Average ideological debate

10 months ago by Bad to c/comicstrips

[two characters are arguing in a break room, coffee machine and all]

[teal, holding a coffee cup] Without mentioning avocado, explain to me what guacamole is

[purple, taken aback] Huh?!

[zoom on teal's very smug face, the coffee steaming in front of them] I knew it You can't Your guac ideology doesn't work Heh Pft Owned

[purple looks blasรฉ and has no words]

https://thebad.website/...

Postmortal_Pop 140 points 10 months ago

A creamy, fat rich, savory fruit paste traditionally served with Hispanic food. It serves to accent the seasoning of spicy dishes by balancing the heat to allow more of the complex flavors through. It's also popularly consumed on its own as a dip. While some of these things can be accomplished by sour cream or humus, both have their own distinctive qualities that prevent them from being a 1:1 comparison.

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Klear 45 points 10 months ago

Do you want to take this inside, guac boy?

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Postmortal_Pop 10 points 10 months ago

Ideally yes, it's cold in these parts and I'm not fond of pants.

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RampantParanoia2365 2 points 10 months ago

Is there chips and guacamole?

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ZoteTheMighty 1 point 10 months ago

I'd go anywhere with someone who identifies as guac boy.

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Foxfire 44 points 10 months ago

"That savory fruit in your description? Nothing more than a direct stand in for the very avocado I told you couldn't be used to form your description. You don't get to genie your way out of your obvious inability to describe your precious ideology without making an appeal to an avocado by any other name."

-Very smart Internet person

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Postmortal_Pop 16 points 10 months ago

Truely I was a fool to challenge a redditor when pedantism is on the line.

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TheJesusaurus 8 points 10 months ago

I don't want to explain guac without avocados

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ultrahamster64 19 points 10 months ago

Please stop I'm gonna salivate to death

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Sharkticon 10 points 10 months ago

It's so weird to me when I hear people describe avocados as fruit. Because they are clearly. But it just feels wrong to me and I don't know why.

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Postmortal_Pop 6 points 10 months ago

If you're at all from the US it may be due to use to us teaching that sweet things are fruit and not sweet things are vegetables.

That 90's era food pyramid really fucked up a generation.

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RampantParanoia2365 4 points 10 months ago

Ok, so there's like 2...4...no more than like 10 or 12 exceptions to the rule.

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Sharkticon 3 points 10 months ago

No, see cuz you calling it a vegetable just sounds equally weird to me. They're both weird. I don't know why.

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ltxrtquq 4 points 10 months ago

Alright, so avacados are the globs of meat dangling from some trees that they use to reproduce.

Is that sounding more natural to you?

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untorquer 6 points 10 months ago

Nutty flavor, fatty texture. If someone called them a legume it'd still feel wrong, but less wrong.

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Sharkticon 3 points 10 months ago

Yes! This is it this is the one I'm most comfortable with so far.

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RampantParanoia2365 1 point 10 months ago

Do you suppose the fact that they're green and savory, instead of sweet has anything to do with it?

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Viking_Hippie 9 points 10 months ago

Ok, now do it without mentioning food, food preparation, or eating.

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Postmortal_Pop 13 points 10 months ago

The correct rebuttal to this is to drown them in guac.

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Viking_Hippie 10 points 10 months ago

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RampantParanoia2365 3 points 10 months ago

Green stuff people like to dip crunchy yellow triangles in.

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Viking_Hippie 2 points 10 months ago

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Beacon 8 points 10 months ago

It's not a culinary fruit, it's a culinary vegetable. There's a botanical classification system, and a different culinary classification system. When describing food it is incorrect to use the botanical classifier.

Other than that, good description

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Beacon 4 points 10 months ago

Anyone downvoting this wanna say why? Because I'm correct.

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softwarist 4 points 10 months ago

why are you booing me?

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Beacon 2 points 10 months ago

Hah exactly!

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funksoulkitchen 4 points 10 months ago

And it's green

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brsrklf 1 point 10 months ago

Thank you, Scotty.

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Kolanaki 27 points 10 months ago

Guacamole is a mash made of fruit and spices, often used as dip for corn chips.

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Cattail 12 points 10 months ago

pushes glasses Fruits like grapes?! Dint you know that mashed grapes make a jelly

Owned!

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Kolanaki 4 points 10 months ago

Add in pectin and guac can be jelly, too. ๐Ÿ˜Œ

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Cattail 2 points 10 months ago

Damn I meant jam. Put how guac jelly would spread

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Kolanaki 3 points 10 months ago

I have to imagine it spreads worse than plain guac. The pectin would make it thicker. I think... ๐Ÿค”

God damn it, now I need some pectin and a mason jar to do some science...

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DudeImMacGyver 20 points 10 months ago

It's a vegetable spread.

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optissima 9 points 10 months ago

What's it taste like ๐Ÿ˜

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PabloSexcrowbar 20 points 10 months ago

Vegetable

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SLVRDRGN 1 point 10 months ago

It is botanically a fruit.

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NotASharkInAManSuit 2 points 10 months ago

Botanically everything that comes off a plant that you can eat is a fruit, the distinction of fruits and vegetables is purely a culinary thing.

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RampantParanoia2365 1 point 10 months ago

Yeah...isn't that something? ๐Ÿค”

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Tikiporch 4 points 10 months ago

Primarily tastes of the ingredients you used to make it.

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WhiskyTangoFoxtrot 3 points 10 months ago

Similar to imitation guacamole. Not identical, but similar.

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DudeImMacGyver 1 point 10 months ago

Guacamole of course!

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a_wild_mimic_appears 1 point 10 months ago

For me mainly like greasy nothing - I've tried guacamole very often because I love Mexican food, but the consistency simply isn't for me. Same with hummus interestingly, so only sour cream for me

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brianary 7 points 10 months ago

Fruit, I think.

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DudeImMacGyver 3 points 10 months ago

Eh, tomato, avocado.

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RampantParanoia2365 1 point 10 months ago

Dude, where you getting your apples?

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Kolanaki 1 point 10 months ago

You're both right.

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Cattail 14 points 10 months ago

As a socialist, I get a "name a socialist country that...."

And I ask "define socialist country" and they lose this shit. Do they want to simply change what socialist country means as I drop answers or just gonna have some weird argument about my answers

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Flax_vert 10 points 10 months ago

I don't get it

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qarbone 54 points 10 months ago

It's mocking people that engage in bad-faith ideological debates.

Avocado is an essential ingredient in making guacamole, but, by "banning" its mention in the discussion and consequently stymying the opponent, the first figure is assuming and posturing as if they won a legitimate debate.

Which is so obviously false as to be humorous.

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Karjalan 13 points 10 months ago

I've had this exact scenario on reddit, many years ago. I can't remember the specifics but it was literally like this comic. "Without using the core part of this topic, you can't explain how this topic works"

IIRC it was climate change (back when that was the hot button political issue) and something like "oh yeah, well without using man made CO2 emissions, explain the rise in CO2 and temperature, you can't", where their point was that it was "volcanoes"

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Flax_vert 2 points 10 months ago

Never heard of anyone doing that ngl. Except possibly secularists with arguments about certain morality, eg, "without using the Bible, explain how homosexuality is immoral" although I think I've only come across that one twice

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Soggy 6 points 10 months ago

I feel like that's different, as the point is to make the moralist admit that they want Christian Religious Law.

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Flax_vert -6 points 10 months ago

I'm not talking about a debate over "should homosexuality/same-sex-marriage be illegal/banned", just morality in general. It's kind of hard to believe in and justify objective morality without some form of religion. From what I can tell, it's the Humanists who understand this

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ThatGuy46475 37 points 10 months ago

Without using plate tectonics, explain how fish fossils ended up on mountains. Thatโ€™s right, it must be the Noah flood.

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Flax_vert 3 points 10 months ago

Never heard that one, that's quite mental. One thing I heard from a young earth creationist was that "global warming isn't accurate because it's using an assumption that the earth is 6-10,000 years old".... Although in that case, wouldn't it be much more urgent?

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Jhex 3 points 10 months ago

Like people that try to nullify an argument against cars by saying "well you have a car so you are a hypocrite"... we may all be forced to own a car but that does not preclude anyone from understanding what's negative about cars or cities designed for driving

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BotsRuinedEverything 2 points 10 months ago

Seasoned drupe paste.

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hakunawazo 1 point 9 months ago

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DioramaOfShit -1 points 10 months ago

Dip?

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