We need to start finding ways to take away the rights of Evangelical Christians. Let them see how it feels for once.
WoodScientist 12 points a year ago
AnUnusualRelic 11 points a year ago
Have you considered wishing them Happy Holidays?
KumaSudosa 1 point a year ago
"Happy winter celebrations, fellas!" "I hope you'll enjoy your Germanic pagan traditions"
Gigasser 5 points a year ago
There's a meme out there that goes something along the line of "Nothing Ever Happens". This line of thinking is poison, as it doesn't take into account incrementalism. The fall into fascism isn't a single large step, it's many small steps until one day you've realized that you're no longer in the same place that you were, and that now, you're lost.
CalipherJones 10 points a year ago
A lot of Americans barely understand how the government actually functions.
suigenerix 3 points a year ago
Yeah, to add to that, the majority of Americans unfortunately have poor literacy levels with reading below sixth-grade level.
https://www.apmresearchlab.org/10x-adult-literacy
And you can probably guess which party governs most states with the lowest funding levels for improving literacy.
Quadhammer 1 point a year ago
38% percent not over half
Chainweasel 77 points a year ago
If "nearly half" disprove that means more than half approve.
That's fucking disgusting.
CalipherJones 6 points a year ago
The people that don't care will continue to not care until it affects them directly. Even with the tariffs it won't matter until what they're actually buying gets hit by the price hikes. Even then they may not even be paying enough attention to their finances to notice.
arrow74 20 points a year ago
Per the article:
47% of U.S. adults disapprove of of deploying the Marines to LA, with 34% approval.
45% disapprove the National Guard deployment, while 38% said they approve.
That leaves 19% and 17% that are undecided. The question for those would be are they uninterested or uninformed?
metallic_substance 4 points a year ago
Both probably. Or just flat out too stupid to have an opinion
timbuck2themoon -1 points a year ago
Who gives a shit? They've proven themselves fucking useless like the shit heels they are.
Quadhammer 1 point a year ago
...he's pointing out the percentages. Almost half disapprove but only 38% approve and the rest were undecided
Ooops 4 points a year ago
To be fair here and without looking up numbers, such polls tend to often show the same pattern. Something like 45% A, 30% undecided, 25% B.
So when "nearly half" disapprove it can still mean "a majority" does.
Ooops 3 points a year ago
Okay, then let me rephrase it: When "nearly half" disapprove it can (and probably does) mean that there is still no majority (or plurality) approving, which is what OP falsely concluded.
f314 17 points a year ago
This is exactly what happens with democratic societies
No. This is what happens when you have two sides, both too large to really represent anyone, battling for a sliver of majority using increasingly diverging views and then exercising as much power as they can before the roles flip again.
In an actual democracy representatives of the people, with many differing views, sit down together and decide case by case on a solution that most can be happy with.
Someone will always disagree with any decision when we live in a large society, but a functioning democracy is the closest thing we have ever come to making sure that as many as possible are happy (and more importantly get a say).
orclev 12 points a year ago
Unfortunately exactly this outcome is the inevitable result of a FPTP voting system combined with political parties. The most stable arrangement of such a system is a two party system, and once it reaches that point the winning party becomes the one willing to take the most extreme position from the other party.
The only way to fix this is to do away with FPTP and replace it with a proportional voting system that will allow for multiple political parties to be viable and encourage the major parties to seek moderate positions rather than extremes.
f314 4 points a year ago
Absolutely agree! First past the post will always drift toward larger and less representative parties. Even proportional representation can have this tendency, but it is much more resilient.
f314 2 points a year ago
Indeed! And they do under representational democracies. In a community there will always be some sort of law or code, whether written or not, that some members of that community disagree with.
floofloof 55 points a year ago
These are some depressing numbers.
47% of U.S. adults disapprove of of deploying the Marines to LA, with 34% approval.
45% disapprove the National Guard deployment, while 38% said they approve.
... An equal share — 45% — also disapprove of the protests against ICE, per Monday YouGov polling.
36% said they approve of the protests, and 19% said they are not sure.
58% of Democrats said they approved of the anti-ICE protests, compared to 15% of Republicans.
avidamoeba 12 points a year ago
58% of Democrats said they approved of the anti-ICE protests, compared to 15% of Republicans.
I wonder how does it compare to previous iterations of large protests.
CalipherJones 18 points a year ago
Most Americans probably haven't even seen the video. The average person is unbelievably clueless. My friends Instagram reels is animated screaming cucumbers and more brain rot. 0 news, 0 information, just straight retardation. Each of our media spheres is individually tailored and that is a massive problem when it comes to getting people on the same page.
Pacattack57 4 points a year ago
I’ve seen people claim she deserved it for blocking traffic.
collapse_already 41 points a year ago
That percentage is insanely low. What is wrong with the fuckers that approve?
DarkFuture 11 points a year ago
A significant lack of education mixed with misguided hatred.
CalipherJones 3 points a year ago
Majority of people are clueless about most issues unless it directly affects them.
taiyang 40 points a year ago
Less than the majority is depressing, but don't forget how the media is covering this. MAGA eats this shit up, obviously, but even your standard semi-informed people are getting "riots on the street of LA" bullshit on their local news outlets.
I'm actually a little surprised it's "almost half" in disapproval, given how badly this is covered. I wonder if TikTok and Bluesky are helping, the latter being obvious but the former being surprisingly good at showing what's actually happening on the ground-- at least a lot better than Meta and X options.
gAlienLifeform 15 points a year ago
Yeah, also even though it's "almost half" there's more people saying disapprove than approve, so there's a large number in the "unsure" category right now, and the more we find out about who's being deported and how and what the cops will do to suppress these protests the more that disapprove number will go up
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BlameTheAntifa 32 points a year ago
45% disapprove the National Guard deployment, while 38% said they approve.
So 38% are enemies of Constitution and country.
Jumpingspiderman 11 points a year ago
The Authoritarians- a book by Prof. Altmeyer- says there's about 1/3 of the population who are authoritarians and that percentage is pretty constant no matter what one does. SO it sounds about right
BlameTheAntifa 2 points a year ago
I hadn't heard of that book before. Looking it up, it's a book about the psychology of authoritarianism, backed by research and receipts. I'll add it to the top of my reading list. It also seems to be available for free on the author's website. Thank you for this.
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outhouseperilous 1 point a year ago
Well no. Im an enemy of most of the country and certainly its government, not super a fan of the constitution, and im extremely unhappy about this.
Allemaniac 30 points a year ago
"nearly half" so over 50% of US adults are mentally challenged it seems
Jumpingspiderman 10 points a year ago
Well, remember George Carlin when he said something along the lines of "Think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize that half the population is dumber than that."
valkyrieangela 6 points a year ago
Did 2024 not teach you that already? It's all a lost cause.
markovs_gun 28 points a year ago
That means a majority approve or don't care. We're fucked
Quadhammer 3 points a year ago
45% don't approve and 38% approve someone said further up. Still not great but not the majority the headline makes it seem
markovs_gun 1 point a year ago
or don't care
17% of the population not giving a shit is a problem
buddascrayon 6 points a year ago
It's going to be interesting to see the reaction on the ones who approve when Trumpflation really gets going because farms can't hire enough workers to pick their fields and work their cattle and poultry mills.
Good time to plant a victory garden. You're gonna need it.
DarkFuture 26 points a year ago
Wow, we got ALMOST half of America to understand that it's bad when presidents send the military to threaten Americans.
That almost makes me think our inevitable decline as a nation will happen slower than I originally thought.
finitebanjo 7 points a year ago
Generally not how polling works, only 34% approved and the remainder is just no response.
75% of Republican respondents approved of the National Guard deployment, only 68% for the Marines deployment.
bizza 22 points a year ago
There's something that needs to be done, and that something is drastic, and a lot of people don't want to hear, or see it. But we can't keep going forward as a country where more than half of people are violent sociopaths, or enablers of the latter.
Nomad_Scry 19 points a year ago
Between 33% and 38% of Americans shouldn't be allowed to make decisions because they are incompetent or vile. That's how many have never wavered in their support of Trump.
But I am shocked here at the extra 12+% who aren't outraged by what's happening now. Is that the 11% of Libertarians? (https://www.pewresearch.org/...)
supersquirrel 16 points a year ago
lol we are cooked
ArchmageAzor 10 points a year ago
More than half of US citizens are fascists? That does not surprise me.
reactionality 10 points a year ago
"nearly"..?
SocialMediaRefugee 8 points a year ago
To be honest part of me wants his raids to spread to other cities, especially in middle America, so it hits home to more voters. Especially his wavering voters. Some people can only recognize something if they experience it first hand.
Drusas 3 points a year ago
It will spread, but not in the middle of the country. He's allegedly targeted blue cities like New York, Chicago, Seattle next.
Our new chief of police here in Seattle just said that he expects to be arrested and imprisoned for protecting the city against these raids. Sounds like he might be a keeper. We sure could use it.
WeirdGoesPro 7 points a year ago
Only half?
Quadhammer 1 point a year ago
48% don't approve 34% approve
Flamekebab 6 points a year ago
Pathetic.
Itdidnttrickledown 6 points a year ago
It way more than half. Polling almost always favors fanatics.
Itdidnttrickledown 3 points a year ago
There have been studies done about who responds to polling especially polling about politics. The personality types were laid out in it. Thats how I know.
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floofloof 0 points a year ago
Sure, if you designed a poll like you describe, it would have problems. But there are well studied ways of designing polls so the result is truly representative. There's a whole science of this, and professional polls done in good faith will be designed to avoid these kinds of issues.
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GoobyMcMooby 4 points a year ago
It’s ok because it will never happen to me! Huh? These politicians have zero policy agenda and thrive on having an other to rally against? They’ll go after me for the pettiest of things like living while poor to fill their private prison quotas once all the gross gays and browns are reduced to cinder? Nah. This is America. It can’t happen here!
toxicbubble 4 points a year ago
half of America is dumber than a sack of potatoes
Jumpingspiderman 0 points a year ago
That every American doesn't approve of Trump's handling of protests is shameful.
floofloof 7 points a year ago
That every American doesn’t approve of Trump’s handling of protests is shameful.
Quite the contrary. But looking at your post history, I wonder whether you accidentally said the opposite of what you meant.
Jumpingspiderman 4 points a year ago
I meant that it’s shameful that not all Americans disapprove of the Trump fascist regime. I seem to have been grammar challenged.
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