What Should I Use Instead of Github? - Codeberg Gitlab and BitBucket
a year ago by mesa to c/programming
It also needs like 30 minutes to load a single comment of a PR.
If I wasn't forced by my job. I would stay as far away as possible from bitbycket.
grumbles about vertical videos
yeah it was codeberg for me
Just to add to the fray, here's what I've found:
Forgejo - install on a PC at home - works well, but you can't easily share your code with people outside your home. (https://forgejo.org/)
Codeberg - runs Forgejo under the hood - now you can share with people - but you really ought to donate to them if you use their service. (https://codeberg.org/)
PikaPods - will host a Gitea instance for you in their cloud - you can share code this way too - costs about $2 USD per month and is dead simple to set up. (https://www.pikapods.com/apps)
VPS - go set up your own virtual private server (on a free Oracle server, or other various hosts out there) and install Forgejo on that - more complicated, hope you like securing servers - share as you like. Free or maybe $$$.
Have fun!
Everything I see on codeberg.org says they want donations / members.
Maybe you're thinking of Jellyfin?
I've also heard of this: https://sourcehut.org/
Personally I like it because I tend to not use the github/lab web ui features.
But one thing that really never clicked with me is the email based issues workflow. I'd prefer to open issues like on github.
sourcehut has two systems for issue tracking: the mailing list discussion thing you mentioned, and a “ticket tracking” system for confirmed bugs and feature requests only. see e.g. https://todo.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/todo.sr.ht
@HelloRoot@lemy.lol mentioned the email workflow, and it's great. In addition:
it's a pay-for service, but it's cheap, given that you get:
- unlimited repos, public or private
- a nice build CI system
- mailing lists and an email interface to manage & interact with them
- ticket trackers
- a well-thought-out project home page system: you add as many repositories, ticket trackers, and making lists to the project, and pick a README for it. It's quite nice.
the web interface is extremely lightweight: little or no JS - it plays nicely with keyboard-driven browsers, TUI browsers, and even curl
did I mention the excellent build CI?
it supports both git and Mercurial repositories
It's also open source and self-hostable if you'd rather.
It's a fantastic service, and well with the tiny hosting price.
Gitea is nice too.
Good idea!
Bitbucket lol .I would rather not.
I used to love gitlab (great CI!) but the quality is really going down. Everything is slow and there UI is full of bugs (god I hate there virtual srolll in epics).
There is also sourcehut. They have the best CI for me but sadly issue / merge request management is mail based.
Gitea looks like it is going the gitlab way with enterprise support and cloud because they need to make money.
Forgejo is cool (how do you prononce it?) but I am really sad they based there CI on github action.
Bitbucket makes total sense for companies thanks to the Jira integration and wide range of integrations with the CI pipelines.
As a private person, why would you ever use an Atlassian product?
Whats the reason for it to suck in your opinions?
I think it works pretty good. Pull-Requests are easy to follow, you can even suggest minor code changes directly in your comments or create Jira tickets for follow-up tasks. Commit history is nicely readable. CI works very robust and has lots of possibilities. Project level permissions and branch settings are easy to create. I have nothing to complain really
I've not used it much, I think I only had to use it in two instances due to customers. From what I remember, the structure and navigation was not hierarchical making navigating very inefficient and irritating.
I'm used to GitLab (and Phabricator in the past, and outside of work GitHub), and much prefer their repo, project, group representation and review UI/UX/workflow.
What's a good alternative that allows private repos? I've not yet got a home lab setup yet but I still have some repos I want to keep private since they're pretty dogshit so don't want them to publicly represent me but they still mean something to me personally or are for something to reference when doing newer projects.
Who needs access to these private repos? There's always raw git (has a web server if needed). That's what I've been doing since moving to codeberg for my public projects and eventually i might set up a private forgejo server.
Sourcehut also offers public, private, and unlisted repos
I said I can't selfhost yet and the reason for having my repo on somewhere other than one of my devices is so that they can all access it and so it's essentially backed up away from my potential file handling mistakes.
Thanks for the source but recommendation though, I'll look into it.
I've just migrated most of my repos from Codeberg to Sourcehut (sr.ht) and I really like it. I've got nothing against Codeberg or Forgejo, they're awesome, but I just really like the simple design of Sourcehut.
The git send-email workflow was new to me, but I started liking it fast! I've never really enjoyed the web-based MR/PR workflow of GitHub anyway (read: it feels very slow).
Sourcehuts CI system if also really nice overall, although there are some things I miss from the great CI that GitLab has. Mostly I miss only running pipelines when tags are pushed, and stuff like that.
https://tangled.sh/ is looking like an interesting alternative imo.
It uses ATProto (the bluesky protocol) and allows you to self host the git part and/or your personal data (e.g. comments that you leave on other repos). It's still very much in development as is the ATProto itself, so it doesn't seem mature enough for serious use yet. ATProto does for example not handle private accounts/posts yet which means that all your tangled repos have to be public.
Ok I understand that you don't like bluesky for whatever reason, but could you actually formulate why so that it's possible to have a discussion instead?
Codeberg seems like the best option ATM for me: https://codeberg.org/...
For personal use gitolite works pretty well.
Never heard of it, interesting.
personally i use codeberg now but i still have a softspot for beanstalk. i started using it back when private repos on github weren't free. it's primarily a paid service but i just have a soft spot for it (maybe it's just the nostalgia talking).
I think it's due to multiple reasons, and the threshold of rejecting the course of GitHub/Microsoft/the USA seems to have reached a level where GitHub stopped being the "default" place to be for a number of projects already.
And if you are at a point were you need a Codeberg account anyway already, why not move your own projects there (or use it for new ones)?
Not to mention, the Forgejo project is at a stage were it feels like your bug report/feature request/contribution has an actual impact.
I like Fossil ( fossil-scm.org ). Sync public repos to chiselapp.com, keep private ones on my ssd or sync to my vps shell account. Resistant to US cloud takedown, e.g. if you're running logistics to defend Greenland 😉
I'm looking at moving my repositories to AWS S3. That doesn't give me extra functionality beyond publishing my repositories, but the reality is that I've yet to see any pull requests or much beyond a couple of issues.
I'm loathe to jump into the next big thing, only for it to go broke, or get bought by some random company and get enshitified.
Thank you for the suggestion. I had a quick look.
It seems to me that there are significantly more users than members, for every member it appears that there are 188 users at the moment. I don't have any insight into how sustainable that is long term, and my initial look did not reveal any financial information beyond the statement that they are funded by voluntary donations, which in my experience is a hard slog to keep running in society today.
Man I rely on GitHub pages though
There are a few options
- cloudflare pages if you're not against cloudflare.
- sourcehut pages
- codeberg pages - though they list it at in maintenance mode atm so i wouldn't put anything critical on there
I personally would just avoid netflify (something about them sending a bill for a DDoS that wasn't mitigated gave me a bad taste).
Ofc nothing making you need to move right now, but id explore options so you have a gameplan
I can't recommend GitLab* but they also have a pages feature that I use. E.g.: https://bss03.gitlab.io/halogen-lambda/
*: At least one of their leaders is a MAGA collaborator, and the organization is pushing AI in the common, dishonest methods.
@programming.dev
Welcome to the main community in programming.dev! Feel free to post anything relating to programming here!
Cross posting is strongly encouraged in the instance. If you feel your post or another person's post makes sense in another community cross post into it.
Hope you enjoy the instance!
Rules
Rules
- Follow the programming.dev instance rules
- Keep content related to programming in some way
- If you're posting long videos try to add in some form of tldr for those who don't want to watch videos
Wormhole
Follow the wormhole through a path of communities !webdev@programming.dev
go to feed...
@programming.dev
Welcome to the main community in programming.dev! Feel free to post anything relating to programming here!
Cross posting is strongly encouraged in the instance. If you feel your post or another person's post makes sense in another community cross post into it.
Hope you enjoy the instance!
Rules
Rules
- Follow the programming.dev instance rules
- Keep content related to programming in some way
- If you're posting long videos try to add in some form of tldr for those who don't want to watch videos
Wormhole
Follow the wormhole through a path of communities !webdev@programming.dev
go to feed...
Thankfully, I am not at that point of desperation to consider Atlassian a valid alternative.
save