyeing a DP12. Probably complete overkill but at the same time, if someone comes knocking down my door then I want to be able to erase them with extreme prejudice if I have to.

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SupraMario 3 points 2 years ago

Do not buy that thing. It's utter junk. If you are wanting a home defense rifle build an AR pistol.

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MossyFeathers 1 point 2 years ago

Aside from being a bullpup and the clumsiness of trying to load two independent tube mags, what's wrong with it? I'm not expecting to storm a fortified position; I'm only expecting to use it for self-defense and I highly doubt I'd need to go through both mags in such a situation (if so then I'd probably be fucked either way) so reloading shouldn't be a problem. Bullpup is bullpup *shrug*. The other option is some form of semi-auto shotgun like a Saiga-12 that I can buy a drum mag for.

I'm not really interested in a rifle or pistol. Not really interested in something that can penetrate multiple walls and potentially end up in my neighbor's neighbor's wall. If I end up actually getting organized with a group then that'd change, but my modus operandi right now is to put my head down until I'm in a more secure environment; which means basically a shotgun because that seems like the ideal self-defense weapon for a home environment.

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spankmonkey 14 points 2 years ago

So… I’m going to schedule it for inauguration day .

Go get it Monday if you aren't opposed to it. No reason to wait and risk pregnancy being a couple weeks along on inauguration day.

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CaptDust 80 points 2 years ago

Feeling depressed, trapped, and abandoned. Going through the motions, trying to come to terms that I won't be a dad because the wife doesn't want to risk a pregnancy under the conditions, and I won't be a homeowner because no ones coming to help build houses or stop corporate real estate. Accepting I won't be starting a business because I can't risk losing healthcare, and will need every dollar I can hang on to. Settling for serfdom. You know, usual shit.

How are you.

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Gullible 16 points 2 years ago

Had to soak last week’s shirts due to anxiety sweats but this week will probably be lighter on the poor things. So, slightly worse than usual.

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teamevil 9 points 2 years ago
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MossyFeathers 73 points 2 years ago

Pretty shit. Came out of the closet as trans to my parents just before the election after hiding dysphoria for nearly 20yrs (I'm 30). Unfortunately, the dysphoria has been intense enough that I'm so dissociated that I can barely function, so as you might imagine, I'm currently living with parents.

My dad's reaction was basically, "whoever the best you is, be that you".

My mom's reaction was "but you're my son... I always wanted to have a brother and you're kinda like that".

Meanwhile my grandparents voted for Trump after saying they wouldn't, and are now crying about it. Literally. My grandmother was in tears.

So my mom is also dealing with that, and possibly osteoporosis, which meant she said, "it's gonna take time to process this".

Then last night she told me that I wasn't allowed to start hrt until I moved out.

She refuses to let me tell her why I can barely function. She refuses to let me describe what I'm going through. She says she "can't handle it", that "it's not a top priority right now", that she's "trying to understand" why I've made this "choice" while also telling me things like "but I like you the way you are" and rejecting any information I send to her because she'd rather consult her friends that she "trusts more".

She starts to have a panic attack whenever I try to talk to her about it and God forbid I tell her that she made a mistake because then I obviously hate her guts and want her to die. She's literally accused me of that.

It hurts like hell but I don't know how to get out of this situation. I don't know how long it'll take hrt and therapy to get me on my feet all while not having a job. All this while in Texas. I'm fucking scared.

Edit: I also kinda wonder if I was born intersex and that's why my mom is freaking out. I'd think my dad would know and would say something, but idk. I've heard of times where one parent had an intersex kid """fixed""" without the other parent knowing. It honestly might explain some shit if I was born intersex.

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WrenFeathers 23 points 2 years ago
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MossyFeathers 9 points 2 years ago

Thanks. It wasn't the reaction I was expecting, kinda the opposite. My dad's the one who had sisters and only nieces on his side of the family, so I was expecting him to be the one with hang-ups about it. Nope, it was my mom. What I was hoping for was support for a little while longer until I felt like I could live on my own, but it sounds like that's not gonna happen. My biggest frustration is not coming out sooner tbh. Woulda given me more time to make plans and meant that maybe I could have skipped years of feeling like a lazy, freeloading piece of shit (no, they never called me that, but that doesn't stop me from feeling like it).

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ceramicsky 22 points 2 years ago

Sorry you’re going through this. But I’m proud of you for coming out!

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MossyFeathers 7 points 2 years ago

Thanks, it really sucks. I didn't expect the reaction I got. I kinda expected my dad to be the one who got upset while my mom was supportive, not the opposite. My dad was the one who had two sisters and only nieces on his side of the family, so I kinda expected he was gonna be the one upset by it; but he's cool with it.

It also blew me away to hear that my grandparents voted for Trump after years of talking about how much they regretted voting for him in 2016 and how they'd never vote for him again. Guess I'm never coming out to them; not that I was totally expecting to due to their age, but it'll be fun coming up with a reason why moving out means I'm forced to move across the country and possibly never come back (at least probably not while they're still living).

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AngryCommieKender 4 points 2 years ago

Once you are moved out, and across the country, the song Cat's in the Cradle, by Harry Chapin gives you the perfect believable excuse. I'd love to come visit, and I will once work isn't riding me so much. We'll get together then.

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MossyFeathers 5 points 2 years ago

I love that song... It's just so sad. The kid wants to spend time with his dad but can't because his dad's always busy, and then the dad wants to spend time with his kid but can't because his child's all grown up and is busy now.

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RBWells 9 points 2 years ago

I will say it took me awhile to wrap my head around my kid being a son not a daughter. My concept of womanhood is quite broad, I really and truly did not see it coming, just thought she was dykey , for lack of a better word, still doesn't seem distressed at all either but that may be because all the kids at school just accept kids are whatever gender they say, it's no big deal to them, and siblings all immediately supportive. I didn't lay my trouble adapting on them, it's not his problem, it's mine - just saying you have known a long time but she has not, she will adjust.

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eccentric 6 points 2 years ago

She refuses to let me tell her why I can barely function. She refuses to let me describe what I'm going through. She says she "can't handle it", that "it's not a top priority right now", that she's "trying to understand" why I've made this "choice" while also telling me things like "but I like you the way you are" and rejecting any information I send to her because she'd rather consult her friends that she "trusts more".

She starts to have a panic attack whenever I try to talk to her about it and God forbid I tell her that she made a mistake because then I obviously hate her guts and want her to die. She's literally accused me of that.

Those paragraphs reminded me of the !raisedbynarcissists@lemmy.ml community.

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Daze 3 points 2 years ago

Absolutely. It’s not about the transition at all, she just can’t stomach the idea of losing an inkling of control.

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Moobythegoldensock 3 points 2 years ago

Congrats on coming out!

My wife’s mom still insists on deadnaming her over a decade after her transition, and refuses to recognize her gender. Sucks because she could be in our lives but instead just gets a phone call at Christmas, and I’ve never even talked to her. Some parents just make that choice, sucks that your mom is one of them.

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MossyFeathers 2 points 2 years ago

I'm hoping she'll eventually come around. In the meantime though, I'm getting to try and figure out how to get on my feet long enough to move out.

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FoxyFerengi 52 points 2 years ago
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CaptDust 14 points 2 years ago

That sounds very productive, wishing you luck in your pursuits

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Darrell_Winfield 11 points 2 years ago

make simple medications

Really interested in this. Care to elaborate or share any sources on the matter?

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FoxyFerengi 9 points 2 years ago
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JusticeForPorygon 7 points 2 years ago

As someone studying engineering and also looking for a way out, what all options have you looked into? Immigration seems to be both expensive and competitive in most places, and those are two things I don't know that I'm prepared for.

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FoxyFerengi 3 points 2 years ago
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Today 48 points 2 years ago

I'm in Texas in a blue bubble - more than i had realized i guess. 80% of the people i know are blue. I work in public education, so most of the red people i know were considering voting blue because of the push for school vouchers. I rarely see maga stuff and the yard signs around me were 80% Harris. Because of that i was completely shocked last Tuesday by the popular vote and it's left me kind of disoriented. My husband works in redville, so he's disgusted and exhausted. My adult sons are sad, mad, scared. My DIL has called me crying a few times - her parents are trumpsters and she wants to cut them out. Luckily we have enough cash on hand to help the kids get passports ASAP and enough savings to briefly go out of state/country if she needs healthcare. I 70% believe that Republican infighting will slow them down and it won't be as bad as feared, 30% ready for the leopards!

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Brunbrun6766 47 points 2 years ago

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2ugly2live 41 points 2 years ago

Depressed.

I haven't gone on walks for a bit because I just cannot stand seeing those fucking signs. My mom and grandma are in a tizzy, and my mom is just as forlorn. She doesn't even want to vote anymore.

And I'm so, so, so angry. I'm not saying Harris would be the second coming, but that anyone would pick a fascist over anyone is infuriating. The area I live in is not bougie, these signs were sometimes outside houses that have seen better days. And they doomed us all for at least the next four years. I'm so distrustful of my neighbors not that we were close to begin with. I want to ask them why, I want to scream at them, I want to question them.

I feel helpless. All my life I believed that there was some thread of decency that connected us, a thread of common sense. But there's none. And that's really upsetting.

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letsgo -1 points 2 years ago

Well you should ask them. Respectfully, without interrogation, and as part of a wider conversation that overall seeks to strengthen your relationships with your neighbours. You might find there is some sense there.

I'm from the UK, not USA. But I can see why some might vote for Trump. I wouldn't, personally, because of stuff he's said, but if you accept the premise "sure he speaks crazy but what he means is [non-crazy stuff]" then maybe there is some rationale behind their choice, and you might find you're not as different as you think.

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2ugly2live 7 points 2 years ago

I'mma be real with you: I have zero interest in hearing someone's reasons for voting for a fascist.

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Daze 4 points 2 years ago

I hate this response when it comes from outside the US too. Not only for what you said, but also because they’re not taking gun ownership into account. You don’t even have to knock at someone’s door here, just pulling up into someone else’s driveway is enough for the crazies to pull the trigger..

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gamermanh 1 point 2 years ago

then maybe there is some rationale behind their choice

34 felonies

Rape

Sucking off a microphone days before the election

There is 0 rationale and only delusion behind their choice

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radix 35 points 2 years ago

Pro: a handful of my state's absolute worst officials are set to quit their jobs and we get a do-over.

Con: they're quitting to join the administration and they'll be way more powerful and everyone else will suffer.

Sorry. I did what I could.

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HelluvaKick 33 points 2 years ago

Not great. Have a trans spouse and a young daughter who goes to public school. Have been burning through savings lately to pay off medical debt and am scared of losing my job once the tariffs kick in. My state just made homelessness illegal so the thought of the house of cards coming down is real

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LovableSidekick 32 points 2 years ago

Lemmings gonna lem, but I blame the millions of Dems who stayed home because Kamala didn't meet their moral purity standards and they refused to be "complicit in genocide". Cuz everyone knows it's better to walk over broken glass barefoot than wear uncomfortable shoes, right? If some of the 10 million who voted in 2020 but not 2024 had bothered to show up, we'd be looking at a very different story. Righteous dumbfucks.

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bl4kers 9 points 2 years ago

Campaigning is getting people to vote for you which includes getting people out to vote. Those are the true "swing" voters. Her campaign failed in this regard

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Klear 2 points 2 years ago

Yeah, it's not the fault of the voters, but a lack of advertisement.

God, I hate this timeline.

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Stovetop 1 point 2 years ago
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thermal_shock 0 points 2 years ago

I think it was closer to 15 million

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LovableSidekick 1 point 2 years ago

The stats I saw were 81 million in 2020 and 71 million in 2024, but I've been unable to find that table, maybe you're right.

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thermal_shock 1 point 2 years ago

it could be, I'm going off videos and stuff, not my research

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astla 30 points 2 years ago

Honestly I am so scared for my children. If Trump goes through with dismantling the Education department I do not trust my state at all not to destroy our public school system.

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CumWeedPoop 27 points 2 years ago

Meh. I want to try to move to Minnesota some day. Seems like a nice place. They have laws preventing employers from firing people over off-premise off-duty marijuana use. That just sounds worth doing even if the higher paying jobs are otherwise abusive and shitty. I have 2 degrees in tech.

and before this comment chain turns into a dumpster fire, I have no desire to work while high. I just wanna smoke weed at home, that's it.

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_bcron_ 18 points 2 years ago
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VindictiveJudge 15 points 2 years ago

Aside from the Wisconsin part, that describes most cities.

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adarza 6 points 2 years ago

duluth is ok, too, but the range has lost its political magic over the years.

the other college towns like mankato, moorhead, st cloud, bemidji are a lot redder than one would think they'd be, unlike some nearby college towns in wisconsin (eau claire, la crosse, superior. menomonie being an exception to those--it's dunn gone red lately)

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vivavideri 26 points 2 years ago

I grew up in a progressive city in a gerrymandered-to-hell swing state. Cheeto's first win promptly sent me into a tailspin there. I've moved a handful since but now find myself in MT 80 miles from the border, you know, just in case.

Red up here is different than red down there. There it was like rubbing salt in the wound, here it's quite obviously because there aren't enough people to know any different.

I'm nonbinary and have been laid off in Florida about it, so I no longer disclose that information professionally. It's not the most pleasant, but hey, hiding in plain sight is a really good way to see what's coming down the pike.

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krashmo 10 points 2 years ago
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vivavideri 2 points 2 years ago

<3

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Wahots 1 point 2 years ago

Cheers, used to live there but moved when Gianforte made an example out of that sweet trans public servant from Missoula. I'd pick a blue state to live in if you can. I'm an optimist and think things will recover (with permanent damage) but it's going to get a lot worse before it gets better :/

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JusticeForPorygon 25 points 2 years ago

I developed a pretty strong sense of apathy for most of the people around me, who either won't vote or vote for whatever Fox News tells them too.

That being said, I'm fearful for the friends I have that feel they will need to hide who they are just to go about their lives.

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scrubbles 30 points 2 years ago

Man I feel you there. The apathy is real. I feel for those who are innocent who are really going to be hurt by this. I've stopped caring about anyone who voted for it. You're on the lower income but can't afford food? Too bad he's coming for food stamps. Bootstraps. Grandma needs Medicaid but voted red? Sorry grandma, better get a job.

For all those who truly voted to try to save these things, my heart goes out to them. The rest though, it's going to be painful.

The ironic thing is that they did it all to own the libs. The thing is though, the vast majority of "libs" I see push for these programs for others, not themselves. But these people can't even comprehend that we want to help people and assume we want free stuff. All the while it's them that we were probably helping the most. It's absolutely asinine

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Brekky 6 points 2 years ago

Well put

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JusticeForPorygon 7 points 2 years ago

Looking into immigration opportunities for college students

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DragonTypeWyvern 6 points 2 years ago

If you can become fluent in German tuition is free and you still have access to US federal support (for now)

German's an easy language, right?

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JusticeForPorygon 4 points 2 years ago

Speaking of Germany, how's their government doing?

(Half joking, can't be worse than what's happened here)

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Samsy 6 points 2 years ago

We are working on the same shit, don't worry.

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gamermanh 2 points 2 years ago

German's an easy language, right?

Actually it really is if you speak decent English, about half of our language is basically the same

There's a cool YouTube video out there with phrases in English, German, and Dutch to show that you can communicate shockingly well between the 3 languages if you're careful, they're that similar

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DragonTypeWyvern 1 point 2 years ago

Lemme know how that works out for an engineering degree taught in Deutsch

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card797 23 points 2 years ago

I'm just giving up worrying and taking a break. I can't control these people. I'm gonna wait and see what happens and laugh at them when it blows up in our faces. Crying and laughing at the same time.

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Feathercrown 11 points 2 years ago

I'll join you in craughing

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samus12345 6 points 2 years ago

I guess they do already have the market cornered on lying.

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HurlingDurling 8 points 2 years ago

The tarifs are probably the first shitstorm. Buying any electronics and China-ware I preemptively think I'll need.

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PriorityMotif 8 points 2 years ago
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HurlingDurling 5 points 2 years ago

And also insurance rates are going to go up as well due to cost of repairs pushing many to drive illegally without insurance

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TipRing 22 points 2 years ago

I am moving to a blue state as soon as possible. Work already lined up, working on housing and arrangements for my animals. It's not safe here.

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HurlingDurling 7 points 2 years ago

Safe travels friend

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DragonTypeWyvern 21 points 2 years ago

Thankful I'm privileged, white, and straight passing.

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Default_Defect 4 points 2 years ago

Same-ish, I am straight, but some family think I might be gay because I didn't get a girl pregnant as a teenager or something. Thankfully, most of my friends live in a blue state I used to live in, so whatever help that affords to them is there.

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Blaster_M 20 points 2 years ago

Considering if I should pull out of the ACA plan (not renew) or stay in and hope they don't touch it come 2025. If they make any cuts or kill it, I will not be able to pay for the plan on my own, even a very low dollar one. Living's overrated anyway, if my health goes in the gutter after 2025, RIP me I guess.

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Neps 20 points 2 years ago

I am in an extremely red area of tx my next door neighbors fly like dont tred on me flags and confederate flags all the time and the whole neighborhood does stuff like that. Trying to move to a blue state with my partner (we are both nb) asap but it might be joever lmao.

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frayedpickles -6 points 2 years ago

Sorry about your lack of butts. One assumes you are referring to "no butt" disorder.

Edit: ohhhh I realized like 20 mins later you meant non-binary but since you're in a red state you think using the term partner is unusual even though that's become the standard in most of the blue states. Confused why you think "nb" is common though.

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gamermanh 2 points 2 years ago

Confused why you think "nb" is common though.

Because it is, say it out loud and you get "enby" which is a common spelling of the same thing

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BossDj 20 points 2 years ago

About 8 years ago, I moved from the red state I was born to a progressive city. I let my daughter serve her first year of school there then said oh hell no and got the fuck out.

Just remember rule number 1: Get hired first, then move

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Maiq 19 points 2 years ago

Fucking pissed but unsupprised.

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Azal 19 points 2 years ago

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

Fuck.

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MagicPterodactyl 17 points 2 years ago

Mostly just worried for my trans friends and family.

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PriorityMotif 5 points 2 years ago
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Arcynic 14 points 2 years ago

More scared for my friends in other red states since I'm cishet and look like I blend in with maga. I've felt isolated ever since I moved to ArKansas at the end of 2019. I have no friends in this state outside of the household. I am too scared to attempt organizing, wouldn't even know where to look or how to approach such a thing. This whole thing is terrifying, infuriating, confusing, and exhausting, and I know it's only going to get so very much worse.

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i_dont_want_to 13 points 2 years ago

Disappointed but not surprised. Joining forces with like minded people. Doing the best I can do.

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samus12345 13 points 2 years ago

I live in California, but I'm worried about just how much resistance a state can do against the Feds.

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paddirn 13 points 2 years ago

Meh. I knew going into the election that my vote would have little to no impact on this state, but I didn't realize a good portion of voters were just going to sit things out in the swing states, what the fuck was wrong with those people? Of course Republicans were going to vote Republican, but I thought I could count on people to turn out to save our country and vote against a dictatorship. Obviously not, and here we are.

The only possible thing working in our favor at this point is how utterly incompetent Trump and his ilk are, they'll be just as likely to infight amongst each other as they are to destroy the government.

I just hope that Ukraine can hold out or secure some kind of semi-favorable terms for peace out of the whole thing, they're the real ones that are getting fucked out of this whole thing. They've fought harder for their freedom than anybody else and we let them down.

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beliquititious 12 points 2 years ago

Most of all, lonely. My situation is rough. I'm a trans woman (some passing privilege), almost 40, and staying with center-right family in East Texas because I haven't been able to work in two years due to mental illness. I have a very difficult time making and keep friends and the family I'm staying with doesn't understand why I'm upset, doesn't care, and think I'm overreacting (They are superficially supportive about me being trans, but also voted for this). I was going to therapy for a while, but I had to discontinue it because I couldn't afford it any more. The only thing keeping me going is that for the last few years I've been able to feel more comfortable in my own skin, thanks to HRT.

I really don't want to go through whatever the Republicans have in store for trans people in red states alone. The thing I am most afraid of is them banning HRT for adults (it's already banned for kids). I've been on e since 2018. If everything were going great for me losing access to my medication would be a horrifying and soul crushing ordeal, I doubt I'll survive it with how my life is now.

This last week I've been almost completely non-functional. I've been alternating between uncontrollable sobbing, hours long panic attacks, furious rage, and making half-crazed, poorly thought out Lemmy and Reddit comments.

tl;dr: not great.

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MossyFeathers 4 points 2 years ago

sends hugs

DFW area here. Shit sucks. At least it's pretty blue here.

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Trev625 11 points 2 years ago

Not great :(

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RBWells 10 points 2 years ago

It's ok here because I'm in a left leaning city, trans kid (my youngest) will be adult soon so can begin medical care whenever they can afford it; any daughters who are at all into men have IUDs, and in general everything has been ok, except for school but that kid is a little bit insulated because it's an art school and they DGAF about the state saying they can't use nicknames or preferred gender. So that is ok but the actual teaching in the academic classes has faltered, getting bad like when I went to school here, and it's so disappointing after it had gotten so good for awhile.

Thanksgiving may be fractious because we have trans, communists, right wing, right-leaning, about half progressive leftist, one sort of prickly vegan (not prickly about us being omnivore, just more delicate sensibilities), it's always very mixed and rowdy like that, tensions seem higher but OTOH my ex has become more reasonable.

Bracing for economic downturn, hopefully it lets some people get into houses, who cannot now. And hopefully can stay employed, pretty old so have made it through several recessions already.

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Huckledebuck 9 points 2 years ago

Trying not to think too hard about it. I'm waiting for the idiots at work to try and bring anything up, but they've been uncharacteristically quiet. At least around me. I'm pretty sure I'm the token liberal to these nitwits.

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HotsauceHurricane 9 points 2 years ago

It’s aight.

I knew which color my state went. It aint gonna change soon.

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scoobford 7 points 2 years ago

I was already planning on moving to Chicago next year, so...eh? I worry about our country for a lot of reasons, but none of them only apply to red state residents.

That being said, if I wasn't already moving I'd be getting the hell out of dodge. I don't have a uterus, but I know people who do, and I won't be party to the state suppression of their healthcare on religious grounds.

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fruitycoder 6 points 2 years ago

Disappointed. Trying to find meaningful ways to protect our migrants community here, so far it's just supporting the ACLU and trying, and so fucking reason it's hard to convince people another trail of tears would be bad.

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stinerman 6 points 2 years ago

We'll see if I go back to the mental hospital but I don't foresee it happening unless work gets really bad again.

I've already internalized that this country is populated by shitty, hateful people. Trump winning again just confirms what I already knew.

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Tazerface 5 points 2 years ago
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JubilantJaguar 5 points 2 years ago

Personally, I feel worse for the each and every one of the 7.7 billion people who didn't have a vote in this election but will now reap its consequences.

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subtext 4 points 2 years ago

Pretty much the same as before the election. Life moves on.

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tiefling 27 points 2 years ago

It's easy to say that from a position of privilege. Unfortunately for a large chunk of the population, life is not the same.

I'm not accusing you of anything, you had no control over who you were born as. Just explaining as a reminder.

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grue 11 points 2 years ago

Not to mention, it's easy to say that before Inauguration Day. None of Trump's tyranny has had a chance to happen yet.

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subtext 5 points 2 years ago

Definitely a good reminder!

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TrickDacy 3 points 2 years ago

You'll find out soon enough how well we're "moving on"

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dingus 3 points 2 years ago

It's just kind of interesting to be asking the red states about this. Red states were already living in that kind of environment. I feel like it's the blue states that people should be asking this question to. I live in a red state. I hate the politics here but life isn't too much different than when I lived in a blue state. I am privileged to be cis tho, so I'd imagine if I were trans I would be terrified. I mean, I'm still a bit scared, but I am a bit of a lucky individual.

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LunarVoyager 2 points 2 years ago
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Tazerface 12 points 2 years ago
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thisguy1092 0 points 2 years ago

Awesome

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Ensign_Crab -3 points 2 years ago

Lemmings in blue states, are you scared that you might get at the national level what you keep callously saying we deserve?

Because maybe if you had some fucking solidarity, there would be fewer red states. We're doing shitty, thank you for all the nothing, and you'll be right there with us soon.

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Gullible 2 points 2 years ago

Is this meant to be from the perspective of a right winger or a communist critique on class solidarity?

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Ensign_Crab 3 points 2 years ago

This is from the perspective of a blue voter in a red state. As long as something is a Red State Problem, Democrats in blue states figure that everyone in the state likes things as they are and deserves it.

If there was some solidarity with workers nationwide and not just in your own states. If there was solidarity with trans people instead of Democratic candidates parroting rightwing hate about "boys in girls sports." If there was solidarity on cannabis or abortion. If there were tangible benefits Democrats could point to that people in red states actually experienced, there would be fewer red states.

But no. Everyone in a red state deserves to be abandoned, regardless of how they vote.

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vxx -4 points 2 years ago

They get it, you deserve it.

Of course they're getting it, because they have been made the boogie man that made your state vote hate to harm them

I suspect because of envy

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Ensign_Crab 5 points 2 years ago

Have you considered that not everyone in red states are Republicans?

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vxx 1 point 2 years ago

Because maybe if you had some fucking solidarity, there would be fewer red states. We're doing shitty, thank you for all the nothing, and you'll be right there with us soon.

I don't believe you after that statement. That's at least two deadly sins.

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