Slay Girl

9 months ago by fossilesque to c/science_memes

Tuuktuuk 87 points 9 months ago

I think I saw her once, actually! A crow was harassing one of the small ones – it looked like it was trying to catch it to eat, probably?

A seagull saw what's going on and went full-blown "I'm a parent as well, you absolute damn fucker!", and chased the crow away. And really not just a few tens of metres away or so, but really chased them away from the whole general area where the mom with really cool hair was swimming with her family!

When the seagull came back, I gave it something nice to eat, because, damn, flying rat or not, that was a cool move! And I happened to have something seagull compatible, not just some bread that will do more harm than good.

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JasonDJ 35 points 9 months ago

What was it? A plastic 6-pack ring?

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MeatPilot 39 points 9 months ago

Hopefully a good time instead. Seagulls love MDMA.

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LOLseas 1 point 9 months ago

We uh... NEED you, in dire way, to elaborate on this. Right now.

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Tuuktuuk 8 points 9 months ago

Something even more seagull-compatible than that. I don't remember what food I happened to have with me, because this happened some, 5-ish years ago? (It also was not a surgical mask, BTW!)

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ChickenLadyLovesLife 20 points 9 months ago

Crows are complex, though. The ones that live around my house can often be found ganging up and chasing away the red-tailed hawks that like to snack on the squirrels. The squirrels repay the favor by chasing off the crows who come to eat the peanuts I leave out for them (and eating the peanuts themselves). One time the crows flew around above me making a godawful racket until I went to the back yard and freed a baby raccoon that had accidentally gone into the box trap I leave out for groundhogs; they immediately flew off as soon as I let the little guy out.

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Tuuktuuk 9 points 9 months ago

Crows are generally awesome! I've only ever met one that I really didn't like. Want to read a story featuring that one? 🙃

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acockworkorange 7 points 9 months ago

Fuck yeah, I do!

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Tuuktuuk 5 points 9 months ago

Sorry for getting your hopes up. It's there a couple comments up from this one :)

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unemployedclaquer 17 points 9 months ago

You need to do a children's book inspired by those three paragraphs

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QuinnyCoded 41 points 9 months ago

i once saw some ducks with a bunch of midsized babies and some more tiny babies 💖☺️

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echodot 50 points 9 months ago

Mallard ducks in particular seem to take the view that as long as someone's looking after the ducklings, it doesn't really matter whose is whose.

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prole 17 points 9 months ago

Commie birds

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FlyingCircus -6 points 9 months ago

Someone on Lemmy is going to suggest exterminating the tankie ducks now.

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Tollana1234567 10 points 9 months ago

magenser.

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thru_dangers_untold 6 points 9 months ago

More-ganser

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scratchee -34 points 9 months ago

In cartoon ducks: overly simplistic but cute, naive, and innocent

In humans: pronatalism. weird disgusting pseudo colonial bullshit that’s the dark mirror to “just” wanting kids.

Edit: sorry for throwing cynicism into a cute comic’s comment section. Promise I’m fine 😅

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Ilovethebomb 63 points 9 months ago

I think you need to go outside and look at some wildlife or something.

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JetpackJackson 44 points 9 months ago

But not ducks, clearly

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ameancow 31 points 9 months ago
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lessthanluigi 15 points 9 months ago

Anti-natalism is such a wild and depressing position to have. It's not just not wanting kids personally, or even just not wanting to be around kids, but that giving birth is immoral and horrendous.

I don't really plan to have kids myself, but I have a nephew and he is so amazing and my sister is doing an amazing job raising him.

I've heard (well, read) from one anti-natalist that thinking children are wonderful to be around is akin to cult language. As if anti-natalists don't sound like they are in a cult themself.

Thank you for coming to my TedTalk

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DeathByBigSad 6 points 9 months ago

Militant Anti-natalists are just as cringe as those Pro-natalists who pressure you to have children

Just leave people alone for their personal decisions ffs

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ameancow 4 points 9 months ago
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wolframhydroxide 5 points 9 months ago

As someone who understands, if not necessarily openly espouses, anti-natalist ideology, I can give a bit of elucidation from my perspective of the philosophy of utilitarianism, which I am happy to debate. It would be nice to be proven wrong here.

It comes down, in my opinion and understanding, to the following argument:

  1. an entity is inherently unable to consent to its own creation. [A postulate]

  2. suffering has a net-negative effect on the (perceived or actual) value of existence [precept of utilitarianism]

  3. suffering knowingly enacted against any entity which cannot give informed consent is eqquivalent to the suffering of an entity which is actively not consenting [by which argument paedophilia is a crime]

  4. The potential suffering inherent in life is foreseeable, as is the potential of a human life to harm the lives of others. [The basis of the concept of negligence]

  5. An entity that is not created does not harm or cause others to suffer, nor does it experience harm or suffering [postulate]

From propositions 1 through 5:

  1. You are personally, morally responsible for the life which you create, both its actions and its experiences, as all of its experiences and actions are exclusively contingent on the act of its creation. It is from this moral duty that parental responsibility derives.

  2. there is a foreseeable possibility that the entity being created could endure enough suffering (or be the cause of same) to make the value of their life net-negative

From propositions 5 and 6, and the various observations one might make of the world (from climate change, to the renewed rise of fascism and the far-right, and a myriad of other "natural shocks which flesh is heir to"), they suggest:

  1. On cost-benefit analysis, the expected value of a new life which I might create is net-negative.

From which:

  1. it would be irresponsible (read: negligent) to procreate.

That is the basis. If you can prove each of those propositions, then from a utilitarian perspective, I think anti-natalism follows. I am personally convinced up to proposition 6, and I am personally waiting until I no longer feel that 7 has a chance of being valid before I have children. There are plenty of ways you can argue against the propositions, but as they stand, there is no indication of a moral duty to end already-extant life or to engage in mass-sterilisation of animals. There are certainly people who try to come at it from a nihilistic perspective, and it's MUCH easier to argue pretty much anything from nihilism than from utilitarianism, but I, being primarily utilitarian, hold with the above.

I also think that the person saying "anti-natalists think children are awful to be around" is presenting a ridiculous strawman. I'm a public school teacher, and I love being around kids. The wonder with which they view the cosmos is forever inspiring to me, but many of my students have experienced truly awful things. I believe my moral duty involves doing everything I can to minimize the suffering of entities that exist. I think that, once a child has been created, you now have a moral duty to make that child's life as free from suffering and as fulfilling and rich as possible (without imposing suffering on others, of course)

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MousePotatoDoesStuff 20 points 9 months ago

But if she found more baby rather than "make", doesn't that imply adoption?

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scratchee 2 points 9 months ago

True. Lots of pronatalists tend towards eugenics, so doubt they’re huge fans of adoptions.

OTOH, even nurture-over-nature pronatalists would be problematic. “I’m better than everyone else so I should have an outsize impact on the next generation by adopting as many children as possible” is only slightly better than the eugenic variant.

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psud 1 point 8 months ago

I think you are mistaken. People who want children often want their own children; people who want a lot of children want children theirs or others

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vaultdweller013 10 points 9 months ago

I can't tell if you hate ducks or are simply a pro-natalist. Regardless go watch a movie or play a game or something, may I suggest Red Dead Redemption? It's currently on sale on steam.

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BlackDragon 9 points 9 months ago

I can’t tell if you hate ducks or are simply a pro-natalist

That's an impressively incorrect reading of the comment.

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vaultdweller013 3 points 9 months ago

Can't see any other point they were making then. Unless they are just trying to call hypocrisy towards folks thinking animals having lots of babies is cute while humans doing the same is bad. Because if that is the point that's missing so much fucken context that if it was a physical object it'd be a fucken mountain range, mostly because most animal babies die pretty fucken often. From experience chicks alone have like a 60 percent mortality rating if humans aren't directly involved in taking care of them, roosters apparently love to eat chicks.

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BlackDragon 8 points 9 months ago

They're saying that "more babies = more success" is a funny and cute idea when expressed by a cartoon duck, but is extremely harmful when expressed by humans in the real world. I honestly can't imagine how you reached your interpretation of the comment because it seems to have very little in common with anything they said.

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sem 8 points 9 months ago

Maybe I'm misunderstanding, because it looks like the duck had 1 baby, then adopted 20 others.

Obviously ducks are cuter than humans.

Not sure why you think someone hates ducks.

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nomy 9 points 9 months ago

Just hopping in to say that the RDR franchise is great and worth the money.

I've spent so many hours just riding around hunting or collecting herbs. One of the few games you can genuinely turn off your brain and immerse yourself in the world.

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vaultdweller013 4 points 9 months ago

Also undead nightmare is unironically one of the more unique takes on zombies. Not necessarily because they do anything particularly interesting with the zombies themselves but moreso because the closest thing to zombie Western I know of is a bug in the PS3 version of Fallout: New Vegas where an infinitely spawn of ghouls can occur at the test site. Never been able to replicate it on PC and I don't know if it was specific to me or not.

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acockworkorange 2 points 9 months ago

No one else said, and it seems like you're catching on, but it needs saying out loud: today, you suck.

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