The audacity of thinking you have such an important view on life that random people need to hear it. They also need to come to your clubhouse reguarly and give you money.
The audacity of thinking you have such an important view on life that random people need to hear it. They also need to come to your clubhouse reguarly and give you money.
Devils advocate (tee hee), if you believe that you have the answer to all sadness, are you an asshole if you are not sharing it (especially if sharing is low cost)?
On one hand yeah they're stupid annoying
On the other hand, I'm pretty sure for like Mormons and JWs where they're sending over like kids barely out of highschool for missionary work in another country that's the entire point. They're not there to convert anyone, they're there to instil a sense of fear into these kids by showing them that everyone who isn't apart of their church hates them even though they're only trying to 'help'. Being rude to them just proves their church's point.
Or: actually the fastest way to get put on their blacklist is to be really genuinely nice (but still firm) to the missionaries because you're proving them wrong about how mean and horrible the outside world is
I've heard that before but really wonder if it's true. My last encounter with (I believe Mormons though it's been a LOT of years ago) was while we were eating dinner. The front door was open with the glass storm door closed. They came to the door, knocked, then stared at us while we were eating dinner as a family. We stared back and they proceeded to knock another 3 times before leaving. I mean, regardless of what you are at the door for that's just rude as fuck so how would they expect a nice response?!
knock 3 times
oh boy, the knock 3 times rule, that brings back some memories. I spent a miserable 6 months as a Mormon missionary and my first companion would always knock 3 times. I always felt it was rude, especially when he would do it at a house where we knew someone was home and just not answering the door.
For me it's anyone that comes to my doorstep trying to sell something (including religion). To get to that point you have to walk past TWO "no soliciting" signs. That makes the person blind, incompetent, or both.
I’m not rude to these guys. They believe in fairytales but I’m polite. I just tell them I’m a firm atheist and there’s nothing they can say to sway me. They usually thank me and leave.
I like to show them that atheists are good people instead of devil-possessed or whatever they think we are.
No one. It's too much energy to be spent on people that I dislike.
I wish I was made of stone.
I'm the same. Spam caller? Just hang up. Someone cuts me up in traffic? I'll be upset but not gonna waste any time on the ass who did it. People with dumb ideas? Tell them what you think but close the conversation or walk away.
I remember in a tech shop someone ranting after being asked for their email address when paying. Kept a few of us in the queue waiting and what did he win from it?? Did he really feel good after shouting at shop staff?
Can't see any win from being rude to anyone. Just live and let live man.
It’s not on other customers if a shop has you waiting. It’s on the shop for making it needlessly complex. It’s like blaming someone who is reading out their coupon numbers: they are the user. Not the dev team. Take your complaint to the right people who can make the difference to the business model. Long queues isn’t the customer’s fault. It’s on how that business is managed. you could hold your breath if you ever think your happiness is a prerogative by another customer’s responsibility.
And while I agree about the energy thing with scammers, I do not agree with calling it a waste of time if someone else is going to stand up to it.
Scammers take advantage of the vulnerable elderly. So good on the ones who slow them down. No need to minimize their effort by calling it a waste of time. Like you said : live and let live.
Antimaskers, antivaxxers, "stop the steal" assholes, homophobes/terfs/bigots in general. If your ideas injure and kill others, I am going to treat you like someone that spreads ideas that injure and kill others not as someone to be debated in a "civil" manner.
I like the cut of your jib!
Holocaust deniers. There is no excuse, fuck em
I work in IT and occasionally encounter super sexist people who want a man to fix their computers. I'm not rude to these people while on the phone with them and I make sure to be extra kind. I totally talk shit after hanging up though. Fuck anyone who thinks I can't do my job because I'm a woman.
I hate that. I used to run an auto business and some customers wanted to speak to a man. I'd always tell them that this woman here has the most experience in the shop and if they don't want to hear her, they can go to the next shop.
I wish I could tell some people who talk down to me to just fuck off. It would be so satisfying.
You can, but you have to be able to accept the consequences lol.
I mean, you're not wrong lol
I used to work at a lube shop with a female tech and occasionally we'd get the same shit from old dudes where they didn't want her to touch their car because she was a woman. I always made them wait for the shift change because "we don't switch positions until lunch break and she's in the pit". Have fun sitting for 4 hours assholes. She was one of the better techs we had anyway having actually gotten a certification.
Thats kinda sad that people do that... your fully capable of helping her. Theres enogh stories that show she will never have "the right person for the job".
I'm rude to those and I'm a guy. Women are as good as men at our job and everyone who thinks otherwise is an idiot lacking respect and I don't respect that.
Most women in tech are not very good
Citation needed.
Anyway you don't have to be very good to be better than 95% of the population, because most people can barely operate outlook.
I also resent the implication I have to be a super nerd to be good at IT. It's not actually that hard, you just have to bother to read the instructions.
Sure. It's always hard to know exactly what kind of skills we are even taking about here. IT is a huge area.
You don't have to be a super nerd to be good at IT but you do have to read instructions and learn things, which means you are actually interested in it. That's all it takes.
Most girls are not interested in those things so they become project managers or IT managers and other things that are more interesting to them. That's my experience at least.
Just. Stop. Digging!
We get it; you're a "Nice Guy that has helped plenty of little ladies figure out their career paths because their stupid little heads don't know better".
Good god - do you have any idea how much of a tool you sound like? I hope you don't have supervisory authority over anyone. I pity them if you do, and cheer the eventual hostile workplace/harassment lawsuit brought against you and your employer/enabler.
Lmao wow. Way to insult an entire demographic of people.
They managed to sound sexist and also insult all IT people because "if you have a personal life you clearly are bad at your job".
I'm mad as hell. Pissed because of the sexism but mad because how fucking dare he say that programmers can't be good if they have an actual life? I've been very appreciated in all the jobs I've done and turns out that being able to give several solutions fast and being reliable is way more important than coding on your free time.
I'm just sorry that they can't actually be good at their job by investing their work hours into work/training/testing, it is what it is. Yeah there's people with disabilities that need to invest more than the usual programmer to be good at their job, but that's how it is and expecting everyone is the same is pathetic.
Oh, to have the confidence of an average man.
I had the chance to bring on some summer help. Two kids from the local career center. A guy and a girl. Halfway through the summer, I let the guy go because he had no self-start, desire to learn, or eagerness for projects. The girl is great with people, an information sponge, and seeks out new challenges.
And because of attitudes like yours, she'll have to work twice as hard to appear half as competent as the lazy ass I let go, once she gets out in the soul-crushing tech industry.
So, in summation, eat rocks.
Okay boomer
I'm very good at IT and I can assure you that when the clock hits the time, my laptop gets folded and I switch the screens to my games, where I pay no mind to work anymore. I'm a man.
Fuck off with that attitude.
It's clear you have never met a woman..
Source: a woman who beat every other male in every grade in my comp sci degree and is top of the class.
Also has a life because WOMEN CAN MULTITASK APPARENTLY.
Solicitation at my door.
I give them one chance to go away. If they press it, I demand to see their license, which "Oh it's in the truck" or "it's in the office" or "I am not soliciting, I am giving you a FREE ESTIMATE..." I call the cops. Fuck em. Non-emergency number, I state a description of a suspicious man who refused to show me a solicitation license, and kept asking me to open my door. I describe the direction they are going with dates, streets, and times.
A few get nabbed. Some of these guys are known to the police because they are possibly casing your house and they have a ton of camera evidence of them peeping in windows and gates.
Non-American here.
I have lived in three different countries and solicitors are extremely rare. And in the few cases one ringed my door it was for charity or school kids collecting donations for some summer trip (not sure if this is called soliciting or not).
Is that bad in America that you need to put a sign at your door? How frequent they visit?
Depends massively on where you are. Out in a really rural area, you'll probably get one a year tops. Middle class suburbia, but not a gated community? Probably substantially more, like 1+ a week.
I'm in the suburbs but up a couple of hills so I generally get fewer than 1 a month (that I know of. I have my doorbell disconnected and live with others so it's possible I get more and just don't know about it)
I think it depends on where you live. In my case, I see about 4-5 a week on my security cameras, but only a few a year ignore the sign. On nextdoor dot com, it's discussed and video camera footage is shared, so we know which neighborhoods are targeted. Mine is because of the aging population of upper middle income folks.
These people saying one a week must be living in hell, but they're definitely outliers. I've lived in the same spot for three years here in Seattle without ever having a solicitor come to my door.
Pedos that ruined lemmy shitpost
Morally degenerate hackers payed by ____ to shut down the competition.
Do you really think 7000 CSAM a minute is really a bunch of pedos that collectively decide to abandon their .onion blacksite because posting on lemmy is sooo much better for them? Hellz to the noooo
Its a looser, an abuser of social media or many with a butt ton of alts
Wether its reddit or not, reddit still doesnt denounce the actions of these people, its already in reddit admin blood.
They closed the community because of that
In general, yes
They did this to lemmy to attack the fediverse.
I like to ask the phone scammers if their moms are proud of them. I had one a few days ago who got so pissed off by that question that he invited me to suck his dick and then called me an asshole before hanging up, lol. Damn, social security agent Robert, you angry.
I fucked with a phone scammer so bad once that he kept calling me for two weeks to abuse me. I answered every call with, “You mad, bro?” He was fucking infuriated.
Three years later I’m still waiting for Ramal to pool together all his rupees and fly over here and kill me like he promised.
What do you even mean by this?
it's a term used to belittle women, by implying that they can't make "important" decisions by themselves while also implying that they must have a man with them to be able to fullfill life.
I believe that the commenter above wrote it as a joke, by roleplaying one of the people the original commenter complained about and giving an extra example.
Thanks
"Sure, sport". "You're welcome, tiger." "No problem, little buddy."
I keep hoping someone will keep up the stupid pet names with me so I can just make the responses more and more absurd every time, but they generally stop after the first one. I have sooooo many ideas in the tank and I'm just waiting for the excuse to call someone porkchop or pickleface.
These pet names are lovely to those who want/expect it, and annoying and demeaning to those that dont. Im sorry others use these names on you or others in your life that dont like it. It sounds recductive but, ask them to stop, most dont want to hurt others and if they know you dont like it and ignore your request they are assholes that deserve the worst.
No. I should not have to ask grown adults not to call me these names. These are co-workers, acquaintances, strangers, not people who should be assuming any level of familiarity with me. The default should be basic respect.
"Just this. Just that." Stop telling the people getting shit on to make excuses and accomodations for the behavior of people with power.
I feel like im not understanding your situation well enugh to comment. I seem to have not relized how systematic it is. I dont know how to help.
Street preachers
They're awful and disruptive.
People who eat at restaurants/fast food and act like it's okay to treat the employees like shit.
Like bro idgaf about your bad day. I've already dealt with 300 other people's bad days and you really don't want to deal with mine.
Call center scammers pretending to be "Microsoft Support" and the like. Especially if they call again after I already told them to F off the first time. The last time one of them called I told them to wait a moment, set the phone next to my speakers and then blasted The Mermaid Sisters - F[$%&]ng Bullsh*t Song at full volume until he hung up.
Super petty and not at all mature, but soooo satisfying.
You know what would be cool? An app that takes over the call and uses chatGPT and text to speech to fuck with them. Just press a button and bam! Theyre going through creepy/gross roleplay with a mindless AI chat bot
Lenny already exists!
Bigots. I ain't bothering to be polite about calling out your racist/sexist/homo/transphobic shit and correcting your shit-brained thinking. If you're a bigot, you're a piece of shit and will be treated as such.
I feel like I've seen your username before. It's probably just because it's distinctive, though.
I also choose this guys pointless comments.
Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, and generally anyone who wants to convert me to their fucked up religion when they knock on my door. Why should I be civil when they bother me at my house on my time off to dictate what I should believe in? If I'm interested I'd go to them and not the other way around.
If a JW approaches, just politely tell them you're an apostate, and they'll leave you alone.
Those people are genuinely brain washed into believing they are going save your life if they convert you.
If you tell them you're an apostate, you're telling them you're ex JW, and you've been exiled, so they'll turn around and refuse to talk to you. I say be polite because they're just humans trying to "save your life"
The apostate thing won't always work. It requires a couple of steps. The terminology you want to use is to say "I'm DF'd" or "I'm disfellowshipped". That means they are not actually allowed to talk to you. They won't even say okay, they just leave. Works 100% of the time IME.
Source: I'm disfellowshipped.
It sounds like it would work, im unshure if thats the safest or least safe way of convincing them to leave you alone. depends on if they think your a lost cause, a satan warshipper or re saveable
I've done that actually. It's only been 2 months since that encounter but here's hoping.
Their tactics are adapting: those motherfuckers started showing up at my house and they bring KIDS to ring the doorbell and give the elevator pitch. I can't in good conscience tell a groomed/brainwashed child to eat my entire ass and I can't even really be rude to the women standing behind them because they'll just be like, "see how rude and awful nonbelievers are?"
One of my prouder moments when I was younger and thinner, was answering the door for some JW's, while naked and handcuffed to my girlfriend.
They were working their way through our apartment complex, so we came up with a stupid plan.
I used to answer the door naked when I lived in a town where that was not a crime. Some of them try to lock eyes and pretend it's not happening, some just run. Either way, I was amused.
You have to trespass well onto private property to get to my house now and it's just to far a walk so I don't get any JWs anymore.
I used to make sport of proselytizers, seeing how long I could string them along, but these days if someone hops my 12 foot fuck-off privacy fence and walks the 100 yards down my driveway past the no trespassing signs I will likely have already called the cops by the time they reach my door. So they would be met with hostility.
People who want to cut in my lane without a turn signal.
The charity telemarketers (it's actually just one particular dude, lile 50% of the time) that call me once or twice a week asking for donations to one of a dozen different charity organization. That's apparently what I get for donating like $50 to a Firefighters' charity 4 years ago.
Charity gets you punished, folks.
I mean, is it rude to just hang up? Cause that's what I do.
No, it's fair enough. I usually try to give them some kind of reassurance that I don't hate them, I hate their bosses. Just because it must be an absolutely miserable job and they could probably do with a kind word. But sometimes, it's hard to do that and putting the phone down is better than berating them!
Thats an absolutely fair stance
Sure. That's how it works. People do crappy jobs because they like doing crappy jobs. They could choose any job in the world to keep a roof over their heads. But being paid badly to get shouted at a lot is just what turns them on.
Tech support scammers are in the same psycological position as them and that is more complex than just wanting to be a bad person. Corruption by desperation and greed.
There's a great documentary on HBO called Telemarketers that talks about this business model and how it's essentially a fraud. And they address how if someone ever donates they're put on a list of chumps to call back forever
Homophobic people. Don't care if its your religion, or if im called religious phobic (which is a stupid term).
That sounds like religious perversion. you can technically be a cristian, and also beleave the devel deserves some warship too. And that racism somehow doesnt conflict with "love thy negbor as thyself".
The whole telemarketer / debt collector thing is one of the top reasons why I wouldn't want to move away from the Pixel series of phones. The Call Screen feature just automatically declines their calls for me.
Funnily enough, if you bring up the screen while its active, there's an option something along the lines of "Do not call back" (or maybe its the Report as Spam button) that gives them a very aggressive but "nice" way of telling them to kick rocks, and to remove my number from their list.
Call Screen is legitimately my favorite thing about my pixel, having switched from an Edge about a year ago.
My only wish is that I could change the script on it. At one point I thought it'd be hilarious to just pipe it to chatGPT and let them talk to each other.
By automatically declines, you mean you have the assistant answer, then you select your response from that screen, right? It annoys me that I even have to screen the call at all, but I guess it's better than what you get on most phones.
No, it will do so automatically - could just be the setting configuration I have, but I don't have to actually bring it up. Even if I'm using my phone when the call comes in, I'll get a notification that says "Screening unknown call" and it'll decline on its own. If I click the notification it brings up the active call screen dialog and I can watch it in real time / select the options myself if I want to.
I'm not sure why yours isn't doing so automatically, perhaps double check your settings in the phone app? I can't remember if I had to explicitly flip the "automatic" setting in there originally.
Child abusers are worse but are the same monster as animal abusers. Its because kids are our own species and more intelegent. the former and ladder implies things hard to put in words. Id say same kind of auful.
Trump Supporters and Pro-Lifers.
Go fuck yourselves assholes.
parents who try to bully referees and umpires at little league games
Its a serios issue that was given the pettiest of examples. This behavor is really terrifying the perp's for negbors (victems).

Glad to hear it lol and happy to share!
While I don’t deny that an uncomfortable proportion of people who are Christian are racist, sexist, homo/transphobic, xenophobic, etc, but to clump everyone into that category is straight up religion based discrimination.
I think you are frustrated by Christians who are bad people, not Christians in general. I know a lot of Christians, some who are terrible, and some who are genuinely good people. I also could say the same about the atheist people I know, the Jewish people I know or the Muslim people I know.
I think the problem is discrimination, which is common among (and contradictory to) Christianity.
Christianity teaches intolerance of homosexuals and trans people. Full stop. Fuck them and anyone who still wants to be labeled as such. If you do not agree with those teachings then it’s time to find a new label to set yourself apart from them. To me it is akin to saying I’m a Nazi but I’m not racist.
I am not frustrated by bad people who identify as Christians I am disgusted by what Christianity has become. The funny thing is that if they actually followed the teachings of Christ we would be having a different conversation.
I dunno about that. I think almost all of big box churches and even medium sized churches teach that. I would guess that over 90% of Christians believe that nonsense. But I would argue that they are not actually practicing the teachings of Jesus. Jesus loved everybody — sex workers, diseased people, etc. if Jesus were alive today I wholeheartedly believe he would be among trans folks and accepting them for who they are. Ultimately LGBTQ+ folks are fighting for the right to love which is also what Jesus fought for.
The Bible does not tell a story of Jesus rejecting homosexual people or transgender people, and in fact tells a story of someone who would love everyone, including the ones most Christians hate. Full stop.
Church + religion != Christianity.
For what it’s worth I am a staunch atheist.
It’s possible we are misunderstanding each other because that is exactly my point. Jesus taught about love and acceptance, and don’t even get me started about what he would think of capitalism.
For what it’s worth I am not an atheist. I have no idea and honestly no one does. I would consider myself agnostic I suppose.
The assholes are the real christians and always have been from the beginning. The peace love joy shit is just propaganda, only to be brought out like a set of fine china until you let them take the power to kill you.
As a former Christian, I approve of this message
Ditto on all telemarketers/robo calls. Useful tip: if you know its a robo/marketer/scam answer the phone with "Thank you for calling, can I get your last name first and your order number?" then progressively and aggressively keep asking for personal details of them and their order.
I'm generally polite to everybody, but I do believe that it's immoral to be a debt collector, so I judge them pretty hard inwardly. I'd live in a tent or get a job flipping burgers before I would stoop to that level.
If your livelihood relies on hurting others, you're a bad person.
Republicans, Trump supporters, and family that still support the current Republican party. They have to know to a large degree what they're supporting and deserve no tolerance or excuse for their support of it.
Typically I'm just not rude to people unless they're rude to me
The people carrying petitions that follow you around trying to get you to sign it. Not the ones that stay in one place though
It's hard for me to be straight up rude to people, but I will make things generally more difficult and take longer than necessary. I make it a game to see how long I can keep a person talking. It's amazing how a few simple "Oh, really?" and "Dang, that's crazy" will keep someone on the hook.
Religious fundamentalists attacking others, tunnel vision marketers who talk over people in need just so they can try and say their spiel at them on the street, assholes who try to distract only the people who are clearly in an emergency. Markelon muskerberg, anything trump, Martin shkrelli, brock Turner and Aaron perskey and Alan Turner, anything Scientology, the sacklers, mark forkner, big pharma, anyone DuPont, Coca Cola, Koch brothers, spez, rooshv,
The convicted rapist Brock Turner? That Brock Turner, the rapist?
Why even pick up? If they aren't a number I recognize, they can leave a message.
I used to get cold calls about selling my house, daily. I finally started just waiting for them to confirm that is what they are calling about and tell them I want 5 times the market value. They now only call like once or twice every 6 months.
There was this asshole who wanted to buy my grandparents' house after they both died. He'd text my sister, brother, dad, maybe even my mom. Fortunately not me. It's so insidious because he probably got all the info from my grandfather's obituary. He just needed our names and town and then could look up the phone numbers on those "people search" sites or phone books. The house hadn't even been put on sale yet, and we were not the executors. What kind of sicko reads the obits so they can buy a house? And doesn't even bother to go through a realtor or attend an open house when the time comes. The gall of some people is unbelievable. I'm glad my uncle gave it to one of the first families that formally offered after attending the open house.
Found the scam caller.
calls from China, speaking Chinese. usually I just say the few words in that language I know to waste their time.
Anyone pushing their religion to others.
I've had parents come to me and demand that their child would be excluded from classes involving sex education or something else they think is "wrong". Simple but strict "no" usually infuriates them.
I will teach every student according to the national curriculum and the matter will not be discussed further. Then the parents threaten to take this to the principal and see me reprimanded. Good luck with that, our principal is much stricter than me about going by the book.
Probably always be rude to this guy I work with. He threw a baby tantrum at a work Foosball tournament, then hid in his cubicle for a week and then just started showing up again without an apology to anyone.
He expects us to just forget all that?
Is this a skit from I Think You Should Leave?
Wait what? Hahaha
I'm not really rude by default to anyone. If I'm in a bad mood I guess I can sometimes get rude when irritated. But I feel like all humans deserve some base level of respect and courtesy.
If it's someone horrible like a serial killer or child rapist or something I wouldn't even be rude, just not interact at all with them.
But generally speaking, people are all humans. Scam callers are third worlders from poor countries. If I lived in Nigeria making less than $800 a month in salary, I wouldn't feel bad about scamming rich westerners. We live in prosperity and luxury whereas they get the shit end of the stick. I don't blame them.
Debt collectors are just doing their job. They have a family to feed, have hopes and dreams, probably hate their job, etc.
I don't like Trumpers generally but I try to be polite and friendly. I like planting seeds of doubt into their mind. Criticize Republicans in ways they can understand.
"Man Trump is such a shithead, he doesn't believe in free market capitalism"
They hear the phrase "free market capitalism" and know it's something they're supposed to support, so they ask for clarification
"Well he put taxes on imports on foreign goods so now steel is more expensive for regular Americans. It's anti-free market"
They sometimes just shrug and look a bit concerned. Republicans have a lot of little inconsistencies. "Fiscal conservatives" but they balloon the national debt everytime. "Freedom and liberty" but they try banning books, drag shows, abortions, trans surgeries, etc. Reagan is an idol but he supported getting rid of guns, gave amnesty to illegals, his economic advisor Friedman supported open borders, etc.
It's really not that hard to throw a little cognitive dissonance their way. It only works if they see you as a friend though. If they think of you as an enemy or threat, they will immediately get defensive and you'll probably just make them more set in their beliefs.
Linguistic elitists—for example, people who shout that "the Blacks don't speak good English" or who get pissed off that "I could care less" is an idiom that exists.
I was a linguistics major in college and, sorry not sorry, language is malleable and it changes over time. You can't stop it. Look the French—the Académié Française can try to legislate the language all they want, but nobody says la coussin de sécurité, they just say l'airbag.
People who bring a baby on a long flight for anything other than a dying or recently deceased relative.
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Who? Religious people at my doorstep.
Reason? They came to MY doorstep with their BS.
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