Unbothered. In its lane. Flourishing.

9 months ago by The Picard Maneuver to c/whitepeopletwitter

Luminous5481 82 points 9 months ago
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ChicoSuave 19 points 9 months ago

Or the bot was actively excited that they are about to frustrate the fuck out of a meat bag.

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Luminous5481 5 points 9 months ago
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s 23 points 9 months ago

What is the difference between an AI chatbot and a non-AI chatbot in this context?

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SpicyTaint 47 points 9 months ago
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s 14 points 9 months ago

So without hardcoded I/O choice options à la 20 Questions, how is the latter supposed to function?

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NeatNit 26 points 9 months ago path: 0 21327890 21328198 21328356 21328485, hotness: undefined, score: 26, children: 7
s 6 points 9 months ago

I’m not super familiar with ELIZA but this section of the text

ELIZA starts its process of responding to an input by a user by first examining the text input for a "keyword". A "keyword" is a word designated as important by the acting ELIZA script,…”

makes it sound like an LLM with only a small pool of language data? An LM, if you will.

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A_norny_mousse 1 point 9 months ago

I think somebody recently named their AI (chatbot?) project Eliza, which is a perfect Torment Nexus moment.

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FiniteBanjo 2 points 9 months ago

It never lies to you, at least. Unless you format your questions with lots of double negatives

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titanicx 5 points 9 months ago

Neither one of which can actually answer questions or provide any real help.

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TheTechnician27 8 points 9 months ago

In this case, a simple chatbot like she interacted with falls under AI. AI companies have marketed AI as synonymous with genAI and especially transformer models like GPTs. However, AI as a field is split into two types: machine learning and non-machine-learning (traditional algorithms).

Where the latter starts gets kind of fuzzy, but think algorithms with hard-coded rules like traditional chess engines, video game NPCs, and simple rules-based chatbots. There's no training data; a human is sitting down and manually programming the AI's response to every input.

By an AI chatbot, she'd be referring to something like a large language model (LLM) – usually a GPT. That's specifically a generative pretrained transformer – a type of transformer which is a deep learning model which is a subset of machine learning which is a type of AI (you don't really need to know exactly what that means right now). By not needing hard-coded rules and instead being a highly parallelized and massive model trained on a gargantuan corpus of text data, it'll be vastly better at its job of mimicking human behavior than a simple chatbot in 99.9% of cases.

TL;DR: What she's seeing here technically is AI, just a very primitive form of an entirely different type that's apparently super shitty at its job.

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SpookyBogMonster 21 points 9 months ago

Is CleverBot still around, and as stupid as always?

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fossilesque 14 points 9 months ago
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Whats_your_reasoning 6 points 9 months ago

Oh, SmarterChild. Now that brings me back. I remember there being a slew of chatbots that followed it. I didn't know what Radiohead was at the time, I learned about the band from them, and thought it odd they had their own chatbot.

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bus_factor 10 points 9 months ago

Funny enough, Slackbot (or at least the current incarnation of it) is definitely based on an LLM. Although I suspect this screenshot is older, because when the current Slackbot gives bad responses it does so a lot more verbosely.

I've found it to usually work better than most AI, actually, at least if you ask it stuff like "which slack threads do I need to follow up on?" or other stuff it can work out based on your slack activity.

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FiniteBanjo 8 points 9 months ago

Does this imply an AI-chatbot would perform better? Because I reject that notion.

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Saapas 2 points 9 months ago

I mean probbaly. Most non-AI bots would work better, even

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Valmond 6 points 9 months ago

Best bot.

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MountingSuspicion 6 points 9 months ago

Presumably she works in tech, but it's very strange to see that kind of interaction. I don't know why anyone would type in all caps or use multiple question marks regardless of if they're talking to AI, a simple bot, or a real person. Maybe a "help" or "options" but I can't imagine thinking an all caps hello would help in this situation.

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Ledivin 16 points 9 months ago

Remember that half of tech is in sales/management/etc. and half of them are complete idiots

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titanicx -2 points 9 months ago

And many of us get absolutely pissed off when we have to talk to an idiotic but they can't answer a simple question. Hell I get pissed off when I have to talk to somebody in Indonesia the Philippines or India that can't answer a simple question.

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xkbx 15 points 9 months ago

That’s AlbertaTech. She does comedy skits on youtube/tiktok related to the tech world. She’s really bright and funny, I would assume she’s doing that for the bit.

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Dojan 5 points 9 months ago

You want me to put AI in the sparkling water?

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BeardedGingerWonder 3 points 9 months ago

Be quiet Gerard

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Dojan 3 points 9 months ago

Gerard doesn’t work here.

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brotato 3 points 9 months ago

Slack does have AI features now, mostly focused around summarization. I found the features pretty useless and turned them off (as much as they allow you to, at least). It’s not very often that I don’t care to know the whole context of messages I receive at work. And I do have channels that I usually just skim or ignore that the summaries weren’t super helpful for. It strips out way too much of the conversation.

Similarly, I really dislike the Apple Intelligence summarization features. It drove me to finally turn off Apple Intelligence on all my devices. Do people find summarization useful? Genuinely curious for use cases.

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adaveinthelife 2 points 9 months ago

HELLO?

I would ignore this poor slack (and general communication) etiquette myself.

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TheLeadenSea 1 point 9 months ago

All chatbots are AI, from ELIZA to GPT4. Did you mean LLM-based, maybe?

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NeatNit 4 points 9 months ago

Your pedantry is acknowledged and appreciated, but everyone knows exactly what they meant including you. Languages evolve and words' meanings change and evolve over time.

Merriam-Webster: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ai

Quote, some emphasis mine:

artificial intelligence

[...]

specifically : a program or set of programs developed using tools (such as machine learning and neural networks) and used to generate content, analyze complex patterns (as in speech or digital images), or automate complex tasks

see also generative AI

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null 1 point 9 months ago

You really can't tell?

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Eiri 0 points 9 months ago

Technically you can call a chain of three if/else conditions an AI but come on, you KNOW that's not what we mean.

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halvar 0 points 9 months ago

It would be worse if it was an AI, then it would just straight up mislead you

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