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opt9 0 points 3 years ago
IVPN and Mullvad are probably the best VPNs if you simply want to transfer full view of all your internet activity from your ISP to one of these 2 companies. If you want to keep your internet movements private from everyone, use Tor browser. Its slower and doesn't do udp, but it is much closer to real privacy than the commercial VPNs. Of course, if you are a high priority target of a large nation state, then Tor might not be enough for you, but for most people it works well for those things you want private. If you just want to watch movies, torrent and stuff like that, regular VPNs are the way to go.
stevedidWHAT 1 point 3 years ago
And have 5 sites you can go to most of which are in Russian.
Also wasn’t they’re something about that group supporting Putin or something like that?
Reverendender 4 points 3 years ago
I seriously considered switching, but they don’t offer enough storage to make it a better value for me.
WithaC 4 points 3 years ago
I've been trying out the password manager these past couple weeks to see how it compares to Bitwarden. Overall I've been impressed. Auto fill actually seems to be superior on Proton as it works on some sites that Bitwarden never would for me. My only real complaint at the moment is that the iOS app will log out of my account at random and it's a hassle to log back in since I don't always have my Proton pw on hand.
chemicalwonka 26 points 3 years ago
Mullvad VPN paid with Monero and NextDNS paid version.
itchy_lizard 8 points 3 years ago
Why NextDNS if you already query DNS through Mullvad?
chemicalwonka 6 points 3 years ago
Because I prefer the granular control that I have over my queries when I'm using NextDNS something that I don't have with Mullvad DNS.
KitsuneHaiku 23 points 3 years ago
Don't use express VPN. They make it very annoying to cancel. I thought I canceled once and it didn't work.
It takes three confirmations inside a hidden menu.
humancrayon 5 points 3 years ago
If you were in with Mozilla VPN while it was in beta (for $4.99/month), you can keep that price for life as long as you have an active sub. I got lucky with that one.
jawbrakelong 17 points 3 years ago
Proton
Celtic7670 16 points 3 years ago
Mullvad and Cryptostorm
kostel_thecreed 6 points 3 years ago
Sources for it being a honeypot?
kostel_thecreed 2 points 3 years ago
Douglas Spink was arrested. He was then removed from the team, no longer having access to anything. Df has been the main guy for the past couple years - but that's cryptostorm becoming a honeypot, in your opinion?
Doesn't hurt to be overly paranoid, but this is to the extreme.
Celtic7670 3 points 3 years ago
May I ask why do you think Cryptostorm is a honeypot?
GlitchyDigiBun 3 points 3 years ago
That's almost always caused by one of your nodes' IPs being logged doing sketchy stuff. Try picking a different route.
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Reverendender 13 points 3 years ago
Private Internet Access
noodlejetski 14 points 3 years ago
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Some have pointed at Kape’s history. The company had previously operated under the name Crossrider and was active in the advertising space. Among other things, it installed toolbars with ‘potentially unwanted software.’ While the company has since switched to a focus on cybersecurity, this past has made some people suspicious.
vanontom 2 points 3 years ago
I also use PIA, for many years now. The performance for price has always been fantastic, along with their policies. However, I'm becoming worried about the company now, noticing signs of bad health. Software development and updates have stopped (I've now switched to OpenVPN). Help and documentation has stopped (and blog/news). Customer service seems extremely understaffed as well.
Reverendender 4 points 3 years ago
The price is good, I’ve used them for many years and I’ve never had a problem.
narwhalperson 2 points 3 years ago
It’s a solid point, but VPN companies have violated “no logs” policies in the past.
khornechips 7 points 3 years ago
Personally, I switched from Mullvad after they dropped support for port forwarding. I’ve found AirVPN is easier to use on that front as well.
dishpanman 6 points 3 years ago
Port forwarding, got a good deal, reviewed well. It exports Wireguard and OpenVPN files easily, so you are not tied to their Eddie client. I'm happy with it so far.
Buttermilk 2 points 3 years ago
How does it effect your internet speed, and does inhibit number of connections at all?
beeb 2 points 3 years ago
All VPN software might affect bandwidth due to the increased progressing needed for encryption, but quantifying it is hard because several factors come into play : mainly the hardware and bandwidth on either side of the tunnel. Giving it a go is easy and you can check which VPS specs give you the speed you require. Regarding the number of connections, I'm not sure of the answer. For all intents and purposes I don't run into a lot of problems on a daily basis and bandwidth is acceptable on a cheap 4€/mo VPS with 2 CPUs. Bonus tip for privacy, you can use port 443 for wireguard which makes it less obvious you're using a VPN.
retrieval4558 1 point 3 years ago
What does that run you? Is it more cost effective than a few dollars a month for a commercial service?
03ari 10 points 3 years ago
Only VPN I would trust is Mullvad
Proton was accused to give access to mails to authorities : https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-58476983
NordVPN and others are usually linked to your email + credit card stuff and you blindly need to trust them
Contend6248 5 points 3 years ago
Not only have they provided the data, but they were even called "really easy to work with" by the feds
stevedidWHAT 3 points 3 years ago
What’s the consistency, speed, security, scale, and availability though.
IphtashuFitz 5 points 3 years ago
It’s been great for me. Servers all over the world, connection remains rock solid for me. I also like that they support port forwarding, which can be a godsend for some torrents.
stevedidWHAT 1 point 3 years ago
Do you have any details tho or is it just that “it’s been good for you”
Namely security, consistency and speed
cow 9 points 3 years ago
I don't. Your ISP can hardly see anything you do online. Almost all websites are encrypted with HTTPS and if you are concerned about them seeing what domains you visit you can just change your dns server to quad9 or something else privacy respecting. A more valid usecase for VPN is preventing websites from tracking you IP address, downloading "Linux ISO's" or bypassing geographical blocks and for that I used mullvad but I am looking for something else now that they blocked port forwarding.
jbloggs777 9 points 3 years ago
If you torrent copyrighted material in Germany, you definitely want a VPN. Private law firms "representing copyright holders" regularly request information about consumers based on source IPs/protocol/ports from ISPs with a court's rubber stamp, then send out demand letters for hundreds of euros, with a risk of thousands if you choose to fight it.
Sometimes they follow up if you ignore it, sometimes not. It is horribly oppressive.
tl;dr germans who torrent from a consumer internet service should use a vpn
hobs 5 points 3 years ago
Even DNS traffic and IP address and packet metadata is extremely valuable to ISPs like Comcast and AT&T. They use it to control what you can and can't do -- for example, throttling your access to streaming video services that compete with their own streaming products or partners' products. They spent millions to overturn Net Neutrality regulations so they can use what they know about your traffic to monetize you (steer you to their products).
just_browsing 2 points 3 years ago
Yup. An ISP could potentially gain some information based on the IPs you're hitting and the number/frequency of packets sent and received, but that would take serious logging and analysis on their part. It's much easier to collect data through DNS requests.
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just_browsing 2 points 3 years ago
Deep packet inspection by definition requires the ability to see inside the packet, which if using HTTPS wouldn't be possible for your ISP.
They can still see the destination IP, return IP, and port number, but that's it. It would take a ton of storage to log all of that packet data though, and it'd be difficult to come up with a way not to double count it if it's going through multiple hops on the ISP network.
Logging DNS requests on the DNS server would be a much easier way of collecting that data if they wanted it. I know cloudflare collects aggregate DNS query data through their public DNS server, and Google likely does too.
penguintrinity 1 point 3 years ago
@just_browsing I was just bullshitting. Sure, they would need a proxy of sorts and a certificate to open your packages if you use HTTPS. I suppose the only thing that can help with carrier surveillance is a good VPN or TOR. But even then, the VPN provider is a problem in and of itself.
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just_browsing 5 points 3 years ago
Yeah... that's not how TLS works.
Shaikan 0 points 3 years ago
I wont go into much detail but ISPs can act as intermediaries in https calls and TLS would work only between you and the ISP and then ISP and the requested server. Software like Zscaler does similar stuff you can look it up if you want
just_browsing 6 points 3 years ago
I'm familiar. Other than key exchange for encrypted connections, the whole point of HTTPS/TLS is establishing who you're connecting with is who they say they are and preventing man in the middle attacks just like you described.
If your traffic was being intercepted by something like Zscaler it wouldn't be able to provide the proper signed certificate of that web address and your browser would throw a mismatch error. IT departments using such intermediaries for https traffic inspection only get around this by installing the intermediaries' root CA on your system so it's not flagged by your browser or whatever you're using for TLS traffic.
The only way someone could intercept your TLS traffic and then pass it onto you without you knowing is by having that website's private key to sign the traffic with, which is a major security breach. As soon as something like that is discovered the certificate is revoked and a new one is issued with a different private key.
So, again, that's just not how TLS works.
retrieval4558 8 points 3 years ago
ProtonVPN. The VPN works great. I'd use some of their other services but they're pretty restrictive unless you're on more expensive plans than I'm on.
FlappyBubble 8 points 3 years ago
I use a combination of self hosted wireguard servers at family and friends. They connect together with Tailscale. One of the endpoints connect to the Internet through Mullvad. This makes it easy for every single device I own to connect to either Mullvad or any of a number of possible regular ISPs.
stellargmite 4 points 3 years ago
Are all of said family and friends IT savy , or you installed them at each site yourself? Interesting
FlappyBubble 2 points 3 years ago
Family not so much. Friends most definitely. It's awesome but takes some trust to lend ones IP out. But having almost 10 different IP addressess to choose from really helps at times. One of them lives abroad too.
slampisko 8 points 3 years ago
I see surprisingly few mentions of WindScribe in this thread. I've had nothing but good experience with them and I always read their promo emails in full (they send very few of them, and their marketing team is hilarious)
TheSun 2 points 3 years ago
I recently switched to windscribe from NordVPN since my initial 3 year plan was coming to an end with nord. I really liked that you can customize a plan. I only need a few specific servers to choose from so I picked those and just pay $4 monthly instead of having to buy 3 years at a time to get a good price. Makes it easier to switch if I choose to but the speeds have been incredible compared to Nord. I do wish they would update their linux client to have feature-parity with the rest of the clients (linux doesn't seem to have split-tunneling as an option).
kostel_thecreed 1 point 3 years ago
Support team is amazing too, got billed 13 times a while ago and they quickly refunded it + gave me an extra 3 years for free.
Technoguyfication 6 points 3 years ago
Windscribe. Prices are great, unlimited bandwidth, and 1Gbps servers for no additional cost. They have a free tier as well. They’re very privacy focused. Been a customer of theirs for probably like 5-6 years now.
totallynotfbi 3 points 3 years ago
Huh, interesting that VPNs work in China. I thought the GFW aggressively throttled encrypted connections?
godless 2 points 3 years ago
Nah they identify the protocol handshake and block it altogether, so you need to find a VPN with a proprietary protocol that keeps updating.
It's probably a modified openvpn with some package obfuscation, but works surprisingly well.
ipkpjersi 5 points 3 years ago
Selfhosted DigitalOcean VPS with SOCKS 5 SSH tunnelling for masking my home IP when web browsing and OVH VPS with OpenVPN server for masking my home IP for my local seedbox server. I don't really need commercial VPNs since I only really need basic functionality to mask my IP and I don't really need a shared service to do that.
YMMV, of course.
chemicalwonka 4 points 3 years ago
Did you care about traces that you left behind and can be linked directly to you? Is a nice setup but if you pay DigitalOcean VPS with PayPal for example or credit card all your efforts to hide your real IP that is linked to you is useless. I don't know if this is a major concern to you, of course.
ipkpjersi 5 points 3 years ago
Yeah, I'm aware it's dedicated and not shared, and there's billing info etc. It's just so that websites, particularly forums etc cannot have my home IP just like that. It's an additional layer of protection.
BlackEco 5 points 3 years ago
Excuse me for my lack of understanding, but why are there so many people looking to hide their traffic from their ISP with a VPN? Isn't HTTPS enough? Are you afraid of ISPs resorting to DPI or MiM to spy on their users? Is customer protection so weak in the US that ISPs are free to spy on their customers using aforementioned techniques?
Edit: I just realized that I left out people leaving under authoritarian regimes, for whom VPNs are unfortunately required to evade their government.
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kenbw2 4 points 3 years ago
They have also injected Javascript into pages (selling new modems) and add(ed) unique headers to HTTP traffic so websites could identify individual users despite their best attempts.
This must have been pre-HTTPS since you'd need to MitM the SSL certificate for that to work
squiblet 6 points 3 years ago
To me, the problem is you are instead giving over all of your info to the VPN company, and still be tracked by other means such as fingerprinting of devices, cookies/site data or browsing patterns. Is some random VPN company more trustworthy than my ISP and who’s to say they aren’t sharing the information? Plus, the could also be subpoenaed/NSLed if that’s the concern.
howrar 8 points 3 years ago
I'd be more willing to trust a VPN company with this data than an ISP. The former's entire business hinges on providing privacy to their customers while the latter can just sell your data to whoever they want and most people wouldn't bat an eye.
squiblet 2 points 3 years ago
I'd have plenty of questions about the VPN company though. Some of these would be the same as ISPs, some worse for VPN companies.
- do we know if they're compromised by our government or a foreign government?
- Are their systems actually secure?
- do they explicitly share data with a government, like they may be forced to?
- do they sell data and just lie about it?
- do they actually log data and lie about not logging or deleting it?
- what if they do something like an exit scam where it turns out they did collect all your info, and then sell it before they close up shop?
howrar 1 point 3 years ago
Legitimate questions, but why would it be worse for VPN companies?
The way I see it, I have no way of verifying the answers to any of these regardless of whether it's an ISP or a VPN, but I do know that VPNs have a greater incentive to provide you with proper privacy because if they were found to fail at this, the entire business dies. ISPs run no such risk, especially since many of them are effectively monopolies.
FarLine99 4 points 3 years ago
Because HTTPS protects only things you do on the site. ISP still knows which sites you connect to. Which YouTube video you are watching to. etc. F.E. in Russia ISP's have to keep logs of users interactions for half of year and give it to government when they need them.
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BlackEco 4 points 3 years ago
ISP still knows which sites you connect to.
Yes, because they know the IPs your packets go to, but if there are multiple websites behind a single IP they won't know which one (unless you use your ISP DNS server, which you should probably not)
Which YouTube video you are watching to. etc.
No, because the URL is contained within the HTTP packets which are encrypted with SSL (the S in HTTPS), so unless the ISP does MiM, they cannot know which URL you are visiting.
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KitsuneHaiku 2 points 3 years ago
Because my ISP stopped my internet access last time they were contacted by a copyright holder whose thing I torrented.
forvirreth 5 points 3 years ago
Got Express right before they sold. Going to swap very soon! Mainly looking at proton for the swap
GnuLinuxDude 3 points 3 years ago
The protonmail case has little to do with how they log records of protonvpn.
long_duck 1 point 3 years ago
Well they changed the IP logging policy of protonmail on a dime, so who's to say that they won't change their VPN's policy? They just don't have as good of a track record as people seem to think around here.
Jonsk 4 points 3 years ago
Of course it's dissapointing that protonmail did this, although i wouldn't say that the policy was changed "on a dime", as it said that ip logging was not "on by default"^[1]^. But while dissapointing, i can imagine courts pressuring Proton to start ip logging since it's easier rather than, say, change the entire backend to not encrypt the emails anymore. But to be fair i would say that if your threat model might include the government somehow, you should probably not trust any service with sensitive details like your ip. But as protonmail does what it sets out to do (encrypt your emails + some more) and as there aren't too many alternatives exept maybe tutanota, i think i'll stick with it. As for the VPN, it's open source^[2]^^[3]^^[4]^ (atleast the clients, I don't know about the server), but as I don't know how to audit code, take that with a grain of salt. And it does semi-regular(?) audits, although the last ones seem to be from 2019(?)^[3]^ and a penetration test (or maybe it was an audit, doesnt seem like it though) from 2021^[5]^^[6]^. But they said that they're planning an audit in the next months. ^[7]^.
Sources: ^[1]^https://arstechnica.com/...
^[2]^https://github.com/ProtonVPN
^[3]^https://protonvpn.com/blog/open-source/
^[4]^https://itsfoss.com/protonvpn-open-source/
^[5]^https://drive.proton.me/...
^[6]^https://proton.me/community/open-source
^[7]^https://www.reddit.com/...
Additional sources: https://proton.me/...
Please tell me if i got something wrong, i'd be happy to fix any issues
Edit: formatting issues and added back the start and the end that was removed
GnuLinuxDude 4 points 3 years ago
But the point is what Swiss law is. They cannot be compelled by a court order to log data for their VPN service, but they can be compelled by a court order to log email accesses. This needs to be considered by users of Proton, and indeed it is a bad mark against them that this wasn't clear upfront before the French activist case.
I'm not saying all this to defend Proton, really. I don't even use their service anymore, but I did use the vpn for 3 years without incident.
Steveanonymous 5 points 3 years ago
I don’t see nord on this list. Can someone tell me why the others listed are better?
BiggestBulb 5 points 3 years ago
I also use Nord. I think it's fine, but self-hosted and open would be better (since you for SURE know what data is passing through and what is happening with it). With Nord it's like a "trust me bro" black box.
That said, I trust Nord enough for my needs. I don't do anything too secretive on the VPN and frankly I think the 80/20 is in favor of just using Nord over self-hosting (I don't really have time for that).
LonelyWendigo 1 point 3 years ago
Self hosting a VPN isn't going to help hide traffic from your ISP though. Even if you "self host" on a cloud instance or rack elsewhere, you've still got ISPs there who will see all your traffic. Unless there's some other magic implied that I've overlooked?
zwekihoyy 1 point 3 years ago
yes but you are shifting your trust from your current isp to a different, hopefully more trustworthy, one. there is always trust somewhere in the line. it also gives the benefit of location spoofing for the destination site.
crowd blending is a valuable aspect of commercial vpns but isn't the only aspect that makes a VPN of value.
stevedidWHAT 1 point 3 years ago
This
Steveanonymous 1 point 3 years ago
Thanks for the answer. I just use it for torrenting and it’s convenient
itchy_lizard 16 points 3 years ago
Because my ISP is in a country where they can legally sell my data. My VPN is not.
And my VPN provider doesn't know who I am.
RVMWSN 4 points 3 years ago
I used to have Mullvad but it recently disabled portforwarding-support. Now I ditched it in favor of Proton since I already had a Proton subscription running. I am still looking out for a VPN that supports portforwarding though, in a way that a non-tech-savvy person like myself can run it on Linux. No idea where and how to do that now.
britishblaze 1 point 3 years ago
Heard that AirVPN has better port forwarding support which could be an option.
ScoobyDoo27 4 points 3 years ago
I use adguard VPN. I got 5 years for really cheap and it integrates well with adguard DNS blocking on my phone.
jkmooney 3 points 3 years ago
I've been trying running a VPN on my phone as a matter of course lately (Proton). I'm assuming it not only keeps your ISP from knowing where you're going but, more importantly, advertisers and trackers as well.
.
....or do I have that last bit wrong?
o_oli 2 points 3 years ago
Oh its not like Nord is bad in fact it ranks very well also on that front too but its not why I swapped I guess. I would highly recommend Nord.
https://thatoneprivacysite.xyz/...
For example it ranks better there than PIA does which is very popular.
RunningInRVA 2 points 3 years ago
I would note that this list hasn’t been updated in 4 years. How did they gather these rankings exactly? The green/yellow/red categorizations could use some context as well.
FarLine99 2 points 3 years ago
Way better source for information about VPNs. https://www.techlore.tech/vpn
einfach_orangensaft 3 points 3 years ago
I cant speak for what nord actually offers but i will never use them cause the marketing they did was very agressive and very missleading. Also leaks.
faintwhenfree 3 points 3 years ago
VyprVPN. I'm late to the party, but I've spoken to the founder a couple of occasions, he seemed like a guy that really just wants to provide no nonsense VPN. Its not the best or fastest service, and I don't need VPN for everything, but for whatever I need, it's cheap and it's privacy friendly.
MNLFNUT8YG 4 points 3 years ago
Add SurfShark also to that list.
Forwhombagles 1 point 3 years ago
Why?
MNLFNUT8YG 1 point 3 years ago
Look at this YouTube vid. https://youtu.be/8MHBMdTBlok
Curlyshrew 2 points 3 years ago
TrackerControl for my android and then the router configured to use NordVPN for specific devices.
Allows me to not only allow and block telemetry and tracking for specific applications at a device level but also route traffic how I want to.
ryannathans 2 points 3 years ago
PIA is the cheapest that supports port forwarding. But it's not to hide from ISP, it's mostly for content unblocking
MSugarhill 2 points 3 years ago
Long time Mullvad, now AirVPN
MSugarhill 3 points 3 years ago
Mullvad stopped port forwarding. AirVPN gave me more ports than I'd ever need. New accounts get 5 ports.
Ah, and it has a very granular ad blocking and malicious sites blocking option.
amanneedsamaid 1 point 3 years ago
Used to use Proton, now use Torguard.
amanneedsamaid 2 points 3 years ago
Because I never got very good speeds from Proton VPN, and the feature parity has never been very consistent especially because I use Linux. I get much better speeds from Torguard and they allow port forwarding, and have an overall much more feature rich Linux client. I still subscribe to and recommend Proton, I just don't use their VPN or password manager.
ryannathans 1 point 3 years ago
Expensive!
amanneedsamaid 0 points 3 years ago
If you mean Torguard, they're actually extremely cheap if you don't care about streaming compatibility. Using an affiliate link gets you 50% off.
ryannathans 3 points 3 years ago
50% off torguard is still insanely expensive
DrChickenbeer 1 point 3 years ago
@FarLine99 I use Vyper, but I'll be honest, I don't know much about VPNs other than the basics.
pewgar_seemsimandroid 1 point 3 years ago
calyxvpn
throws_lemy 1 point 3 years ago
None, I only use anti DPI and dnscrypt-proxy since our govt told ISPs to sniff internet connection using DPI
HurlingDurling 1 point 3 years ago
What about nord vpn? Is it still good?
HurlingDurling 1 point 3 years ago
Really? Can I ask why? I've been using them for both and had no issues that I've seen, but if they have some flaws in privacy I would like to know what they are.
oxf 3 points 3 years ago
Yes, correct.
I've done a lot of digging, and the only concern I've found is that the company is somehow connected to PureVPN.
I'm not paranoid, so for me this is fine. Take your own threat model into consideration.
Funnily enough, Ivacy knows basically nothing about me, since I bought the offer through a 3rd party site. I have nothing registered on my Ivacy account, aside from my email and password.
SmoothSurfer 0 points 3 years ago
Self hosted
SmoothSurfer 1 point 3 years ago
My mistake, sorry. I should have also said on a vps.
SmoothSurfer 1 point 3 years ago
For every single way that you may be using to reach out the internet, there will always going to be an exit node which won't be able to hide out itself. You may still use ssl or whatever you want (cant think of anything else that widely used) to encrypt the connection, as you normally do on your computer every time like you try to reach out a server with https. But I still take some actions that are not being encrypted between me and other side which I don't want to be related with me. So basically, I don't want some of my traffic to be exposed to ISP or any possible other threat. In order to provide that, I find a vps provider which has enough internet traffic to not use ISP to access internet(like many big tech companies do), and buy a vps from there anonymously(of course my ip is being exposed here but it is also being exposed on other vpn services and I am not doing something that important to make my ip so much important to hide). Afterwards I setup a wireguard or openvpn (depends on your needs) server and connect it from my pc. Which basically works like a vpn service that many people subscribe.
As far as I can see(if I am not mistaken somewhere), if you have a problem with this kind of protocol, then you have a problem with vpn services itself. And if you have a problem with that, and need more anonymity, you can connect to a public wifi and then a vpn and then a distributed network like tor.
ThisGuyRye -1 points 3 years ago
I use google one VPN. Its included with the extra storage plan I pay for. I'm curious how it compares to the other services as it's the only one I have used.
KrimsonBun 3 points 3 years ago
Very private indeed
MonkderZweite -3 points 3 years ago
Wireguard.
possiblylinux127 -6 points 3 years ago
vpn's are not what you think. They just more your traffic somewhere else. Honestly just use https only and you'll be fine
possiblylinux127 -2 points 3 years ago
They don't though unless your not using https for some reason
Carrot4016 1 point 3 years ago
They do hide your "real" IP address from other peers when using BitTorrent, such that angry letters from copyright holders go to the VPN instead of your ISP. The assumption is that your ISP would be more likely to snitch on you when compared to a reputable VPN.
possiblylinux127 0 points 3 years ago
The VPN company is legally required to report you just as much as your ISP
Carrot4016 1 point 3 years ago
That's true, but you can hope they don't keep logs, or hope they don't know your identity.
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