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demvoter 282 points 3 years ago

This should be a lesson to all remaining mods to stop putting their effort into that site. Reddit doesn’t care about who helped build it. They only care about making money for themselves.

What a shitty way to remove you. Completely uncalled for.

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Ulu-Mulu-no-die 40 points 3 years ago

Mods should quit moderating altogether IMO, more than 20 thousands participated in the protest, there's no way they could replace them all in a reasonable time-frame, it would be a much better chaos than the blackout.

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NightOwl 12 points 3 years ago

Yeah, I get that they must be very passionate to what they do for free, but to keep putting energy into a place where they have been shown to be considered expendable seems difficult to find the motivation. Don't seem worth it to me unless the organization they volunteer for is supportive. People quit for less for paying jobs.

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Monomate 4 points 3 years ago

Maybe, for maximum damage, they should save this mass resignation for when the IPO happens, just to screw Reddit's admins. In the meantime, the mods should promote Reddit alternatives in the subs. Nothing too explicit, but some links being mentioned in sticky posts/comments should suffice.

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hglman 0 points 3 years ago

No, just quit. Trying to get perfect with it when it just fails.

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uyuu 0 points 3 years ago

I got banned from both shittylifeprotips and interestingasfuck for posting porn which was in rules with the site-wide rules.

Why are they asking for chaos and then try to moderate it? They really should just quit being mods but they cant for some reason.

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Ulu-Mulu-no-die 5 points 3 years ago

It's very possible it was the admins banning you, not the mods (admins are reddit employees for those who don't know, mods aren't).

There have been other reports of people being banned by admins for "contributing" to the protest with NSFW content, they're desperate, they're trying to keep the protest under check by any means.

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Gamers_Mate 131 points 3 years ago

There does not seem to be a celebrities magazine here yet. You could make one and become a mod of it.

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vaprz 53 points 3 years ago
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nevernevermore 43 points 3 years ago

I don't know if you need to hear this or not; but you also don't have to donate your time to anything for free anymore. Nobody would blame you for throwing in the towel (if you feel you need to, that is)

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kinz 26 points 3 years ago

How do you make your own magazine

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RheingoldRiver 35 points 3 years ago
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babelspace 12 points 3 years ago

Click the plus icon to the left of your username at the top right corner of the screen . Last option on the drop-down menu is “create new magazine”.

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vyvanse 16 points 3 years ago

I think the fact it's called a magazine here is perfect for this

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Hedup 3 points 3 years ago

They def need to make it on kbin if they do.

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dag06001 9 points 3 years ago

Where can I find out what a magazine is on here? New to Lemmy. Is that like a subreddit?

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MrsEaves 16 points 3 years ago

It is! Magazines are a feature in kbin, and Lemmy calls this sort of thing a Community. You’re seeing the kbin terminology here because this thread started on kbin.social. If you pay attention to URLs, that’s also why it’s /c/subredditname on Lemmy and /m/subredditname on kbin.

The other major difference with kbin magazines is that you can configure them to pick up content from Mastodon using a hashtag, and it will show it in threaded format in a separate area of the magazine that’s easy to get to. It’s great for news, giving people an outlet for self-promotion without cluttering discussion, or helping get a magazine started if the topic is popular.

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iNeedScissors67 3 points 3 years ago

Yeah it's the kbin equivalent. On Lemmy you have Communities.

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NotSteve_ 2 points 3 years ago

yep! Exactly like a subreddit

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Hanabie 3 points 3 years ago

There is, actually.

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sbv 57 points 3 years ago

Thank you for your effort building a community on Reddit. It gave a lot of people enjoyment. I'm sorry that Reddit didn't treat you better.

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PippinVanderspiegel 55 points 3 years ago

I'm really sorry to hear that they did this to you. I went through something similar, but only as a poster.

There was a really famous Usenet poster called Humdog who, back in 1994, wrote a brilliant essay called Pandora's Vox: On Community in Cyberspace. It talks of how cyberspace, instead of doing away with hierarchy and creating equality, actually commodifies its users and transfers power to large corporations.

cyberspace is a mostly a silent place. in its silence it shows itself to be an expression of the mass. one might question the idea of silence in a place where millions of user-ids parade around like angels of light, looking to see whom they might, so to speak, consume. the silence is nonetheless present and it is most present, paradoxically at the moment that the user-id speaks. when the user-id posts to a board, it does so while dwelling within an illusion that no one is present. language in cyberspace is a frozen landscape.

i have seen many people spill their guts on-line, and i did so myself until, at last, i began to see that i had commodified myself. commodification means that you turn something into a product which has a money-value. in the nineteenth century, commodities were made in factories, which karl marx called “the means of production.” capitalists were people who owned the means of production, and the commodities were made by workers who were mostly exploited. i created my interior thoughts as a means of production for the corporation that owned the board i was posting to, and that commodity was being sold to other commodity/consumer entities as entertainment. that means that i sold my soul like a tennis shoe and i derived no profit from the sale of my soul. people who post frequently on boards appear to know that they are factory equipment and tennis shoes, and sometimes trade sends and email about how their contributions are not appreciated by management.

You can read it all here:
https://archive.org/...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carmen_Hermosillo

It really does show that none of this is new. It's what the internet really always has been.

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IninewCrow 12 points 3 years ago

Great perspective and a fanstastic way of seeing how we should view our participation in all this internet activity

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vaprz 9 points 3 years ago
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jimvernon 6 points 3 years ago

@PippinVanderspiegel @vaprz I'd dispute that he gained nothing from "the sale of his soul". We all get something out of posting online, even if we're not paid for it. Money isn't the only thing of value one can receive. I greatly value the discussions I've had over the years and the knowledge I've gained from anonymous posters contributions. I don't think I'd even have the job I have today without online exchanges between people looking for and giving out helpful information.

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PippinVanderspiegel 7 points 3 years ago

It's a fair point but, I think, misses the gist of her argument. Humdog was super famous back in the 90s as a prolific online poster. Her entire life was pretty much online at a time when that was highly unusual. Keeping in mind that this was back in 1994 (so one year after the World Wide Web came into existence) and the prevailing attitude of most people back then was that the internet was a great leveller that would remove hierarchy from society and give power to the individual.

Her point was simply that the nature of posting on a large corporation's computer network actually gave more power to these companies than to the user. She wasn't saying that posting online was pointless or valueless.

She was pretty much the first person to ever say this.

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jimvernon 7 points 3 years ago

@PippinVanderspiegel @vaprz

This is completely tangential, but it's pretty wild that I could reply to your comment by simply pasting the link into Mastodon. No account creation on a Kbin instance required.

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PippinVanderspiegel 4 points 3 years ago

It's great isn't it?

It's actually the first time I've been excited for web technology in the last decade!

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abff08f4813c 39 points 3 years ago

Welcome aboard! Glad to have you here!

Also, eff spez!

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Houdini 19 points 3 years ago

Also, eff spez!

Whoa, there! Language!

Try this instead: Fuuuuuuuuuuck Spez. Fuuuuuuuck Steve Huffman. Fuuuuuuuuuck that vile sociopath.

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ColonelSanders 10 points 3 years ago

Are you talking about Steve The Pigboy Huffman? That Steve Huffman?

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jalda 6 points 3 years ago

Maybe about Steve Jailbait Huffman

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Contextual_Idiot 4 points 3 years ago

I like to believe that spez has a room, down in his bunker, that is full to the tits with freeze dried dicks. Just bag after bag jammed in there so tight that the door pops open and they spill out. The door is probably labeled “Steve’s Num-Nums.”

And every night, spez sneaks down there to eat a bag of freeze dried dicks.

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vaprz 13 points 3 years ago
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kadu 39 points 3 years ago
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vaprz 10 points 3 years ago
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JoeKrogan 8 points 3 years ago

Well said

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Deralax 32 points 3 years ago

I can't imagine how it feels to put so many hours into building a thriving community just to have it thanklessly ripped from your hands.

As an 12 year reddit user who almost never posted or commented, thank you for all of the hard work you and others like you put in to make reddit as great as it was.

Hopefully fediverse will prove more resistant to greedy corporate interests in the years to come. I'm looking forward to building this new community with all of you!

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pushka 30 points 3 years ago

If you're the sole-mod of a sub - always add like 4 of your own alt-accounts as mods below you

I was added as a mod to one sub without sub-settings permissions and the main mod account was deleted, so I deleted all the posts and stickied a text-comment saying 2023 blackout, message mods to join private community hehe~

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vaprz 14 points 3 years ago
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Aeonx 10 points 3 years ago

Damn. That's brilliant.

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Aztech 29 points 3 years ago

Damn, that's extremely shitty and I agree that someday we will see the ashes of reddit being scattered in the digital wind

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wwwwhatever 28 points 3 years ago
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puck2 2 points 3 years ago

which one?

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ludeth 27 points 3 years ago

That’s just insane. Even if the content is good.. I’m just not sure I could justify going back to a place like that.

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aeternum 23 points 3 years ago

Yup. any site that treats their userbase and mods that way isn't worth using. Mods and users put in countless hours to make that site a better place, and this is how Spez treats us. Fuck that. Fuck spez. Fuck reddit

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Quill7513 4 points 3 years ago

It's hard to articulate. Reddit is at its core only a platform. All it did was give users a place to create, curate, contribute, and connect to, with, and for communities. Reddit was our magic feather. We didn't need them all along. All it did was tear down some mental blocks, so we could get started.

We wouldn't even be that mad if Reddit was trying to be reasonable. They're just being parasitic toward us, if we're being honest with ourselves. They want us to do all the work, so they can make all the money from our work, and then they want to charge us money for the honor of having been monetized. And it's not even that they're just chasing multiple different monetization schemes in moderation so that everyone profits. They intend to be greedy fucks in every transaction. They want users to pay subscription fees for Reddit premium (which isn't well priced, and therefore doesn't sell many subscriptions). Furthermore, they want developers to pay outrageous API licensing fees (which aren't well priced, and therefor almost all the developers are just shuttering). Not only that, they want to charge API fees toward AI training companies. My guess? Their prices are again too high, and the result will be that AI studios will just not pay for an official license and will do web scraping. It will require more work for them to get the scrapers to properly parse the threads, since what AI studios are interested in are threaded conversations right now. The AI studios will determine it is worth it to pay some engineers to do that rather than to pay the money Reddit wants (per my understanding, Reddit is charging the same money for AI studios as 3rd party apps).

So, where does that leave Reddit? Only with advertising revenue. They could lower the prices for their other services and make more money than that, but you would need to understand long-term cause and effect to do that, and u/spez has NOT demonstrated that kind of awareness. As evidence, note that advertisers are starting to reassess their contracts with Reddit (which by the way, their ads suck! You've collected all this demographic info about your users, but you can't provide advertisements that draw any kind of interest!? And you think you can be of value to AI companies!? What the fuck are you doing!?). Reddit's greed is losing them money.

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aeternum 4 points 3 years ago

Yup. Any platforms deserve to get paid for their API. They're not a charity. But what reddit is doing is absolutely ridiculous. They knew that the TPA devs wouldn't be able to pay costs that high. They knew all along that it would shut down, most, if not all, of the TPA.

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MentalEdge 26 points 3 years ago

Already full at work building something better, so happy to have another experienced power user among our ranks!

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Maxcoffee 25 points 3 years ago

Reddit won't die in a big catastrophic Digg moment, that was a rare event that doesn't usually happen so blatantly.

However, Reddit has reached its high water mark though, I absolutely agree. It'll slowly continue to bleed good, contributing power users like yourself in favor of becoming an algorithm-run mass-appeal corporate shit hole just like Facebook. It is very sad to see moderators like yourself being treated so poorly though and I hope you stick around here at least somewhat even if it's just for your own sanity.

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Very_Bad_Janet 25 points 3 years ago

I'm so sorry. It's a real loss of something you valued and took pride in. It's also a loss of community. Be kind to yourself while you mourn the loss. (We're all feeling it to some degree.) But you have a fresh, new community right here for you.

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thesanewriter 21 points 3 years ago

Damn. I didn't really expect Reddit to sink this fast, though I suspected the IPO would drive bad habits. As always, fuck u/spez, crashes the Titanic to claim the insurance policy. Greedy asshole.

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phil299 20 points 3 years ago

There is a thread in your sub about this here I added the text from this thread too it. There is also a link to Kbin It is clear that the people in charge of Reddit are heartless and at this point really really worried because you do not start doing this shit until it feels like you have no other options and you are scared. Time for us to double down.

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Darkwatch00 18 points 3 years ago

Thanks for your hard work and commitment. I was a 10 year user on Reddit and now I am dipping my feet here. Thing is reddit I was always a lurker and here I feel like I can post and it means something. The good will and actual content in the conversations are a breath of fresh air. Thanks everyone for being so welcoming.

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MachoMaamSandyRavage 18 points 3 years ago

I mean, it is obvious that the reddit owners and hence admins primarily care about subs being open. They don’t really care about making your work harder or requiring more active moderation.

But I am very curious, why would you even go to all the length to work on a bot for 4-6 weeks just so you can make the people who treat you like shit more money?

To be quite honest, I suspect the whole shebang will end how Huffman expects for the most part. Most users don’t care and the people who do care, primarily the mods are too addicted to step away or actually behave in a way that will have long lasting effects.

Nevertheless, sucks they did you dirty like that, but not unexpected given your response and reddits enshitification.

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idle 18 points 3 years ago

We are happy to have you. We need as many contributors here as we can get.

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Dexies -39 points 3 years ago
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sdv834u56 17 points 3 years ago

At least we have something better now... Kbin seems to be better all around, with a great pwa for phone, no need for Reddit's crap.

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gentleman 16 points 3 years ago

@vaprz Sorry this happened to you. I'm not surprised. Mods are going to be thrown over the side at an accelerating rate IMO. The protest is indeed hurting F u/spez otherwise he wouldn't have to do this. My opinion is that he will do whatever it takes to try to get his numbers back up and his ability to sell Reddit and buy his island depends on it.

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megane_kun 15 points 3 years ago

Expected behavior from Steve Huffman's lackeys.

I’m glad I was forced to remove my Reddit crutch and dive in full force.

Pretty much the silver lining in all this. Best of luck to you and your adventures here in the Fediverse.

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MajesticFlame 15 points 3 years ago

I really hope the decline clearly shows before Reddits IPO. If Spqz and co. are allowed to profit from this, then the future looks bleak...

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Danthemanbeast 13 points 3 years ago

I'm glad a good experienced mod has come over from reddit. Having good content providers here will help speed reddits demise.

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AnonymousLlama 13 points 3 years ago

Terrible mate, it sucks that you got the shit end of the stick. Reddit admins are putting the squeeze on heaps of mods, they're not interested in resolving any issues, just silencing opposition.

It's a shame that something you put that much time and effort in has all of a sudden vanished, hopefully you find a new home / community here.

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mem_somerville_kbin 13 points 3 years ago

The tonedeafness of this C-suite is remarkable. And like twitter, I'm stunned at how quickly they are steering the clown car off the cliff.

I liked twitter, despite its flaws. I liked reddit too--some of it was a swamp, but you could have your little island and mostly be ok. Like most tools they could be used for good or bad, and you could focus on the good.

But they flushed all of the good. What a really stupid plan.

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RedComet91 5 points 3 years ago

The fact Spez has come out saying he admires Musk's work at Twitter is insane. Once the third-party apps stop working it's going to get a whole lot worse over there too.

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collegefurtrader 12 points 3 years ago

The materials that make up the earth could only have been formed in the supernova of a 3rd or 4th generation star that has coalesced, ignited, lived, and died in this place since the birth of the universe.

The universe in general is expected to continue on for several billion TIMES longer than it has so far.

The disintegration of reddit seeds the raw materials for the next good thing.

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smokinjoe 12 points 3 years ago

holy fuck

i'm just some asshole with a 13+ year old account that would bitch and moan in the comments section

i can't imagine dedicating so much of my time to build a wonderful community and then being unceremoniously cast away as part of a large purge of dissent

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thefloatingpoint 12 points 3 years ago

And the Braindrain continues…

Welcome aboard!

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nosut 11 points 3 years ago

I have to imagine the reason would have been this

This is a stickied comment on the pinned post from a deleted account around 11 hours ago. So I am assuming it was you. If I had to guess admin either decided to do it or another mod in that team complained to the admins because they wanted to take control.

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vaprz 16 points 3 years ago
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nosut 9 points 3 years ago

Considering the current state of other subs turning to NSFW content to hurt Reddits chances with advertisers I imagine that is what happened.

Seems like it was an innocent enough thing that happened at a bad time and you got hit by it by either accident or another mod stabbing you in the back.

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vaprz 8 points 3 years ago
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ghariksforge 11 points 3 years ago

Did you already create a community here on lemmy/kbin?

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lightrush 11 points 3 years ago

Word. Welcome aboard!

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MrComradeTaco 10 points 3 years ago

Fuck Reddit!! Fuck spez!! 🖕🖕

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dorkian-gray 10 points 3 years ago

Friend, is there any truth to the rumours of a lawsuit from current and former mods against Reddit, for back pay? I'm pretty convinced there's a case there, and your story is a prime example. One argument from Reddit might be that you and the community were the primary beneficiaries of your volunteer labour, but for Reddit to take your mod powers unilaterally sure makes them look like an employer rather than a maintainer of a public forum.

In the US, there are no circumstances under which a private for-profit company can legally accept volunteer labour like that. Further strengthening your case would be how much Facebook pays for moderation of their platform. Reddit built an entire business on the backs of people like you, and your stake in that should be recognised and compensated.

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Notyou 1 point 3 years ago

I just read a write up AOL that someone linked on another thread. AOL started selling ad space and changing the chatrooms up on their whim even though it was the unpaid works or volunteers that built the community. AOL expanded and looked for a pay out. It normally happens, but the way they did it destroyed any good faith between their unpaid workers and AOL proper. They ended up having a class action lawsuit and settled for 15 million. 5 to each, unpaid workers, lawyers, some charity. I could see a class action lawsuit building for this.

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reedts 10 points 3 years ago

I'm very glad that you decided to join us in the fediverse. Being a reddit refugee myself, I thank you for all your hard work for the reddit community

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Sh4d0w_H34rt 9 points 3 years ago

I think this is the real fall out not the subreddits going dark, the loss of users. I deleted my account because when I did use Reddit most of my time was spent avoiding toxic users rather than enjoying the platform.

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emn316 9 points 3 years ago

I just checked out that sub. Nothing of value will be lost.

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grundelgrump 4 points 3 years ago

Lmao I thought it was going to be celebrity news and gossip but it's literally just all tits.

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malachaiville 3 points 3 years ago

Do you think the posts that appear there are indicative of the posts that have always been there? I never really spent any time there, but I know a lot of subreddits have loosened moderation quite a bit after reopening, to make a point. Some are just straight porn now. Doesn't mean they always were before. What you see now is not necessarily what the subreddit was two weeks ago.

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emn316 1 point 3 years ago

I looked at the top all time posts just now. I stand by my statement.

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varnia 8 points 3 years ago

I just deleted my account on Reddit. This behavior is not acceptable anymore at all. Sorry for what happened to you, this must feel disappointing and betraying having put so much of yourself into the platform that simply kicked your out of the door.

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needthosepylons 7 points 3 years ago

Respect, brother/sister. Hope you'll find an enjoyable new playground here.

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Soulplayer 7 points 3 years ago

This is a really shitty thing they did. Especially if you have been there so long.

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staint 7 points 3 years ago

I manually deleted all of my comments from the past 13 years because I don't trust an app to complete that process. It took a long time, partly because I revisited a few threads along the way. I'm feeling great about my content being unavailable to Reddit, regardless of whether anyone cares or misses it.

Yes, I do miss Reddit. No, I will not go back. Not because I don't find any value in it -- I do -- but because my personal sense of justice gets in the way of wanting to contribute any longer. The time I used to spend scanning Reddit for new information or drama or funny anecdotes is now spent thinking about how I can contribute to my community in other ways.

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Ado 6 points 3 years ago

Wow, really shitty of them to not even bother reaching out.

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artisanrox 6 points 3 years ago

I'm so sorry for what they did. I hope you can feel at home on the Fediverse. Starting over sucks so bad, but I'm sure you will find awesome people here. Heck probably the same awesome people as there!

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Veedems 6 points 3 years ago

You add years upon years of value, get nothing more than a sense of fulfillment while they get paid, and get booted out.

I’m sorry, man. That has to sting.

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sylverstream 6 points 3 years ago

Sorry that this happened to you, must be very frustrating.

Reddit has shown its true face. There's no way back. I deleted my accounts last week and Lemmy has filled the gap and much more.

All the best. Cheers

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bbakk 6 points 3 years ago

How do you determine your user number?

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fsk 5 points 3 years ago

The lesson is that you don't put time and energy into something unless you own the website. If you're serious about moderating your own lemmy community, get your own domain, get your own hosting, and set it up yourself.

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someguy3 4 points 3 years ago

Let the tyranny begin.

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zeusbottom 4 points 3 years ago

So many stories like yours are coming out. Thanks for sharing.

The momentum definitely seems to swinging Lenny’s way. Glad to see it.

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Carter 4 points 3 years ago

That’s messed up! Sorry to hear!

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FrostBolt 4 points 3 years ago

Wow. That really sucks.

Welcome to the fediverse, though!

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BelleAriel 4 points 3 years ago

Sorry this happened to you. You deserve better.

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RaincoatsGeorge 4 points 3 years ago

Im right there with you man. I used reddit for over a decade and this did it for me. The fact that this company is pivoting from a positive open inclusive place to a 'Elon is doing it right and we want to copy that' approach is insanity. I guess spez saw that the dumpster fire approach seems to be working for Elon (well if you consider tanking a billion dollar company an effective strategy at least).

I don't know what the answer is. Where an equivalent site can be found. So far this has been the closest. It's obvious work still needs to be done but fundimentally lemmy corrected the major issues facing reddit which is putting too much control in the hands of a malignant narcissist.

Decentralization is obviously the future of the internet and lemmy is leading the way there.

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Miriadis 3 points 3 years ago

I'm sorry for what they put you through. I hope you find more joy here.

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Sir_Digby 2 points 3 years ago

@vaprzThe Fediverse is definitely the way to go for true freedom and inclusivity. Are there any other Reddit horror stories out there? Share your experiences

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Tygr 2 points 3 years ago

Absolutely terrible. Welcome to the fediverse though. Hope you’ll rebuild!

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smartwater0897 2 points 3 years ago

I'm glad you left reddit and you will find a much healthier community here I think. People seem happy and contribute a lot. :)

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ForestOrca 1 point 3 years ago

I somehow ended up as the sole moderator for r/Corfu. It's a VERY slow subreddit. I'm not sure if I should ignore it, or if there's something I can do with the tiny lever of 'power'.

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thanks for using Leebra!

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