Ok, some nerd please explain the switches on this IRL calculator app

2 years ago by no banana to c/lemmyshitpost

FiniteLooper 161 points 2 years ago

The first one lets you turn K on or off

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ObviouslyNotBanana 93 points 2 years ago

K.

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ObviouslyNotBanana 77 points 2 years ago

Damn, it worked.

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Fredselfish 3 points 2 years ago

From OKLAHOMA don't have no clue, don't why you think an Ok nerd would know over another state? /s

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ObviouslyNotBanana 3 points 2 years ago

OK NERD

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frankenswine 1 point 2 years ago

F

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theit8514 56 points 2 years ago

Found some documentation listing the two middle switches as the rounding switch (up fraction down) and the decimal switch (auto? 0 to 6 then hex?). No idea on the other two.

http://www.calcuseum.com/...

Decimal switch: [A-0-2-3-4-6-F], Round switch: [(ArrowUp)-5/4-(ArrowDown)], Miscellaneous switch: [(Blank)-K .-(Sigma)],

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ObviouslyNotBanana 7 points 2 years ago

Nice!

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tias 40 points 2 years ago

Some guesses by ChatGPT:

Left Switch ("K" setting):
  • K: Likely for a "constant mode," where the calculator uses one operand as a constant for repeated >calculations (e.g., multiplying several numbers by the same value).
  • The other position is likely "normal mode," disabling this feature.
Middle Switch ("A/2/4/6" etc.):
  • This could control decimal rounding or precision:
  • "A" might stand for "automatic" mode.
  • "0, 2, 3, 4, 6" refers to the number of decimal places displayed or used in calculations.
  • "F" likely stands for "full precision," using all available decimal places.
Right Switch ("Σ" setting):
  • Σ: Likely enables a "summation mode," where the calculator automatically adds results to a running total (useful for bookkeeping or repetitive additions).
  • The other position disables this mode.

Being Swedish the "constant mode" seems likely as we often used k (for "konstant") in school math to represent a constant (e.g. for the slope of a line).

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Nurse_Robot 26 points 2 years ago

Bold of you to mention chat gpt in a comment, I feel like any mention of it tends to get down voted to hell, even when it's appropriately used as you did here

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ObviouslyNotBanana 30 points 2 years ago

Those fucking things are great as tools to figure stuff out. Can't trust them to be correct, but you can trust them to shoot the shit and dribble the ball to a destination which is unknowable to man

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TrickDacy 5 points 2 years ago

Can't trust them to be correct,

At some point people somehow got the idea that if you blindly trust something, bad things that come from that aren't your fault. People definitely aren't skeptical enough. That's the problem.

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ObviouslyNotBanana 1 point 2 years ago

True.

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rockerface 6 points 2 years ago

At least it can give you more precise questions to google to verify its output

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ryedaft 3 points 2 years ago

People rarely do though. Like in this post.

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TrickDacy 1 point 2 years ago

Yeah, people are really bad at nuance and context. Even something that is normally a shitty tool can have uses.

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TootSweet 15 points 2 years ago

Until I saw your post, I was going to guess the A,0,2,3,4,6,F switch would switch it into different numerical bases. Like, if you wanted to do math in binary, switch to the "2" position. "0" (or maybe "A") would be base 10. "F" would be hexadecimal. But what you have definitely makes more sense.

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zaphod 8 points 2 years ago

F is 15, so that'd be weird for hex, and I've never seen base 4 or 6 used for anything, base 8 is common for some things but missing here.

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zarp86 4 points 2 years ago

It kind of makes sense in that 15 is the last single digit in hex.

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AnUnusualRelic 2 points 2 years ago

I think some computers have been known to work in base 6. Or maybe I'm just confusing it with them using 6 bits. Probably the latter.

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froh42 3 points 2 years ago path: 0 14414762 14415239 14415563 14416219 14418130, hotness: undefined, score: 3, children: 0
nef 10 points 2 years ago

This looks mostly right. The precision slider is definitely probably only for the output, not calculations. The (up | 5/4 | down) is (always round up | round 5+ up and 4- down | always round down)

What I'd like to know is how the A and F settings are different.

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Benjaben 4 points 2 years ago

Auto to me (if A is Auto) sounds like it'd truncate unnecessary digits (4 or 4.0 instead of 4.0000) maybe? Whereas if F is Full then you'd get full precision?

Idk seems logical but not especially useful, probably not a great guess.

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lime 3 points 2 years ago

i've never seen one of these display decimals like that, it doesn't seem like something that would need a setting.

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Benjaben 2 points 2 years ago

Yeah I don't think my comment is right lol.

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ObviouslyNotBanana 2 points 2 years ago

I can say that A seems to be Auto in the way you think but I haven't figured out what criteria it has for this automation. Maybe there's a way I could figure it out. I'm not a maths kind of guy (had pretty bad teachers in school) so it's all honestly above my head. Shamefully enough.

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Benjaben 2 points 2 years ago

Nothing to be ashamed of my friend, cool little device you've got here!

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amphetaminisiert 6 points 2 years ago

Did you just plug the picture into chatgpt? It's awesome if something like that works :o

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tias 6 points 2 years ago

Yes I uploaded the image and asked it the same question as OP

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hemmes 3 points 2 years ago

Yeah, I use that feature all the time. It’s really great. I can upload an image of text data and get an output in table or summary format.

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ObviouslyNotBanana 2 points 2 years ago

Did you literally ask some nerd to explain this app? Thank

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ObviouslyNotBanana 3 points 2 years ago

It seems to be right on the K switch. And yeah. Konstant makes sense.

The numbered switch seems to check out at least. Other than the F. F just gives me a single decimal. edit: no... Three...?

Not sure about the right switch. It adds an I in the upper right corner and it seems possible to flip between different calculation results. Maybe?

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rockerface 4 points 2 years ago

F is likely Floating point - so, just regular precision. Not sure what A would be, then

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raccoon 3 points 2 years ago

Checks out, since floating point is "flyttal" in Swedish.

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tyler 2 points 2 years ago

For checking F try typing in an irrational number. Like 22/7

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ObviouslyNotBanana 10 points 2 years ago

Yeah that certainly worked

Photo for the nerds who like screens

Note: the display is actually a deep green to the eyes.

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idiomaddict 2 points 2 years ago

What does 22/7 get you under “A?”

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juliebean 5 points 2 years ago

did you just suggest a ratio as an irrational number?

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tyler 3 points 2 years ago

Well he doesn’t have a pi button.

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Excrubulent 1 point 2 years ago

I noticed that too, but they are coprime with one another and they aren't divisible by or into 10, so they would definitely create repeating digits. Could've used 1/3 for the same effect though.

I just tried and it's a pi approximation, which makes more sense.

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Th4tGuyII 1 point 2 years ago

Given the available context, I'm inclined to agree with ChatGPT. I can't see those listed being anything else

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bstix 38 points 2 years ago

I see a lot of wrong info on the the decimal slider. This is how it works:

A is for "Add-mode". This means that 2 decimals are always assumed. It's used for adding a lot of 2 decimal numbers, because you'll never have to press the decimal key. If you've ever worked a credit card terminal and having to enter 200 to get 2.00$, that's how this setting works.

0-6 are fixed and rounded according to the rounding setting.

The decimal F is for floating. It'll use the most relevant amount of decimals.

Another funny button is MU which is Mark Up. It's used with the percentage button. It's a backward ass way to do percentages. You'll enter a value and then MU the percentage that you want from the result, instead of the input. Say you have product that costs 100 and you'll want to mark it up, so you'll get 20% of your new sales price as profit. Press 100 MU 20% and it should show 125, which is your sales price, because 25 is the 20% of 125. It doesn't make sense to me why anyone ever needed that button.

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ObviouslyNotBanana 5 points 2 years ago

Actually I found this site (in German) which says that the MU is for Impact Calculation. Which... I wouldn't even begin to try to understand how I'd use.

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bstix 5 points 2 years ago

According to that site, it also has an item counter. Normally this also on the print, but without a printer I guess it needs a button for that. Perhaps the IC button?

Remember that on desktop calculators the operations are entered reverse of ordinary pocket calculators. First you press the number and then you press the operation. So to do 100 - 50 you need to press "100 + 50 -"

Same for the MU. First you need a number to be added. Then MU some number as percentage and +=.

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ObviouslyNotBanana 2 points 2 years ago

If I switch the power on, and press the IC key nothing happens. But I do, as far as I can see, any calculation and press IC I get a (to me) random number displayed on screen. So yeah, that might be the case but I'm not sure what items it is counting. The RV key seems to flip between different numbers.

Impact Calculation might just be a mistranslation. DeepL seems to think it should be mark-up. Following what you told me, I still get no result from operating the calculator with MU and %. Which is surprising me because it acts like those keys have no function.

I'll write it in the order I press the keys and maybe you'll figure out what I'm doing wrong.

Switch on > 100 > MU > 20 > % = 20

It displays 20 even if I press += after. The display does update, so it is registering the key presses at least.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

edit: ok I think I figured it out. It's MU > 100 > X > 20 > % > += > 120

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bstix 2 points 2 years ago

It think you should try:

100 > + > MU > 20 > % > +=

It should show 125.

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ObviouslyNotBanana 4 points 2 years ago

That's some great info!

The back of it says it's been used at a local insurance company. Wonder if that button is useful there somehow.

Do you know what the rightmost row is about? And the two buttons above C and CE?

edit: the MU function doesn't seem to do anything. Maybe I'm missing something.

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bstix 3 points 2 years ago

Most of the other buttons appears to be for the internal carrier (aka memory). Lets say that the main display is one column in Excel. The memory is then a second column, where you can pull or push the displayed result in a variety of ways. This allows you to do some calculation, throw the result into memory, clear he entry and do another calculation and add that to the previously stored result and such. The slider labeled with the sum sign is a grand total. It'll cause all your results to be summarized. I'm not sure how to display it. Maybe it's only shown on the print.

The MU button doesn't "do" anything by itself. You'll need to press 100. Press MU. press 20. Press %. Or maybe the sequence is different. It would be nice with a manual.

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ObviouslyNotBanana 2 points 2 years ago

Yeah, that makes sense, though the calculator doesn't have a printer unless by print you mean something I'm too much of a scrub to understand!

The MU button doesn't "do" anything by itself. You'll need to press 100. Press MU. press 20. Press %. Or maybe the sequence is different. It would be nice with a manual.

Yeah I tried doing these things in different orders but they don't seem to affect one another in any way. Maybe it needs one of the switches in a certain spot or something.

A manual would definitely be a nice thing. Sadly I haven't been able to find one.

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Kolanaki 14 points 2 years ago

"What's up with your calculator, bruh? It says 2+2 equals infinity."

"Did you set it to F?"

"Yeah. What's F mean?"

"It means it's Fucked."

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theunknownmuncher 13 points 2 years ago
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ObviouslyNotBanana 21 points 2 years ago

Thanks, I already know no. means number

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obscur_e 17 points 2 years ago

Nomber*

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iAmTheTot 6 points 2 years ago

Wait, holy crap, why is No. short for number? Must have to do with another language?

Edited to add, of course the answer is Latin.

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OhStopYellingAtMe 3 points 2 years ago

No.

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ObviouslyNotBanana 2 points 2 years ago

Pretty sure its actually the calculator language

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ObviouslyNotBanana 3 points 2 years ago

%

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Diplomjodler3 10 points 2 years ago

No means no, you misogynist pig!

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ObviouslyNotBanana 2 points 2 years ago

No

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PhobosAnomaly 18 points 2 years ago

apology for poor english

when were you when svenska calculator post drop?

i was sat at home eating IKEA meatballs when notification ring

‘Calculator switch set to K’

‘no’

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thesohoriots 7 points 2 years ago

It’s an older copypasta sir, but it checks out.

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ObviouslyNotBanana 2 points 2 years ago

Svenska Kalkylator.

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dditty 9 points 2 years ago

Looks like Facit calculators were originally manufactured in Sweden and then later Japan. No mention of that particular model on this website, however

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ObviouslyNotBanana 6 points 2 years ago

I know. I'm in Sweden. Facit was a big thing in its day. This one's made by Sharp in Japan. It's a 2102. Or maybe that's when the manual will be released.

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forrgott 8 points 2 years ago

Well, I see a round up, didn't round, or round down switch. The next one might be how many points if precision??. The last one has to do with sum vs series somehow.

That is interesting, though. Beyond me, that's for sure

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ObviouslyNotBanana 4 points 2 years ago

If I move the larger switch to A, everything is done in decimal. Maybe that's a hint?

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Pudutr0n 7 points 2 years ago

They seem to have some kind of function regarding how to perform or display calculations.

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ObviouslyNotBanana 4 points 2 years ago

This app isn't very intuitive

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hark 6 points 2 years ago

The right-most switch lets you turn on sigma mode.

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CidVicious 6 points 2 years ago

I would assume that's summation mode, so everything you enter is treated as a running total. This looks like a business calculator.

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ObviouslyNotBanana 2 points 2 years ago

That's pretty sigma

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ObviouslyNotBanana 6 points 2 years ago

Trying to find the sum of my meme ransom please respond

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ocean 5 points 2 years ago

On the top left you can change from none or K

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ObviouslyNotBanana 2 points 2 years ago

Isn't it decimal or K?

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ocean 7 points 2 years ago

k

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ObviouslyNotBanana 2 points 2 years ago

.

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ocean 3 points 2 years ago

K

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kaprap 3 points 2 years ago

It might allow you to place numbers in different spots?

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Pudutr0n 3 points 2 years ago

wat

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ObviouslyNotBanana 6 points 2 years ago

OK, SOME NERD PLEASE EXPLAIN THE SWITCHES ON THIS IRL CALCULATOR APP!

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Riprif 2 points 2 years ago

Now someone explain the right and left columns of buttons

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ObviouslyNotBanana 1 point 2 years ago

Right! I haven't even thought about when yet.

All I can tell you is that the right side is somehow related to the rightmost switch. C and CE do what they do on any calculator.

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