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nik282000 113 points a year ago

Fuckin thumbs.db and lost+found hiding on every USB stick.

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Hawke 61 points a year ago

Seriously fuck thumbs.db anywhere it can be found.

THIS IS WHY NTFS HAS ALTERNATE DATA STREAMS, USE THEM YOU FUCKERS YOU CREATED IT.

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tetris11 21 points a year ago

EXPLAIN HOW

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Hawke 32 points a year ago

Alternate data streams look like normal files but with an appended identifier.

For example test.txt:stream1 is an alternate data stream of test.txt. Move or copy the file and the ADS goes with it.

They can be created like other files (“echo > test.txt:stream1”)

You can see them with “dir /r” at the command line.

You can even have an alternate data stream with no corresponding file. In my opinion this is what thumbs.db should have been.

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tetris11 16 points a year ago

you are shitting me, that's so cool. This command only works for NTFS?

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ILikeBoobies 10 points a year ago

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Hawke 2 points a year ago

Yes well you’re not wrong.

Although I use ext4.

For Linux, the equivalent is Extended Attributes, although they come with significant limitations.

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thermal_shock 1 point a year ago

Easiest fix, change the folder view to another, like "list", then back and it won't be locked anymore. Might take a second or two, but will unlock.

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Hawke 3 points a year ago

Not sure what you’re talking about. “Locked”?

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thermal_shock 1 point a year ago

You mean list? Click these icons and change the folder view from icons to something else, like "list" or "details", then thumbs.db can be deleted without windows bitching.

You can also change under View menu at the top.

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Agent641 7 points a year ago

Or as my parents call them, "A virus!"

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Echolynx 7 points a year ago

I have lost+found on my Linux drives... what am I doing wrong?

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luciferofastora 14 points a year ago

Nothing.

If you run fsck (filesystem check), it will look for blocks of data that look like files, but have no actual filename attached. Simplified, that can happen as a result of unexpected shutdowns (like kernel panic) or IO conflicts (where one process deletes the file but the other writes data to where the file used to be). If fsck finds such "lost files", it will put them in lost+found on the respective volume.

If you have trouble with missing files after a crash, it might be worth looking for them there. Otherwise, it probably doesn't matter.

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vithigar 5 points a year ago

What drives me batty about thumbs.db is that on a modern high end machine with an nvme drive it's not meaningfully faster then just regenerating thumbnails on demand every time, and in fact can be slower under some circumstances. Yet there's no "I don't need this turn it off" option.

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Swedneck 1 point a year ago

also now that we have jpegxl you can just load the first bit of data for a thumbnail, lmao

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AnUnusualRelic 1 point a year ago

What about remote drves though?

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vithigar 3 points a year ago

For whatever insane windows-y reason, having a thumbs.db file on a network share is one of those slower scenarios for me. Which is odd because you'd expect that to be the kind of situation where it's actually useful.

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FunctionallyLiterate 45 points a year ago

Meh, that's nothing - just look at the multitude of directories forced upon any storage device you plug into something running Android.

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luciferofastora 4 points a year ago

Isn't it just SD cards it automatically prepares to use as an extension of the main filesystem by automatically mirroring the default filestructure onto it?

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FunctionallyLiterate 2 points a year ago

I usually only plug in SD cards, so I finally just grabbed my SSD to check - same thing happened. What kind of storage devices were you thinking it wouldn't happen to?

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luciferofastora 1 point a year ago

Well, I thought it only did it to inserted micro-SD cards, not external storage, but then, I never did plug external storage into a phone, so I guess I was wrong.

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Samskara 32 points a year ago

thumbs.db says hello

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MadMadBunny 6 points a year ago

Don’t come anywhere near us

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dohpaz42 23 points a year ago

Wait until they cross paths with the ._DS_Store abomination.

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luciferofastora 2 points a year ago

What's that? It rings a bell and I've been wondering all thread whether I misremembered the correct name.

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renegadespork 10 points a year ago

The most reliable fingerprint.

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buttnugget 7 points a year ago

It’s a good thing I never created OS file systems because I would have balls.chin files everywhere. Well, the truth is that someone would have forked it just to change that, then I would have raged and abandoned the project, then a competent maintainer would have grabbed it. What a world.

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Korne127 7 points a year ago

Hahahaha that's actually hilarious

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magnetosphere 7 points a year ago

I’m such a Mac user that I don’t even get it. I am simultaneously laughing at myself and embarrassed.

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argh_another_username 43 points a year ago

MacOS create these directories to store metadata. But because it starts with a dot, you don’t normally see it.

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Samskara 11 points a year ago

macOS only does this on network shares or external storage that’s formatted in neither HFS+ nor APFS, Apple‘s file system formats.

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TheRealKuni 17 points a year ago

Right, so anything that might be used with other machines.

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Samskara 12 points a year ago

ZIP files created with macOS‘ file manager Finder can also contain DS_Store files.

Yes, the idea is to support macOS features on non native file systems.

If you want to look it up, some of this goes back to HFS, a file system with a resource fork and data fork. It allows you to do pretty cool stuff.

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boonhet 2 points a year ago

Huh? I've seen it on the git untracked files list on APFS drives, I'm pretty sure.

In fact I know some companies just add it to .gitignore for that reason

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tophneal 2 points a year ago

To add to this, it does not do this on drives/folders added to the indexing exclusion list

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dohpaz42 17 points a year ago

Depending on how you interact with your computer, and when you started being a Mac user, I’m not surprised.

Starting at macOS 10.12 16A238m, Finder will not display .DS_Store files (even if you ran defaults write com.apple.finder AppleShowAllFiles YES in Terminal to show hidden system files).

Wikipedia

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not_IO 2 points a year ago

Apple treats it's users like children, i would feel so not respected. Yeah you bought the machine but don't worry your pretty little head with these confusing files

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Psythik 6 points a year ago

That's cause they're hidden from you. The file does not show up on MacOS, even if you enable showing hidden files.

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Ging 5 points a year ago

Am too poor to afford mac, what this mean?

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Luci 31 points a year ago

It’s a folder that macOS will leave on usb sticks with meta data and stuff I think

Idk I delete it on sight.

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Ging 4 points a year ago

Very cool, I'm still kinda confused why .DS_Store is the identifier for such a folder but still cool Thanks

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vodka 14 points a year ago

It's a file that is never visible on Mac systems, it stands for Desktop Service. It just saves stuff like your zoom settings for the specific folder, metadata for the files in the folder etc

It is automatically generated in every single folder you access on a Mac system that isn't a native Apple file system. So for example a Windows formatted USB stick, or a network share.

It is however visible on non-mac systems as a file called ".DS_Store"

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bitwolf 5 points a year ago

On Unix and Unix-like systems when a file or directory name starts with a . its hidden by default.

This convention is maintained in the UI for MacOS so you don't see the .DS_Store directory unless you ask to show hidden files.

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luciferofastora 6 points a year ago

Apparently not even then, in the case of .DS_Store. Another comment quoted from Wikipedia:

Starting at macOS 10.12 16A238m, Finder will not display .DS_Store files (even if you ran defaults write com.apple.finder AppleShowAllFiles YES in Terminal to show hidden system files).

Wikipedia

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AnUnusualRelic 1 point a year ago

On any non Mac native filesystem I think. Anything that MacOS can read but isn't the original filesystem (it used to be HFS, a long time ago, I have no idea what it is nowadays) will be peppered with those metadata files, disk, floppy, thumb drive, whatever.

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maccentric 4 points a year ago

.Spotlight-V100 says hello!

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