Oh. I thought the "far left" alternative to "basic needs" would somehow lead to concentration camps.

found a fascist

Gonna happen every time Reddit fucks up and triggers another batch of exiles.

Apparently you're allergic to truth as well, Right wingers love censorship & exclusion & literally wrote the book on fascism

Hitler was a right-winger remember & I guess it's time for you to stop wasting our time Mr.Fascisto Brainroto

There’s bo courting of bigots, and no want to engage with them.

Then why did Kamala spend her entire campaign with Liz Cheney? Why is Gavin Newsom currently inviting self avowed white supremacists onto his podcast to agree with them? Why is it that most Democrats have abandoned the notion of humane borders and instead they are pushing for strong criminalization and empowering ICE? Why did a significant number of centrist Dems support the Lincoln Riley act which prioritized deporting people ACCUSED (not convicted) of crimes?

That's courting bigots.

Every notable push for progressive policies has come from the dem side, shocking ad that may be for those watching from the fringes.

Because progressives are part of the democrat caucus, not because centrists are actually secretly progressive.

The nearest we’ve been able to manage so far is the ACA which started out with more substance but you can’t exactly upend the whole system in one go.

And why didn't the ACA go further? Hint, it wasn't because progressives in the dem caucus fought against it.

But further, the ACA was by and large a bad bill. It was based on Heritage foundation principles and it's ended exactly how you'd think an arch conservative thinktank bill would end. The good part of the ACA, patient protection, wasn't the major portion of it. The major portion of it was a sweat gift to insurance companies by trying to force people to buy health insurance and a sweat gift to hospitals by making it easier for them to merge. Ever wonder why it is that all hospitals are now basically catholic hospitals? That was part of the ACA that reduced restrictions on mergers under the auspices of making things cheaper.

The only other semi-progressive thing was Medicaid expansion, and even that was passed as an "opt-in" rather than just a mandatory requirement. Which, many states didn't opt into and now states like my own are currently passing laws to undo ballot initiatives that opted in.

The ACA was as neutered and whittled back as it was precisely to try and appease both centrist dems and republicans. Obama worked hard to try and get republicans onboard with the bill and made huge amounts of compromises that ultimately didn't get any of them signing on.

‘punishing dems’ for Isreal’s actions

No, it was punishing dems for dems actions. Where did Israel get most of it's munitions? Did any of the centrist Dems try and slow the roll of sending US military aid? Did Biden or anyone in his admin even HINT at condemnation of ANY of Israel's actions?

And why not? Because they were actively courting bigots who view Palestinians as subhumans and terrorists that deserve genocide.

But yeah, obviously it's progressives that are being unreasonable and pie in the sky. Fuck us not wanting to support genocide, the gestopo, or for wanting affordable healthcare.

Since Bill Clinton, the playbook of dems has been to run to the right while blaming election losses on progressive.

And, crazy as it sounds, I'll give it to you. Biden was one of the most progressive Dem presidents in probably 50 years. Yet when it came to campaigning, both he and Kamala ran from every single progressive position of their administration. Even to the point of talking about firing appointees that "went to far" such as Lina Khan. Even though she was wildly popular with both Dems and Republicans, just not big business.

There are more figures on the far left than anarchists. You can't just No true Scotsman Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot.

That would also mean that poor people choose to stay poor. They did not choose to be born into a class, but they do choose their futures.

What do you mean by “social group”?

I didn't use the term "social group" anywhere. Come back when you're sober.

There is no line, no horseshoe, not dodecahedron or whatever shape you might want to invent where you will conveniently put yourself as far away from Nazis on that shape.

Human minds are hard wired for tribalism. Political groups will always have a tendency towards tribalism and ideology only exists to recruit more members and keep existing member loyal to the tribe.

This is why you'll notice a lot of hypocrisy in any political group. Why people will support the same thing they were previously against depending entirely on whether someone within their group is promoting it. Ideology isn't the primary motivator for a political group, tribalism is.

Most of the comments I see from leftists here could be copy and pasted directly into a MAGA forum and they would be well received. Leftists and Trumpists are really only different in some very minor differences in terminology they use. Just find and replace "late stage capitalism" for "globalist agenda" and many more comments would work with MAGAs. And of course leftists won't like Trump (he's not in their tribe) but the majority of comments from leftists aren't against Trump, they're against liberals.