I'm just loving the fact a fucking tank has better visibility then a few of those trucks

I think it's an error. It's should likely be Nissan Quashqai. Or Hyundai ix35/Tucson.

Nissan builds the Qashqai. Source I am an owner. Nissan also used to build ford Mavericks in the 90's.

The Qashqai is now a Nissan Kicks.

The Nissan Qashqai is the Nissan Rogue, and I think it's what's shown in the drawing

Au contraire. We Americans think easily in both Imperial and SI. In terms of units we’re bilingual. It’s you 10-10-10 types whose brains have been scrambled by your over-easy conversions and estimates.

Excuse me ladies. Just thought I’d mention I ahem don’t have any vehicle all.

I've pivoted. I don't think it's the size of the penis. Plenty of people with below average penises are great in bed and their partners are happy.

The people who feel the need to compensate know they are weak and cowardly and would never stand up for themselves against anyone stronger than them. And it emasculates them so they feel the need to compensate outwardly to other men. "I'm big and strong and tough!" In reality they'd back down from any other person, authority figure, or institution that they didn't feel like could beat or bully.

Always has

Nothing wrong with having a small penis. Definitely some things wrong with the way people choose to compensate for their insecurities. Such is life.

Don't forget the Freedom™ zoning laws that make sure it's illegal for any American to build any filthy communist multi-family homes on their own private property! It's communist to grant private citizens freedom and property rights!

When I found out about this after Climate Town's video on the subject, I was so furious!!!!

Doesn’t most of that come from taxes on fuel?

In particular, emissions standards are tied to vehicle size

this definitely goes on the short list of "most idiotic laws ever", courtesy of your local car industry lobbyist

the difference between regulation and jokes passed off as regulations

And the Hilux isn't available in the US. I use one as my daily driver. Seats four, has a useable bed, hauls anything I throw at it, gets car MPGs, and is narrower than a Camry. It is as much pickup truck as pretty much anyone really needs.

The problem is that the regulations drop off in this one particular niche that requires/encourages larger vehicles, not that the regulations exist in the first place.

I hope someone said "You can't park there mate" to him.

Imagine that thing coming down one of the many narrow hedge lined country lanes at you.

Whoops, that was me for a while because I was too stubborn to sell it before moving to England. It mostly sat in the driveway because it was such a pain to park anywhere and wouldn't fit through the garage door. I've since shipped it back to the Southwestern US where it's average sized.

I saw a person driving an OG (civilian) hummer when I was in Japan several months ago. The juxtapositions between it and a sea of kei cars was hilarious.

It is crazy and undermining years of progress towards reduced emissions and better road safety. I have no idea why these don't attract a massive tax.

I'm seeing more and more large vehicles in Japan. I don't think it will become an issue as much as it is in the West due to less car dependency, small roads and the weak yen making fuel rather expensive right now, but just around Kyoto I keep seeing those stupid Mercedes G Wagon things and some kind of large Jeep all over the place. There is also a large Toyota Land Cruiser thing that I see from time to time, but it's less popular.

Smaller car SUVs are fairly common though, and just the other day a friend drove me to a barbeque in his SUV thing that he got to replace his perfectly fine and nice previous car. It seemed really unwieldy on many of the country roads he was driving, and he frequently had to pull over to the side of the road in order to pass cars coming the other way. When I asked about it, he said he got it because he often has to drive business customers around, so he mostly just thinks having a stupid big car looks classy and respectable.

That was an interesting read. I'm from Europe and unfortunately the trend of bigger and bigger cars has made it's way here too. Not as much as in the US but still. It really encroaches on both space of pedestrians and cyclists when a dozen of them are parked in a narrow alley/street. Also makes it very hard to see children weaving through the gaps. I think consumer vehicles that are too big should simply be zoned out in inner cities where space is limited as is. Every year the cars grow bigger but the streets stay the same.

that's a weird way of phrasing "the industry took advantage of regulatory capture to carve out a loophole for larger trucks"

I call them "pavement princesses" since they're driven by office types most often who have no interest in offroading, which is the original intended use for lifted rigs. They're all rich sissies that want a giant truck for taking their fifth wheel to the lake because they're scared of driving a bus

And even still, if you're not looking for 4 doors you're doubly SOL. You can have the fleet vehicle, poverty-spec or you can have crew cabs.

Again, proof that more regulation is the root cause.

Even the new Tacoma is still smaller than those F-150 monstrosities. The only other small pickup other than the Maverick is the Santa Cruz, but it isn't really a utility truck if you actually need to haul a ton of stuff.

When this thing finally dies...

...you swap a replacement engine into it and keep going anyway.

I use my truck for hauling stuff and camping.

For hauling big is objectively better. Without a doubt.

And for camping it’s nice that I can sleep in the 6.5 foot bed of my truck with the camper on it, and also fit my camping supplies in the back seat of my full sized cab. I only put maybe 300 miles a month on it. So it’s not like I’m driving it as my primary. But yes, it’s huge.

Driving to the coast, pointing the back of my truck toward the ocean, and laying in the comfy queen sized bed with a roof and windows, reading a book, with my my wife is one of my favorite weekend activities. And having the instant privacy is very nice.

My other car is a tiny Honda. Which is great for everything else.

Already the shortages have subsided, I can find Mavericks on the lot for $25,000 now. Slightly desirable cars from all manufacturers that released during the shortages are now generally easy to find/order if you really want one.

In fact, there seems to be a glut of the various models right now. Dealers lots that were practically empty last year are now overflowing with the cars that people were backordering like crazy. A dealer near me got too used to selling all the expensive models they now have mostly $70k+ models on the lot and seem to be stuck unable to sell them anymore.

Toyota Stout is on the way. It should be the same size as the old Tacomas.

Exactly. I wanted a pickup for the convenience of the bed for the occasional project I might work on but 98% of the time it will just be me in there going to and from work.

I ordered my hybrid Maverick September 2022 and it's finally scheduled for production. On the one occasion every year or two that I need the power of a full size pickup, I'll just borrow it or rent some from Home Depot for a few hours.

youu know it might have been. I don't really know the vehicle. it was the "smaller" one outside of the original behometh.

Yeah, my student is forever 8 and a shortie for their age. They were crossing in a crosswalk and the driver was turning right. It’s not the same.

If you don't want people stepping into the road then stop putting roads everywhere. They built a road in between my home and work and I hate it, I want to get rid of the road and go back to the good old days.

I hope you are more careful in the future

Yep, that's it exactly!

It's not that simple. In the US at least it's more of a case of standards that created an accidental loophole, which could have been closed quickly, but because car manufacturers found it so profitable they have fought ever since to keep the rules from being revised. When the original cafe standards were passed trucks were actual utilitarian vehicles and CAFE did a lot to raise average mileage. It's time to stop exempting trucks and SUVs.

Are you saying government regulation as it is now is a problem, or are you suggesting that in a truly free market the car companies would stop making giant trucks despite it being their bestseller?

You're partly right. The implementation of government regulation is a problem. Lawmakers are, for the most part, absolutely incompetent when it comes to making effective regulation.

It is, but largely because money in politics and regulatory capture have made the machine work against the people.

It is always a problem.

When the mods of this sublemmy were deciding the rules, I asked some clarifying points to ensure the rules wouldn't have unintended consequences. Someone yelled at me and said I should just assume good intentions and that the mods would never ban anyone who meant well.

Absolute blind trust in even the smallest authority. Nobody's perfect.

40 cents per gallon, aka fuck all.

Cool. Let's do another for commercial vehicles and apply it to global warming.

"pickup truck" is the term that refers to them. It's pretty unambiguous I think.

Truck is just slang for pickup truck. Ute as a term isn't really a thing in the US. Coup utilities like an El Camino or Subaru Baja feel pretty distinct from modern American pickups though. It'd be weird to put them in the same category given how different they are in both form and function.

Ute used to refer to a 2 door vehicle with a bed based on a car chassis. Traditional utes are dying out even in Australia and New Zealand.

The American term "pickup truck" is a better term for these new vehicles built on their own oversized "light truck" chassis.

Freight hauling industrial vehicles

Those are semis.

Every time I read these kinds of arguments, my eyes are rolling backwards.

Fuck cars in cities. Yes. But what is about the country side?

What is about the farmer, producing our food, who is depended on a private car to reach the next city? Should he move into the city? And then? What do we eat? Mass produced meat?

What about shift workers in smaller cities?

Not everyone has access to Public transport all the time.

What is about people with disabilities?

Or neurodivergent people? I for my part are on the autistic spectrum. While I can travel shorter times with Public transport, long train rides are a serious problem. To many people and no control over breaks. And there are other people on the spectrum, that have it far worse then me in that regards.

There are many cases, where personal transport via car is the only viable option.

You argument is from a privileged point of view. A privilege that not all people have. Be able to use public transport.

If we want to be taken seriously, we must see the reality, and accept limitations.

And just for completeness: while I would love to have more then 2 busses a day to the next village, and a direct connection to the next train station, i also see that this would be not only a financial issue for the provider, it would also produce much more co2 then the individual transport that it would eliminate. Low passenger count but high vehicle frequency are a bad combination.

Them's fighting words unless you include "bike-ish things" in that bike category.

My PEVs take up less space than my bike and work much better with public transit.

They are still separate terms describing different types of cars

So do semitrucks, that doesn't mean they're the same thing. Btw I'm pretty sure visibility from most SUVs is significantly better than from an average pickup.

I won't say they deserve it, but if your idiot kids are sitting in a row on the driveway when a truck is trying to park, they might just deserve it.

A lot of cars do have pedestrian detection these days. Even lower end cars like Toyota Corollas have pedestrian detection as a standard feature. These pedestrian detection features automatically apply the brakes when it detects that you're about to hit someone.

Some of them do, and you can activate the cameras in a lot of cars at will that have front and side cameras. Some of them will auto-brake when going toward pedestrians.

Nothing beats also having actual visible sight line, and there's frequently no excuse for the terrible sight lines of modern high riding passenger vehicles, but pedestrian safety systems are available, and based on technology so cheap in the context of a $20,000+ vehicle that it probably should be mandated at this point.