Firefox, VLC, Gimp, KeePass, LibreOffice among open source software endorsed by French Government

a year ago by dwazou to c/technology

The full list:

https://code.gouv.fr/sill/list

themurphy 201 points a year ago

EU and its contries are pro open source and I fucking love it.

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anonApril2025 82 points a year ago

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spykee 55 points a year ago

.....and.....and I am going to find a European girl and suck her nipples for as long as she wants.

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rottingleaf 2 points a year ago

Any girl

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spykee 3 points a year ago

Condition 1 - it has to be a girl Condition 2 - she should be alive

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Pirata 31 points a year ago

Why hello there

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DJDarren 15 points a year ago

Bonjour!

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rob_t_firefly 2 points a year ago

Good day!

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UniversalBasicJustice 10 points a year ago

Fr if anyone in the EU wants to host me I'll be your (32m,pan,switch,cd) live-in maid while I job hunt. Please inquire within.

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IncogCyberspaceUser 4 points a year ago

Hallo

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UltraMasculine 4 points a year ago

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Jolteon 18 points a year ago

Haven't they also been trying to put back doors into everything for the last decade?

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themurphy 21 points a year ago

EU is democratic, which also means everyone can propose a law. Never have EU put a backdoor into anything, but its true that there have been law proposals for it.

Never voted through.

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rottingleaf -5 points a year ago

EU is not democratic. EU's ruling entities are formed by governments of member countries. Which are supposedly democratic.

And about never voted through - sometimes putting pressure is enough.

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unautrenom 7 points a year ago

EU Commission and Council are indeed not elected directly, but the Parliement who propose and vote laws is. The way it works is similar to a parlementary republic (where coalitions of parties that includes >50% of MEPs make a governement together).

It's as democratic as democratic gets on that scale.

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madame_gaymes 9 points a year ago

I wonder if we could get EU to take over some states if we got enough votes to secede in some areas.

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themurphy 9 points a year ago

EU could potentially make a group category like for Norway or Switzerland, and then take in other countries all around the world to cooperate more and stand together with the EU on some issues.

Canada would be a great candidate. Maybe even Australia, but I dont really know anything about their politics.

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MegaUltraChicken 7 points a year ago

Just make a cool kids UN and you're all set. With blackjack and hookers.

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blind3rdeye 9 points a year ago

It does kind of feel like the UN could use a refresh. In particular, the veto powers given to certain countries feels bad. There may be good reasons for that system, but the system is not good - and the details of the reasons have definitely shifted over time such that the choice of countries with veto power is now highly questionable.

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PattyMcB 4 points a year ago

No cocaine? Forget it, then

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dwazou 1 point a year ago

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dwazou 118 points a year ago

To be clear. This is a government agency endorsing the software as safe and effective. So bureaucrats and employees can't be reprimanded they use them.

This isn't the French Prime Minister announcing the country will cancel Microsoft Office subscriptions and build a fund to support FOSS projects. Gimp has nowhere near the ressources they actually need.

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Krukenberg 14 points a year ago

VIM..? Safe..?!

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addie 12 points a year ago

Once you start Vim, you don't even need to activate the lock screen when you leave your desk. Ain't no-one going to be using that machine for anything nefarious any more.

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mke 8 points a year ago

It's still nice! A bit of recognition, legitimacy, and although it's not funding, it might be a small step towards it. I see many great works, that stand tall on their own. More eyes will only make them shine even brighter.

Thanks, Fr*nce.

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kolorafa 57 points a year ago

😍 they know the good stuff

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Noja 26 points a year ago

Nobody should ever use the internet without uBlock Origin.

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theherk 9 points a year ago

Friends don’t let friends surf unprotected.

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Minizarbi 6 points a year ago

But also, I'd like we should be able to use internet without having to use uBlock Origin...

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pablodaniel 2 points a year ago

Agreed.

Advertising should be illegal.

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coldaf 3 points a year ago

Its super scary that there are many people not using it.

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zarkanian 4 points a year ago

Yeah, whenever I hear people complaining about ads, I'm like "You guys are seeing ads?!"

I could understand if you needed to be some 1337 hacker to block ads, but uBlock is one of the easiest extensions I've ever used. You just set it and forget it. There's zero configuration you need to do.

Of course, if there's some ad that slips past, then you need to do some hacking, but that almost never happens nowadays.

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pablodaniel 2 points a year ago

It's a cultural problem.

Most people won't install adblockers unless they're around others to tell/show them how.

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coldaf 2 points a year ago

I know the answer. People is lazy unless they have interest in it. Everybody wants happiness biologically but nobody makes a move to have it. People hate Windows, tries to remove Edge, make performance settings, use 3rd party awful things to improve Windows, but nobody gives any other OS a try. Same thing for the browsers, extensions like that etc. People think its matrix-ish and something weirdo. Who would use Matrix instead of Discord? Who would use any FF fork instead of Opera GX or Chrome? Who would use Lemmy and any ActivityPub media instead of Meta products or Reddit etc. We are full of prejudice, and dont want to move out from the comfort zone. We dont want to make a important choice for our privacy-safety unless it become viral in TikTok.

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blind3rdeye 41 points a year ago

The full list: https://code.gouv.fr/sill/list

Hold on. That page does not list VLC or KeePass. Is there more info about this other than the list? Or is the info in the title of this post incorrect?

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I see now. The page does not list VLC or KeePass, but those two both do come up if you put them into the search box. The software listed on the page is a very long list, but it is apparently on the 'most popular' stuff - not the entire list. (Although it is strange to see a heap of niche stuff, and stuff I've never heard of on the 'most popular' list while VLC doesn't make the cut.)

I'm not sure this list is a very strong endorsement by the French Government. It seems to just be listing free software options, and then asking other people to sign up to say which ones they use.

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Appoxo 8 points a year ago

Probably due to it being a media player vs a list of productivity apps?
I feel like most would forget about VLC until they notice the traffic cone is missing.

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CancerMancer 2 points a year ago

Using the find function on my phone browser doesn't find it but it does come up when manually scrolling and as long as you don't move too far the find works. I'm thinking there is some sort of rendering magic going on, would explain why scrolling is so fast.

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gap_betweenus 36 points a year ago

An open source package that would replace adobe would be a game changer.

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goldfndr 14 points a year ago

Which Adobe?

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BlushedPotatoPlayers 14 points a year ago

The building style?

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RememberTheApollo_ 7 points a year ago

Someone’s been living in a cave.

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AnUnusualRelic 11 points a year ago

That can replace adobe, well done!

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FenderStratocaster 13 points a year ago

Gimp/inkscape

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zarkanian 1 point a year ago

I wonder how Scribus is doing these days.

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FenderStratocaster 1 point a year ago

Never got into that one

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u_u 11 points a year ago

I would sacrifice my first unborn kid for this.

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rob_t_firefly 21 points a year ago

I would also sacrifice your first unborn kid for this.

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u_u 6 points a year ago

Truly the spirit of FOSS

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meliaesc -5 points a year ago

People really would rather sacrifice their unborn child than pay $20 a month smh.

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sugar_in_your_tea 5 points a year ago

Why not? OP probably got a vasectomy, so there's no chance that unborn son is happening anyway...

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nomy 6 points a year ago

Unethical LPT: Get a vasectomy then offer your firstborn child for material gain as often as you like knowing they can never collect.

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Novocirab 2 points a year ago

Worth noting: Affinity, while not open-source, can be brought to run under Linux. This may be helpful for people wanting to ditch Windows.

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LiveLM 1 point a year ago

Does it run well? Ps under Wine is a laggy and unstable mess

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Novocirab 2 points a year ago

I can't help with personal experience unfortunately. I think some (a lot?) of people are satisfied, but one does need some tech skills to get it up and running.

Instructions are out there in various github repos, some of them also link to volunteer support channels.

Or instructions in German here: https://linux-content.org/...

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didibear 1 point a year ago

Krita ?

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Aatube 32 points a year ago

Redis is also on the list, but not Valkey. Gitea is on the list, but not Forgejo. Still nice to see governments endorsing the open-source-ish software they know and FOSS principles, though!

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madame_gaymes 13 points a year ago

I imagine the list will be dynamic. Those projects might be on a list somewhere, just haven't been vetted yet by their standards. Start with the source projects, then dive through the forks.

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Tja 4 points a year ago

To be fair, I know redis and gitea (barely, gitlab is way more popular) and not the other two. Enterprise support and name recognition are quite important for government usage.

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Aatube 2 points a year ago

Valkey was created recently as Redis changed their license, having clauses which made the user choose between being “discriminatory against users of the software that use proprietary software within their stack, as the license requires the open-sourcing of every part interacting with the service, which under these circumstances might not be possible” or being non-commercial. Forgejo was created when Gitea decided to go the JetBrains route a few years ago. It’s since absorbed Gitea’s clout.

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CancerMancer 2 points a year ago

The simple answer: nobody is actually reading any of these licenses. I run into the problem constantly and even people who should know better do not (most of our IT staff for example...)

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Tja 1 point a year ago

Redis allows a third option, a commercial license.

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Aatube 1 point a year ago

Yeah, and you have to pay for that. Lots of open source software have enterprise support and usage limit licenses but having to pay for something isn't open source. I am personally ambivalent at non-commercial licenses but I agree that the restriction against using proprietary software with Redis in commercial usage is kinda bad.

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asymmetric 31 points a year ago

Do they also fund these projects?

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Mouette 26 points a year ago

They are not only no funding but largely not using it in practice and letting most public institution spent billions in Microsoft Office 365 contract

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Appoxo 13 points a year ago

Probably a lot like the actual users of (F)OSS: Not really :p

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bradd 29 points a year ago

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pablodaniel 8 points a year ago

It's good for the US, too.

Americans don't have to live under the bootheels of corporations.

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Valmond 29 points a year ago

That's kind of quote cool for a government to do IMO.

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yucandu 22 points a year ago

The "english" setting does nothing.

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pyre 80 points a year ago

just the way the French like it

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NotJohnSmith 10 points a year ago

If they really want to boil our piss, put "English (American)" as the only option. Or or, a little American flag next to "English". Oo, I'm engaging myself right now.

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Kuma 6 points a year ago

It changes the UI text of the website, such as filters, titles, and sorting options, but not the descriptions.

I can't decide which is worse, a functioning language switch that never included English for the descriptions (which is the only text I actually need translated) or a broken language switch. The way it switches languages is also quite odd, as if it's asking, 'Are you sure?'"

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twen 21 points a year ago

The SILL About page translated explains the list :

https://code.gouv.fr/sill/readme

Why this catalog?

The socle interministériel de logiciels libres (SILL) is the reference catalog of open-source software recommended by the French government for use throughout the administration.

This catalog helps administrations find their way around the open-source software they are encouraged to use, in line with Article 16 of the French Law for a Digital Republic

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Brkdncr 18 points a year ago

The first thing any government should do is move away from ms office.

The 2nd thing they should do is fund and contribute to a distro and begin the transition from windows.

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SabinStargem 16 points a year ago

Hopefully the French will also endorse Fedora, Red Hat, and Valve's SteamOS. Microsoft is a huge security issue, since it isn't clear whether MS would bend to DOGE's whims. The NLRB and other aspects of the US government had DOGE set up accounts, which were accessed within 15 minutes by Russia.

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Appoxo 9 points a year ago

Why RedHat? I thought it's a bad version of Linux and generally disliked (similar to Broadcom and ESXi).
Why not prefer something based on Debian. As it's being regarded as very stable I don't feel like it would interfere with the employees daily job as they don't need a cutting edge distro like arch.

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InverseParallax 9 points a year ago

So, I love Debian, and it's an excellent distro.

But personally something like suse makes more sense, it's more user friendly and is so German it's painful.

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sugar_in_your_tea 2 points a year ago

Can confirm, I use openSUSE and it's glorious. AFAIK, they don't accept donations, but they probably would from someone like the French government.

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InverseParallax 2 points a year ago

It has some wobbly bits, but it really exposes the most powerful parts of linux.

And it's still somehow more user friendly than basically anything else in linux. Or windows for that matter.

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sugar_in_your_tea 2 points a year ago

Or why not SUSE? I forget who owns it now, but at least for a while it was owned by an EU firm.

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SabinStargem 2 points a year ago

Linux isn't very good for the casual person at this time, due to conflicting, dated, or missing documentation. If people are to be encouraged to adopt Linux, it should be toward distributions that have official technical support.

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johnnyb 10 points a year ago

are you suggesting there is documentation for Windows?

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Appoxo 3 points a year ago

It's sufficiently documented.
It's just spread across a fuck load of different pages (learn vs. msdn vs. support vs forum).
And the articles are so unnecessary distributed across those pages. And so much articles are missing links to related topics that it's comically bad.

At least the powershell has a partly sound documentation. But very hit or miss.

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Auli 7 points a year ago

Regular people don't read documentation.

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rottingleaf 6 points a year ago

due to conflicting, dated, or missing documentation.

Oh, let's all use FreeBSD then. Please? Please?

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sugar_in_your_tea 1 point a year ago

Isn't that the point of donating to it? If the French government wants a specific thing done (say, documentation), they can make the donation go towards that.

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SabinStargem 1 point a year ago

Ideally, that would be part of their initiative. There are multiple angles that can be taken to encourage Linux adoption. Standards for formal documentation and technical support options are two prongs on the same trident.

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Litebit 7 points a year ago

on another note.. Microsoft export their software and OS to almost every one of our users' pc while US doesn't buy any of our OS. Using Trump logic of fairness, we need to tariff US, to balance the trade deficit.

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sugar_in_your_tea 6 points a year ago

Why Steam OS? It does what it sets out to do, and probably makes Valve a ton of money.

Donations should go to projects that need it. Valve seems to be doing fine.

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SabinStargem 3 points a year ago

Making an OS easy to use in everyday life is the key to mass adoption. If the EU wants to get away from Microsoft's garden, that means advertising valid options to people who aren't attuned to Linux.

Money isn't the issue for SteamOS, it is awareness and making it available as an pre-installed option on consumer PCs. The EU could create standardized pamphlets about Fedora, Red Hat, and SteamOS, mandating stores to present that digestable information to consumers so that they know what flavor is best for their usecase.

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sugar_in_your_tea 2 points a year ago

I don't see any reason to have SteamOS preinstalled on anything other than a Steam Deck or Steam Machine. Valve is only motivated to ship what it needs to run games, it has no motivation to make a general purpose OS.

That's why projects like Fedora, Debian, and openSUSE have value, they are motivated to make a general purpose OS. The difference between those and Steam OS for running Steam games is minimal, and the overall experience on those distributions will be better.

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SabinStargem 1 point a year ago

There IS reason for preinstallation, there are many people out there who lack the passion to research Linux, and would gravitate towards the familiar - Steam, in the case of gamers. The point is to make a switch away from Windows as unproblematic for as many people as possible. Also, Valve is developing a desktop version of Arch SteamOS.

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primemagnus 13 points a year ago

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letzlo 16 points a year ago

Firefox offers a real alternative to chrome derivatives. I think it’s what we need to go for too.

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primemagnus 3 points a year ago

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viking 3 points a year ago

You could use LibreWolf on Linux, it's a Firefox fork that removes all DRM, telemetry and other privacy-disrespecting crap from the og Firefox. All native addons/plugins are fully supported.

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LifeInMultipleChoice 1 point a year ago

I started using Cromite with OpenXNG as my search engine and it's been good. A de-googled chromium essentially with built in privacy/ad blockers.

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veniasilente 7 points a year ago

Well, that's just about as good news as can be in the current tech climate, in particular considering programs like VLC and KeePass are getting this visibility.

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thatradomguy 6 points a year ago

Once upon a time, there was Glimpse project—which for me was a nice enhancement to vanilla GIMP. They sadly kicked the bucket but damn not a day goes by where I don't miss them...

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Lumiluz 5 points a year ago

Better name too

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Gammelfisch 6 points a year ago

DuckDuckGo as a web browser?

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craig9 5 points a year ago

On android at least, yes there is a duck duck go browser.

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Sixtyforce 4 points a year ago

That's cool, I hope ONLYOFFICE gets some love one day too. I vastly prefer the GUI at least in the word processor. Also open source.

note I'm only using it for writing, can't speak to the rest of the suite

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brandon 14 points a year ago

Not judging the software at all, but the fact that OnlyOffice is owned/developed by a semi-sketchy Russian corporation would probably preclude it from getting any endorsement from a Western government.

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Ohh 4 points a year ago

Cryptpad (which partly uses onlyoffice), writes about it here: https://forum.cryptpad.org/...

I think it's an excellent post worth reading. Open Source entails collaborating with the whole world. Any code base is simply to big to audit from the start, but all incremental code can be audited, and you can disable stuff you don't need etc.

For me, the post makes me trust cryptpad more than I did before.

And yes. Cryptpaf = onlyoffice, but still relevant I think

Edit: spelling of "worth"

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Sixtyforce 0 points a year ago

Didn't know that :/ Hmm might switch myself then and delete my recc.

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pablodaniel 0 points a year ago

Dude. Don't be part of the problem.

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usernameusername 4 points a year ago

It is endorsed, though?

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realitista 4 points a year ago

EU governments are probably the only path to mainstream adoption for desktop Linux. If they all did it and invested in the features they needed, it could provide a valid option for mainstream office use.

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power 3 points a year ago

based!

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yucandu 2 points a year ago

Sweet I'm already using PostgreSQL because it's the only thing Blynk supported!

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pablodaniel 2 points a year ago

Great choices. I use all of them.