France will replace Microsoft Teams, Google Meet, Zoom, Webex and others with its own sovereign video conferencing application "Visio" for public officials

9 months ago by daisykutter to c/europe

stoy 93 points 9 months ago

Gotta admire France for not only calling for domestic alternatives, but for consistently funding and implementing domestic alternatives.

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jenesaisquoi 16 points 9 months ago

They've been doing that in many sectors for a while. It's almost a tradition of theirs. For example, they're the only country despite the USA and China capable of completely domestically manufacturing a fighter jet.

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stoy 12 points 9 months ago

As a Swede, I sure know that, we like to yell about building our own fighter jet, but we are completely dependent on the US for mainly the engine, but several other components.

I hope we can collaborate with France or the UK for another engine with less restrictions.

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jenesaisquoi 2 points 9 months ago

Haha, collaborating with France on defence? Forget it.

You can ask them whether they'd like to take your money and allowing you to follow their orders, and they might agree to that. Might. If you ask in perfect French.

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DreasNil 4 points 9 months ago

It's time for unity between Europeans, not mockery.

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ParadeDuGrotesque 2 points 9 months ago

Rolls Royce has produced new engines for the Gripen

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stoy 2 points 9 months ago

Have they been certified? I thought they were just testing them

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Vinstaal0 34 points 9 months ago

Replace a Microsoft product by a domestic product with the same name as another Microsoft product. It's kinda funny not gonna lie.

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axh 12 points 9 months ago

The headline "France replaces MS Teams with Visio" would be really confusing (but funny).

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MartianSands 1 point 9 months ago

I gather that it seems more reasonable in french

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jenesaisquoi 8 points 9 months ago

It's really called Visio, as an abbreviation of the French word visioconférence.

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gaymer 20 points 9 months ago
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BCsven 17 points 9 months ago

Nice

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errer 10 points 9 months ago

and Paris too

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BCsven 2 points 9 months ago

Lol

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Ek-Hou-Van-Braai 16 points 9 months ago

Good on them, but I Wonder why they can't just build on top of something open source like Nextcloud.

It already has the majority of the Office-365 suite

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Glitterkoe 6 points 9 months ago

I'd sooner see them integrate with https://cryptpad.fr/ which is another (jointly) French funded project to provide a secure collaborative office environment. I think this French Visio mostly targets (video) conferencing rather than the entire office suite.

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ivn 5 points 9 months ago path: 0 21788752 21789787 21789859, hotness: undefined, score: 5, children: 1
Glitterkoe 1 point 9 months ago

Ah, that sits at an interesting spot between collaborative Obsidian and classic Word. I only just noticed their other existing products but knew of CryptPad from earlier posts. I think it's great to see these alternatives pop up so we don't funnel ourselves into the next monopoly.

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ivn 5 points 9 months ago path: 0 21788752 21789785, hotness: undefined, score: 5, children: 0
Zwuzelmaus 12 points 9 months ago

In such moments I wish our government had balls, too.

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HaraldvonBlauzahn 10 points 9 months ago

I am always wondering why there is no standard for video conferencing?

We can be glad that the telephone was not invented in our times...

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Pip 1 point 9 months ago

You are so right.

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notsosure 9 points 9 months ago

The same movement is visible in the Netherlands. In Germany, a couple of states are going down this road, but they’re not doing enough. Which is weird, because the Germans are very concerned about data protection, yet they do not mind if their medical data is in some US cloud…

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pulsewidth 9 points 9 months ago

The ongoing shitfuckery by the US in forcing their corporations to hand over sovereign-nation data hosted in other nations datacenters (CLOUD Act), amongst many of their present stupidities, is fucking amazing for IT sovereignty and open source.

I couldn't have convinced the organizations and businesses I worked with in the past to move to more than a few niche open source products for tiny userbases, which I made sure they donated to. To suggest moving to a solution outside of the Garner Magic Quadrant for that particular business need / role for anything larger than dozen users was just "objectively illogical", I couldn't have put forth a winning business case proposal in 100 years.

But now they're doing it out of spite to the US government and finally seeing the light.

There's a lot of bad things going on in the world, but this.. this is great.

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Greg 7 points 9 months ago

Great move, awesome!!!! What about replacing copilot with mistral?

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CosmoNova 2 points 9 months ago

What critical features do those LLMs have that need to be replaced?

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msage 2 points 9 months ago

Ingesting data from people inside the government.

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Greg 1 point 9 months ago

MS Copilot is a piece of trash no matter the angle you look at it.

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CosmoNova 2 points 9 months ago

Exactly my thoughts. It doesn‘t need replacement it just needs to be dropped.

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zoontechnicon 7 points 9 months ago

Is it open source?

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ParadeDuGrotesque 2 points 9 months ago

Yes

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FreddiesLantern 5 points 9 months ago

Wholesome.

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quoll 5 points 9 months ago

how does that work with IT departments? ours dont know and have no interest in knowing about anything but microsoft ecosystem. attitude is pretty endemic in aussie.

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qyron 9 points 9 months ago

If it is to be implemented in the french public system, it will be enforced by strict orders. IT disliking it will be of no concern.

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fierysparrow89 5 points 9 months ago

I expect pandemic-levels of stubbornness, pettiness and relentless bitching.

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ivn 2 points 9 months ago

But meanwhile the Education and Health public sector made big contracts with Microsoft.

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Multiplexer 1 point 9 months ago

I am pretty sure that Microsoft won't let them use the name of one of their products for this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Visio

I just hope the rest of the project is more well-grounded than the name selection seems to have been...

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whyNotSquirrel 7 points 9 months ago

In french this kind of applications are used for "Visioconférence" so I doubt they could do anything about this

https://www.linguee.fr/...

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Multiplexer 5 points 9 months ago

In this case it might be the biggest "Fuck You" towards Microsoft that they could think of - and I am totally into that! :-)

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vdbm 3 points 9 months ago

I agree. But it is a draft name. I am sure they will come up with something better.

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DreasNil 1 point 9 months ago

Amazing first steps! Finally Europe is waking up.

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laz 1 point 9 months ago
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brachiosaurus 1 point 9 months ago

We are on lemmy, a decentralized and open source platform and people are cheering at the government for making its own sovereign video app for public officials...

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