America in a nutshell

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Placebonickname 115 points a year ago

I 2nd this. If you stop me or my wife the first thing I need to see if a badge, id, and warrant. Not one or the other. 2out of three at least.

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themeatbridge 101 points a year ago

This is exactly where the 2nd amendment and the Blue Lives Matter movements collide. If both civilians and police have the legal right to arm and defend themselves with lethal force, and neither has a responsibility to show restraint or demonstrate cause, then you have created a situation where an innocent civilian and a good cop could kill each other in self defense and neither would have done anything wrong.

Edit: I'm not going to respond to each comment saying there are no good cops. My point is that the cop does not have to be a bad cop for the civilian to have reasonable fear for their life, nor does the civilian need to be a criminal for the cop to have a reasonable fear for their life. Both are legally justified in killing the other person, and both are legally entitled to own a weapon capable of killing the other. That's not a society, that's a war. Ir we didn't already have a police force, and you described their function in their current state to a peaceful society, they would think you were mad.

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compostgoblin 61 points a year ago

It always blows my mind when I see Back the Blue flags next to Gadsden flags. Who do they think is doing the treading?!

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themeatbridge 32 points a year ago

It makes sense if you remember that conservativism doesn't actually exist, and all people claiming to be conservatives are just narcissists who pick and choose what they care about in any given situation.

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nickwitha_k 9 points a year ago

Eh. Conservatism does exist but, it's never been what it's claimed to be. It's all about establishing and enforcing hierarchical power structures in society by any means necessary. Almost universally, the adherents desire to have power over others, so, even if they're not at the top, they get to be cruel towards their "lessers" and that makes them feel better about themselves. Through the lens of their philosophy, things like hypocrisy are privileges of those higher in the hierarchy with which to taunt their "lessers".

Additionally, they do not believe in objective reality but, subjective reality that bends to their will (when it doesn't, they deny the delta and pretend that it does). This applies to morality as well; moral correctness is relative to one's place in the hierarchy, not their actions (ie supporting a convicted felon, rapist and pedophile is ok because he's rich and supports hierarchy).

The reason, I think, that the belief system has been able to stick around so long (beyond the propaganda) is that its followers do gain some mental health benefits. They are able to reduce their cognitive load through deference to their rulers and reduce potential for anxiety and depression by avoiding self-reflection and embracing the Just World Fallacy.

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tormeh 7 points a year ago

Conservatism does sort of exist, but it's all about conserving the social, economic, and power structures of the present. Honestly most so-called conservatives are actually reactionaries - they want to bring back the social, economic, and power structures of the recent past, i.e. reverse the past couple of decades of development. Mostly, of course, because they believe they were better off back then.

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zarkanian 9 points a year ago

Who do they think is doing the treading?!

Woke leftists. Duh.

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DarkDarkHouse 6 points a year ago

I think the problem arises when you project a view of treating people equally onto someone who does not have such a view.

"Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect."

The Gadsden flag expresses support for the freedom of the in-group and the Back the Blue flag expresses support for the oppression of the out-group.

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compostgoblin 2 points a year ago

You nailed it. Well put!

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chiliedogg 30 points a year ago

A good cop won't create a situation where an innocent civilian will feel the need to use lethal force.

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Doc_Crankenstein 18 points a year ago

Too bad there is no such thing as a good cop

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themeatbridge 2 points a year ago

A cop doesn't need to be a bad cop to create a situation where the civilian has a reasonable fear for their life. I'm a believer that ACAB, but even if I'm wrong, it's still an untenable situation.

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noxypaws 22 points a year ago

There are no good cops.

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themeatbridge 3 points a year ago

I'm not disagreeing with you. My point was that neither person needs to be a criminal to create a situation where both have a legal justification for deadly force in self defense. Like how fucked up is that?

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RickyRigatoni 18 points a year ago

a good cop

Well now you just blew the argument by making an impossible scenario =^)

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Revan343 18 points a year ago

a good cop

Lol

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chiliedogg 1 point a year ago

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idiomaddict 11 points a year ago

I wonder how many people who support both movements would consider themselves “pro-life.”

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Doc_Crankenstein 1 point a year ago

the venn diagram is practically a circle.

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jaybone 6 points a year ago

Do people actually believe this stuff? There have been many tv shows for decades where they literally follow police around with a camera. And anyone who tries this “give me your badge number, you need a warrant, you don’t have probable cause” gets arrested. They don’t even make a secret about it.

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FRYD 87 points a year ago

I think it bears mentioning that the “deranged maniac” title isn’t the whole story. I don’t know about this guy in particular, but a lot of these guys are all part of far-right online cliques that share propaganda amongst each other while valorizing the guys who do this shit.

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A_Random_Idiot 36 points a year ago

I wouldnt be surprised if right wing websites are celebrating this guy as a hero and an example to follow

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BlueMagma 2 points a year ago

To be fair, we are celebrating whoever did what Luigi is accused of as a hero.

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Katana314 18 points a year ago

Just to highlight some solidarity: Right groups celebrate that too. I don’t think any political spectrum takes the side of health insurance companies.

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Doc_Crankenstein 15 points a year ago

Apples to Oranges.

Just because both are fruit doesn't mean both are the same.

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Jiggle_Physics 11 points a year ago

Plus, it is pretty bipartisan, everyone hates health insurance companies, more popular leftward, but the amount on the right that supported, or at least did not condemn, him was pretty striking

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VeryVito 4 points a year ago

I’m not celebrating it, but I am lamenting a system that makes it seem inevitable:

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Doc_Crankenstein 1 point a year ago

I am absolutely celebrating it. Every billionaire deserves a shallow, unmarked grave.

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myrrh 14 points a year ago

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MedicPigBabySaver 80 points a year ago

MAGA Nut Kills political opponents.

End story.

Civil War is in the beginning stages between L.A. and this.

Sure, it started on inauguration day... but, now it's truly ramping up.

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AppleTea 11 points a year ago

Civil war my ass. The actual civil war had a clear geographic and economic divide between a manufacturing, wage-labor north and an agrarian, slave-owning south.

The fuck kind of divide is this supposed to be over today? Left/right culture war? Most people are still completely checked out. Yankees are very very comfortable (precarious comfort, but still comfortable) and lead 99.99% identical lives to one another. There is not going to be a civil war.

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vaultdweller013 13 points a year ago

Calling it Left vs Right culture is kinda over simplifying it but kinda. The problem is that a lot of regions have shifted in their beliefs and even further separated since the civil war, just cause I and a Utah Mormon live vaguely similar day to day lives doesn't mean we are culturally compatible.

This is closer to the Yugoslav troubles before its initial break down in the 90s, a bunch of cultures who while broadly similar on a surface level have friction with one another regardless due to deeper issues. It just happens to be manifesting on a political level since most Americans will happily suppress their own regional identity in favor of the American imperial Identity.

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Rancor_Tangerine 12 points a year ago

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throwawayacc0430 39 points a year ago

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SoleInvictus 38 points a year ago

I gotchu fam:

https://www.nbcnews.com/...

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Ledericas 24 points a year ago

2 democrat lawmakers were assasinated, plus the dog, and he had more targets.

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throwawayacc0430 11 points a year ago

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Mustakrakish 5 points a year ago

Nah don't do Walugi like that. He's more of a rival than nemesis. More like Lugi turned up to 11 with a plan

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Glytch 2 points a year ago

One was assassinated. The other was only injured.

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outhouseperilous 1 point a year ago

plus the dog

Method acting, i see.

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Tuxman 21 points a year ago

The short answer: yes

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bitchkat 21 points a year ago

A MN state rep and her husband were murdered and a state senator and his wife were shot and are in "grave" danger.

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Brandonazz 26 points a year ago

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bitchkat -9 points a year ago

potato, putahto.

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McNasty 13 points a year ago

Because they're dead, sure. But assassination is specific.

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leftzero 28 points a year ago

Was he really a deranged maniac, though, or was that just part of him pretending to be a cop..?

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bluesheep 10 points a year ago

If you like to play cop you're a deranged maniac anyway, so tomato tomato

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JasonDJ 4 points a year ago

Man some people take method acting way too far.

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Rakonat 3 points a year ago

What part of being a cop, or wanting to be a cop, disqualifies someone from being a deranged maniac?

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Doc_Crankenstein 4 points a year ago

I don't think you read their comment correctly.

They are saying that being a deranged maniac is part of their pretending to be a cop, not that it disqualifies them from being a cop.

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HeyThisIsntTheYMCA 2 points a year ago

i'm just being a deranged maniac as a hobby. i don't get paid for it like the popo

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leftzero 2 points a year ago

None. Rather, it's practically a requirement. Hence my question.

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Ledericas 11 points a year ago

not surprised a right wing evangelical pastors, that did this, he had a hit list targeting other democrats, and abortion providers.

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sqgl 2 points a year ago

You got a source?

I can't find anything online about the killer being caught or even being identified. It may even be a real cop.

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sqgl 1 point a year ago

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aeronmelon 6 points a year ago

“Police Officer means Terrorist? What a country!”

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aeternum 1 point a year ago

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