Florida teacher loses job for calling student by ‘preferred’ name

a year ago by return2ozma to c/news

Thousands are signing a petition to try to help a teacher get her job back at Satellite High School. Brevard Public Schools said it isn’t renewing Melissa Calhoun’s contract for next year because she called a student by the name they wanted to be called by, not their legal name.
PunnyName 252 points a year ago

I remember when I was in school and teachers would ask each kid on day 1 how they would prefer to be named. This was in the 80s and 90s. In Texas.

There was nothing wrong with it then, nor is there anything wrong with it now.

What has changed is the vitriol and hate that has erupted against our trans brothers and sisters.

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dohpaz42 79 points a year ago

I spent my entire 9th grade (1991) as Kevin. My name is not, nor resembles, Kevin. 🤷‍♂️

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pipe01 49 points a year ago

Sure thing, Kevin

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dohpaz42 40 points a year ago

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whostosay 13 points a year ago

Shut up kevin

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DarkDarkHouse 5 points a year ago

Kevin, you're such a disease

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AtariDump 3 points a year ago

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PunnyName 11 points a year ago

Such a Kevin thing to say.

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Cocodapuf 6 points a year ago

That's so Kevin...

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dohpaz42 3 points a year ago

Banana.

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atzanteol 31 points a year ago

I ask everybody what they prefer to be called and how they pronounce it if it's not clear to me. It's just polite.

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floofloof 18 points a year ago

It’s just polite.

And so MAGAs hate it. Politeness is weakness! Be rude and hostile always!

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frunch 9 points a year ago

But also never ever insult them! They have feelings too, ya know ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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HK65 18 points a year ago

My stereotypical old guy class teacher in rural Hungary who was a local prominent party member of Orbán's party and a devout Christian had no problems with that either.

This has never been a problem.

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expatriado 13 points a year ago

this could be the backstory of your username, my name is Barry Cuda ms Roberts

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IamSparticles 6 points a year ago

Absolutely. Until I was in my 20s everyone I knew referred to me by a nickname. Everyone I've known since before that time still does. The only purpose behind this is to target a vulnerable group for cruelty.

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partial_accumen 125 points a year ago

“She is irreplaceable, not only a good teacher, but significantly more importantly she is the kindest and most caring person I have ever met in my life,” one supporter commented.

"Kindness and caring have no place in the classroom" - conservatives probably

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SpaceNoodle 45 points a year ago

Conservatives, absolutely. They see empathy as a weakness.

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My_IFAKs___gone 22 points a year ago

Probably because the most powerful conservatives all got to grow up in abusive boarding schools that disfigured their souls, deleted their empathy, and taught them how to savagely bully their way into power, humanity be damned.

Source: Trailer for Boarding on Insanity

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Zahille7 18 points a year ago

My mom's (teacher) old boss (principal) literally told her that she shouldn't even know what the kids do after they leave school, basically saying she shouldn't care about the kids.

Like why the fuck else do you become a teacher?!

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Cold_Brew_Enema 5 points a year ago

But guns sure do!

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jordanlund 92 points a year ago

Well then, we need to fire every teacher who uses "Bob" instead of "Robert" or "Liz" instead of "Elizabeth" then. Only then will they realize how stupid this is.

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Nougat 28 points a year ago

"I can't talk to you; I don't know your middle name."

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catloaf 33 points a year ago

I? You? Pronouns??

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Archer 3 points a year ago

You’re right, Comrade

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BossDj 2 points a year ago

The BossDj agrees

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Cocodapuf 2 points a year ago

This one agrees with you. This one believes you are on to something.

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Ledericas 2 points a year ago

hello fellow human student.

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Omegamanthethird 19 points a year ago

I've known a lot of people who go by their middle names because their first name is a family name (who they hate). Like if you call them by their first name, it's the equivalent of dead naming.

Some of those people are anti-trans.

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AA5B 3 points a year ago

I can definitely imagine that: there were so many “James” in my family. Then again, my brothers middle name was much worse so that may be a reason he never tried

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ReallyActuallyFrankenstein 16 points a year ago

Yes, that is certainly an intellectually consistent way to handle it.

Unfortunately, these laws were always meant to be selectively enforced, making the only real rule that whatever feels wrong to these people in the moment is against the law.

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BossDj 3 points a year ago

The actual rule is that any nickname must be approved by the parent before able to be used by the teacher

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CileTheSane 9 points a year ago

Ya, but it's only going to be enforced for trans students.

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dota__2 8 points a year ago

you can't have a rational approach to this. these people love the hypocrisy. they bathe in it. wallow in like a pig in shit.

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jsomae 3 points a year ago

That may be what happened in this case.

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Zahille7 78 points a year ago

Jesus fucking Christ. When I was in middle school in the southern Midwest, on the first day of school I had the teachers straight up ask if anyone had a preferred name other than the one on their records. Unprompted. And no one gave a shit.

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Fredselfish 11 points a year ago

She have a fund we can donate too?

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themeatbridge 64 points a year ago

I think the worst part about this story is that you know that kid's parents are exactly the bigots you think they are, and now the child has learned a valuable lesson that they are completely alone, unloved, and no one will help them.

It's terrible that Florida is doing this to teachers, but it's worse for the kids.

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BossDj 14 points a year ago

This was my first thought, too. The kid found an advocate and a trusted person. So depressing

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brygphilomena 62 points a year ago

Teachers, like all employees, are expected to follow the law.

No. If a law is unjust and immoral it is the imperitive of everyone at the district to disobey it.

Just because it is law, does not make it right.

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RidderSport 7 points a year ago path: 0 16373439 16377112, hotness: undefined, score: 7, children: 0
inb4_FoundTheVegan 57 points a year ago

“Brevard Public Schools (BPS) was made aware that a teacher at Satellite High School had been referring to a student by a name other than their legal name, without parental permission when the parent reached out to us. This directly violates state law and the district’s standardized process for written parental consent.

“BPS supports parents’ rights to be the primary decision-makers in their children’s lives, and Florida law affirms their right to be informed.

Cruel, vindictive, inhumane and depraved control by the parents. The child is in danger and now knows that even trusted adults can't be trusted when their parents go digging. Without a doubt the child is being verbally abused for daring to control their own identity.

Disgusting law, disgusting people and disgusting country.

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Alien 49 points a year ago

Imagine if she said Palestinians deserve to live.

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Frozengyro 18 points a year ago

A monster like that should be dragged into the street and shot!

/s cause I'm certain there are real monsters who believe the above.

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catloaf 7 points a year ago

Yeah there's a bunch of them in the Knesset

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Rosscameron 45 points a year ago

So we’ve reached the point where calling someone what they want to be called can cost you your job. Imagine getting fired for basic human decency. 🤔

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FistingEnthusiast 33 points a year ago

America is a broken country

The worst thing though is that you spread your poison to the rest of the world too

There are cunts in many countries salivating at the opportunity to be cruel, and (wrongly) the world still looks at the US as an example

Decent people see it as a warning

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KnightontheSun 10 points a year ago

I agree America is broken and there are far too many broken people within its borders, but I’d have to state that Russia and Israel have also done a bang up job whipping up that poison.

The bonus is that they are working on that elsewhere too.

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Freshparsnip 33 points a year ago

Welcome to the regressive fascist regime

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TheThrillOfTime 31 points a year ago

So we can't call people "Jim" "Liz" "Bob" "Sam" anymore?

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kautau 17 points a year ago

Of course not. They are Jimothy, Lizothy, Bobothy, and Samothy, as was ordained by Christ himself

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MuskyMelon 4 points a year ago

Especially Bob. What kind of name is Bob? Is that what he does when he encounters a glory hole? Bob?

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RootAccess 26 points a year ago

Damn.

She should leave Gilead and join us up here in Canada. Staple the news article to her immigration paperwork. It's a badge of honour. How can you all have pride in a country that does this shit? Stay safe down there!

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Skydancer 8 points a year ago

Staple it to job applications too. I suspect many blue state and private schools would see it as a commendation.

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Ledericas 4 points a year ago

It's not great in blue areas either, just minus the sht like Florida is doing. But they are generally underpaid in general, in the west had a former coworker refuse a contract with a district because the pay is very low, like starting 25k in a 5-7year contract, and no choice of districts.

Private school are worst, you may or may not work some.weeks.

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yarr 26 points a year ago

Guys, everyone that read this, remember, Ted Cruz is his preferred name. His real name is Rafael. If you don't want to get in trouble, make sure to call him Rafael every chance you get.

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scroll_responsibly 5 points a year ago

Rafael Edward Cruz, the Canadian-American, US Senator.

It’s lowkey appropriate that he was born in Alberta.

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yarr 8 points a year ago

Another immigrant, taking senatorial jobs from hard-working Americans! Damn you, Rafael!

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j0ester 20 points a year ago

Just more reasons to never go to Florida again.

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motor_spirit 20 points a year ago
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IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol 3 points a year ago
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lmmarsano 18 points a year ago

In Florida, students have this one cool trick to get their teachers fired. Thanks, Florida!

Also, is that government punishing speech?

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DJKJuicy 17 points a year ago

Florida is purposefully trying to destroy it's own public school system. They make being a public school teacher so undesirable, and then complain about a "teacher shortage". Of course nobody wants to be a public school teacher in Florida. You can get fired for how you address someone?

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hopesdead 17 points a year ago

I go by my middle name. Not because I wanted to, but because that is what my immediate family chose. I became comfortable with it. So I decided in certain settings to let people use my first name.

99% of my extended family doesn’t know my first name. Some of them are teachers. If I had been in their class, they’d be in trouble. Fucking stupid law.

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Flocklesscrow 5 points a year ago

Fucking stupid law state

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Puzzlehead 15 points a year ago

I wonder if this law was written to target transgender students but instead it's now affecting cis gender kids who can't go by their nick name any more and now teachers are losing their jobs for using nick names on their students they prefer.

Transphobia also affects cis people just like how homophobia can affect straight people because they recieve harassment if they're mistaken as gay like how my brother faced racism by his math teacher because she thought he was Native.

This would be leopards eating faces if the teacher voted this in and the parents who are protesting.

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djsoren19 11 points a year ago

Knew a straight guy who got beaten almost to death because two fascist chuds thought he was gay. Only survived because one of his buddies at the gig he was working that night noticed he didn't make it back to the hotel after, could have easily just bled out overnight over nothing. When you decide to amplify hateful and violent ideology, it creates a hateful and violent world.

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Phoenicianpirate 13 points a year ago

Great. Now nicknames will be illegal. No more Max or Jim or Bill. It's either Maximillian or James or you're fired (and no one cares about poor ol' Bill).

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anomnom 12 points a year ago

2 of the 14 kids in my sons class go by different names and have since kindergarten. They aren’t trans gender, they just use different names from the ones on the registration forms and birth certificates.

His is it any different. Also goddamn nicknames should be outlawed. That state is so fucked it’s not even funny anymore.

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RBWells 10 points a year ago

I only have one data point but my kid's teachers (high school) have always both called my kid their preferred name and pronouns. I did get "the letter" this year to send back saying it was ok. Ridiculous.

This is just such a mess, why oh why.

What I really and truly can't understand are the parents. How can you be THAT controlling? What do they think it's going to accomplish?

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SabinStargem 2 points a year ago

For some, children are slaves or photocopies of themselves. To be anything else, is an insult.

Exhibit A: Musk, and how he reacted to Vivian Wilson.

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j0ester 9 points a year ago

Just when I thought Florida couldn’t get any dumber… damn, was I wrong.

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AmazingAwesomator 6 points a year ago

if a teacher pulls an angry freudian slip and yells at you, but calls you by the regular classroom troublemaker's name by mistake, they can get fired?

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synae 5 points a year ago

Bart, no!

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Duamerthrax 6 points a year ago

Are teachers in Florida now required to call each student by their full legal name every time?

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IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol 6 points a year ago
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D_C 2 points a year ago

No, not bow as in "bow and arrow". It's bow as in "bow down and kiss my feet, little bitch!"
When you look at it in the right context it is a perfect name for him.

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Ledericas 3 points a year ago

Maybe a "bowjob",

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RustyShackleford 1 point a year ago
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