To be fair, some figured this out ages ago. But it's been more and more obvious lately, so more and more people are catching on.
eatCasserole 39 points a year ago
yournamehere 7 points a year ago
and they are willing to change what?
kozy138 22 points a year ago
The topics of discussion.
We can now shift the topic from asking "What is causing all of our problems?" to asking questions like, "What would a post-capitalist economy look like?" "What is the most effective and least damaging way to dismantle capitalism and agree upon another governing system?
grrgyle 9 points a year ago
Low stakes mutual aid is a good start. My friends and I have started doing work trades for each other. Mow the lawn, turn over a garden, help with technical problems -- that sort of thing.
Another good trick is having a "neighbourhood tools" spreadsheet and sharing it with as many people in the neighbourhood as possible. For instance, I don't need the lawnmower every day of the week, so why should we each have our own? Just come borrow it and update the spreadsheet with who's house it's at. Rare tools like the neighbourhood ladder have been passed around, away from their original house for so long, that they're basically communal.
yournamehere -3 points a year ago
i'd love that. discussions are great.
just as a game of thought i'd like to point to hans rosling real quick here!
are you for a more or less fair/just world?
how many ppl on this planet have access to a washing machine?
are you willing to give up your washing machine now that you know there are not enough resources for a washing machine for every human and you wanting a fair world?
i do not take yes for an answer here as extensive studies show not even the left in the west that owns a washing machine would be willing to live without one.
still making up shit like sharing a washing machine? just wait until your find out about cars or fridges.
what i am trying to say is that i doubt the discussion can and will take place. your suggested topics would be nice...but ppl.
Vinstaal0 3 points a year ago
Change where you buy shit from. Instead of going to Amazon, go to something more local. Instead of taking the car and buying more gas take the bike. Instead of buying something new, repair something you already have or buy something scond hand. Etc.
yournamehere 1 point a year ago
that'd be cool. you think its going to happen?
yournamehere 1 point a year ago
nope. youre not. ignorance is bliss. so you go and keep doing stuff like "thoughts and prayers" "stand together" etc. which from what my history books say never did shit. but at least for a brief moment you got dopamin. congratz. go pat yourself on the shoulder. YOU deserve it.
Crankenstein 1 point a year ago
That's a nice tu quoque you just made there.
Vinstaal0 1 point a year ago
Especially the consumerism part of it and the want for more every year. More salary, more profit etc is just an unrealistic growth issue.. Especailly the Anglo-Saxon mindset is doomed to fail for companies since they mostly do profit maximisation. The Rheinland model companies generally care more about the people working there and know they need them. Sadly, there are some people who are actively against supporting companies who have trouble surviving in the current climate. Often because they give more about the customers/clients and their personal.
qarbone 9 points a year ago
I'm still haunted by the coincidence that I was fired days after finally admitting to my mentor that I was feeling burned out for months.
I say "coincidence" because other stuff was happening at the same time and my mentor wasn't in the same office as me or my supervisor. But I remember, at the end of one week, he told me to reach out to my supervisor and talk to them about maybe getting some extra time off to reset, and, the start of the next week, I got called into the office and let go.
lightnsfw 8 points a year ago
One nice thing about my job is my boss gets it. He can't do anything about it and is in basically the same boat but he understands how I'm overloaded and going to miss deadlines because I don't have enough bandwidth to do everything that we're asked for. As long as I keep him updated on the status of things and prioritize them properly we're good.
Crankenstein 7 points a year ago
This kind of advice is incredibly infantilizing. Do you think people aren't trying? Have you considered that people don't have the opportunity to make those changes due to the material circumstances they are being forced into due to systemic forces beyond their immediate control?
Blaming the individual for being crushed under the weight of systemic violence is such a reductive position to argue from.
PartyAt15thAndSummit 31 points a year ago
rawsta 20 points a year ago
Am I the only one who likes his job? I was working for 10+ years in media creation without a proper education in that field. With 37 I changed everything and did an 3 year apprenticeship. 3 days working and 2 days school (with others around half my age). And now I work as a Web developer in the same small company (9 people) and couldn't be happier. We do only WebDev and no design or marketing. Ok, maybe a tiny amount of design and marketing. Many of our clients like that we are more technical than the regular webdesign agency. I have at least 30 days vacation, nice office in the middle of the city and a rather medium pay but if there is no emergency or time critical project, I can go to my boss and say: "I'm bored. I take the afternoon off." I won't get rich working there, but the fact that I look forward for my work and know work drama only by stories of others, is worth it for me. And that it's just 10min by foot from apartment to office is nice too. I'm so grateful that I am so lucky to find the right job and company.
Clent 15 points a year ago
Yes. I'm equally happy with my life work balance but I also understand this is the exception and not the rule so am always willing to lend an ear to anyone that wants to complain about their situation.
Same with any struggles one might have, socioeconomic conditions are not something any fellow worker controls.
I do draw the line at self inflected drama from anyone stuck in denial. Those people need to finish their spiral first.
rawsta 6 points a year ago
I hope I didn't came off as if I had no empathy. Of course I had shitty jobs in the past and can relate to the soul draining effects. Only because I am in a good place now, doesn't mean that I forget how fucked up work (or life in general) can be. And I hope I didn't came of as self centered ass with main character syndrome. I'm more the opposite of that. It's quite rare that I voice my opinion or just write/post something online. I even feel bad about this and the last comment. Sorry if I came over to harsh or self centered.
Weirdfish 3 points a year ago
I love my job. Its challenging, and at time stressful, but I love it.
I believe in the company I work for and the products we make.
It's a large company, and yet all the employees are just wonderful people, my team and department in particular.
It took me a lot of hard work and many years to reach this point, but it was worth it.
Don't have any degrees, but I have "or equivalent experience" across multiple disciplines which add up to a pretty unique position I basically designed for myself.
explodicle 2 points a year ago
I've been both. I hated every job I was forced to get in my 20s and 30s, but now that I'm a little more experienced I've finally got one of those rare interesting jobs.
I can't help but imagine how much more productive our economy would be if everyone had this luxury of the job they actually want. I was spending a ton of time/effort on looking busy because I hated working. Now the day just flies by and I have to manage my time carefully.
When you take a step back and just look at the whole thing, it's staggering how much time and effort we just fucking waste. We can start building a paradise for humans tomorrow, even while dealing with climate change. We're not just on the brink of collapse - we're on the brink of utopia. Humanity is ready for a change.
neidu3 15 points a year ago
Last time I was on holiday to the extent that I could unwind, de-stress, hear myself think I concluded that I did not want to go back. I contacted a former coworker just to get some feelers out there about how the industry was doing. Before my holiday was over I had a signed job offer, and I resigned as soon as I got back to the stressful job.
Lesson learned: Give your employees perpetual emergency brain with no time to step back and reflect. Otherwise they could start to evaluate their situation and whether they really need to stay.
whats_all_this_then 2 points a year ago
I'm curious, how long did it take you to come to that conclusion?
frenchfryenjoyer 10 points a year ago
because when you're at work you're just a cog in the machine. it's because capitalism is shit also humans didn't evolve to wake up so early to go to work either
rbamgnxl5 6 points a year ago
I just took two days off leading into last weekend. It was great having the time off, but it pales in comparison to how much time off I have now.
I got fired from my job on monday morning as my first meeting of the day.
Maybe my next job will involve fire.
FrenchFoodInHand 5 points a year ago
I worked in a career that I was good at but utterly hated, for 15 years, had a breakdown and then went off to work for a charity. It’s been 8 years in and the difference in fulfilment is night and day. It is possible to go and do a job that makes a difference, that feeds the homeless, or helps sick children. Fuck corporates and the bullshit rat race - there is so much more out there!
chiliedogg 17 points a year ago
I worked in the retail mines for years because I was good at it.
Look for a job in a municipality in customer service. City jobs pay better than retail, have WAY better benefits and hours, and you are contributing to your community society instead of shareholder value.
I got an entry-level permit tech job, and 6 late4 I was promoted. A year later I was approached by another city for a higher-paying position.
Within 2 years of starting city life, I made 4 times what I did in retail, had all medical premiums covered by the city (and even any out-of pocket expenses such as copays after the first $500/year), had a pension contribution double-matched by the city, 17 paid holidays, a month of vacation, a month of sick leave, comp time, and the contributions I make to the city will last for a century or more.
I even get a $300/month stipend for gas and $80/month for a second cell phone for checking emails without making my main phone discoverable in Open Records. I'm not required to use the second phone after hours, so it's easy to just turn it off over the weekend and ignore work.
All while getting to provide customer service to people who aren't just trying to buy stuff.
Tangent5280 2 points a year ago
Living the good life. Very jealous.
chiliedogg 4 points a year ago
I was one of like 3 applicants for the first city job I got.
But even the guys mowing the parks make decent money and have all the same benefits.
fiddledeedee 3 points a year ago
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=municipal+job+listings
this is one of the top results: https://www.governmentjobs.com/
good luck, i hope you find one that suits you!
LovableSidekick 1 point a year ago
You might try looking into nonprofits. There are a lot of retail-like positions in that area, where the hands-on part and people interactions are similar but with a different feel and sense of purpose.
collapse_already 4 points a year ago
I usually come back from vacation exhausted and ready to resume my regular routine. Maybe because "must see all the sights and do all the things, " but it is still true.
pahlimur 6 points a year ago
Every Monday and possibly Tuesday I'm basically a vegetable because I refuse to give up my normal days off to only prep for work. Regular chores get done but we add about a days worth of fun into the weekend where it doesn't fit. Fuck work expecting so much of our lives.
DesertDwellingWeirdo 3 points a year ago
I think it's natural to want to want to work and be active. It is a behavior that has been reinforced by evolution since we were hunter/gatherers. But, there are certain tasks that have definitely frustrated me.
untorquer 4 points a year ago
It's natural in a survival or creative context where we use our own agency to decide what to work on.
It's unnatural when we have no agency on the daily and our reward has been abstracted to numbers in a bank account.
DesertDwellingWeirdo 2 points a year ago
Context is irrelevant in my opinion, in the same way that hunger and survival are irrelevant to a dog expressing its prey drive on a plush toy. I also believe we have more agency now than ever; we live in a time when food is abundant, and taking a day or two off might leave you with a smaller paycheck rather than at risk of starving to death. When a job needed to be done thousands of years ago, it was often imperative to the survival of yourself or your community, and not necessarily a matter of choice. Those communities likely also had harsh means of enforcing labor contribution of the able-bodied, consequences exceeding the typical outcome of homelessness that we're familiar with today, which contributed to this evolution. Those who found work itself to be rewarding were much more likely to survive and reproduce, as opposed to those who only found reward in the outcome of work (food, now money).
ThatWeirdGuy1001 2 points a year ago
My ex asked me why I never take a vacation and I had to explain to her that the more vacations I take the more likely I am to quit my job and just run into the woods and never come back.
LovableSidekick 2 points a year ago
TBH this seems like a great motivation to make changes in your life. Somebody who is in a position to take vacations probably has that option more than the people at the absolute bottom layer of the capitalism heap.
Luminocta -14 points a year ago
If you say or think stuff like this. You have made a wrong choice. Doesn't mean working in general is a bad thing. It can give purpose. If work is your problem you probably don't have a job that suits you.
Wanting to live a free and creative life is not how this planet works, sadly, and it won't ever be like that. So you can either blame everything around you for being shit or take what you can get and make the best of it.
Life sucks, but complaining will not get you anywhere. The fact that you complain, after a holiday, means you have a privilege that many many people don't even enjoy. Not saying your troubles aren't true or invalid, but you can definitely improve if you want to.
explodicle 6 points a year ago
Unionize. It's the only proven way to improve working conditions.
Luminocta 1 point a year ago
Finally someone actually saying something.
But really just do something. Join a union, point out corruption. It's great to see so many people disagreeing with my comment just to upvote something absolutely empty but cool sounding like "a slave claims his chains". There is no slave here, don't make me look like a victim of a system I'm not a part of.
I truly feel like people here just want to whine about "the system" but don't dare speak up or do something about it. You have the power to change it. If you don't make that choice, then start accepting it. At least then you don't have to spend so much time on the internet whining about how hard it is to work after a holiday.
brendansimms 1 point a year ago
What is to be done, indeed
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