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hogunner 122 points 3 years ago

Nice to get some high level confirmation but this doesn’t come as a surprise to anyone who’s been paying close attention to Ghouliani for the last 10-20 years. Dude has always been corrupt and doing the bidding of one mobster or another.

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chaogomu 61 points 3 years ago

It was not one mobster or another. He made his name prosecuting the Italian mob so that the Russians could move into NYC.

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tsonfeir 95 points 3 years ago

Lol. The entire Republican Party is on the Russian payroll, even if they don’t know it.

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Slwh47696 61 points 3 years ago

I would be much more surprised if Trump and Co. weren't all Russian assets

Pretty wild how all these Republicans hated Russia more than anything else up until the last few years, and now they suddenly love Russia

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Very_Bad_Janet 43 points 3 years ago path: 0 3031958 3033108 3033776, hotness: undefined, score: 43, children: 5
Dkarma 22 points 3 years ago

Member when don Jr just said we get all the money we need from Russia?

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neanderthal 4 points 3 years ago

I love the name! I've seen a lot of Good Place references here on Lemmy. Personally, Chidi is my favorite.

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Very_Bad_Janet 2 points 3 years ago

What up, forknut!

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Texas_Hangover -16 points 3 years ago

Ahh yes. The notoriously right-wing mass media.

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catfish 11 points 3 years ago

Faux News? That checks out

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grue 12 points 3 years ago

Pretty wild how all these Republicans hated Russia more than anything else up until the last few years, and now they suddenly love Russia

They hated specifically the Soviet Union, and did so because it was communist. Now that it's gone and Russia is a kleptocratic oligarchy instead, they love it. Republicans admire Russia because it is everything they want the US to be.

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tsonfeir 3 points 3 years ago

Well then I guess they want their government to force them to die in battle. I’m okay with that.

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grue 6 points 3 years ago

If anything, they want their government to force us to die in battle for them.

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Treczoks 8 points 3 years ago

I would be much more surprised if Trump and Co. weren’t all Russian assets

But I doubt Trump gets paid by Putler. It is probalbly more like the Russians have some nice and juicy bits on Trump somewhere in a safe place. Maybe a tape or two, or some documents that Trump really does not want the world to know about.

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grabyourmotherskeys 11 points 3 years ago path: 0 3031958 3033108 3033251 3034182, hotness: undefined, score: 11, children: 1
7112 2 points 3 years ago

Man... the way Paul Ryan was walking in that... washington is so shady

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bobzilla 6 points 3 years ago

some documents that Trump really does not want the world to know about.

Like his actual height and weight?

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tsonfeir 2 points 3 years ago

We all know he fucked kids in a Russian hotel and got recorded, right? That’s the only thing he can’t live down.

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Treczoks 1 point 3 years ago

My, one would really need to be terminally dense to do that. But indeed, we are speaking of Trump here, and it would be 100% down his alley.

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tsonfeir 8 points 3 years ago

Well, when it comes to republicans, the thing they hate most is usually who they are: Russians, gays, child molesters. You get the point.

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phoenixz 4 points 3 years ago

What they hate most is people paying attention to their crimes so they'll just spun up the next drama... Hunter Biden! Hillary! Some embassy somewhere! Pizza gate! Look there, look there! Do t look at what I'm doing, don't look at me passing bills that will make me slightly richer and fuck you over good!

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tsonfeir 1 point 3 years ago

“Slightly” richer? ;)

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fubo 2 points 3 years ago

Also medical frauds, tax cheats, benefits cheats, drug abusers, ...

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Boddhisatva 6 points 3 years ago
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Slwh47696 7 points 3 years ago

There was also that story a few years back how a bunch of Republicans were in Moscow for the 4th of July, pretty normal American behaviour, right?

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EmpathicVagrant 1 point 3 years ago

Yet when I mention this magically no one remembers because it wasn’t run on the news for days like obama’s tan suit.

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CharlesDarwin 1 point 3 years ago

And the base: reprogrammable meatbags. Even the ones that lived through the Cold War/Red Scare nonsense now embrace the likes of Putin trying to reify the USSR.

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CharlesDarwin 1 point 3 years ago

It's amusing how donnie's offspring blurted out the truth about Russia and donnie's family ages ago, Paul Ryan and McCarthy are caught on tape making a "joke" about Russia, and people are still calling their ties to Russia a "hoax".

https://www.politicususa.com/...

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EmpathicVagrant 2 points 3 years ago

“He swore them to secrecy, like you would do if you’re joking”

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CharlesDarwin 1 point 3 years ago

I mean, the Russian thing is so obviously a hoax, as the "centrists", the suspect "leftists" and of course the radicalized right wing and the bothsiderist media keep on saying to anyone that will listen...

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Syldon 4 points 3 years ago

There is a lot of cooperation between the UK's Tory party and the Republicans through a group called the national conservative group. There is also a lot of similarities with the stunts being pulled by the Republicans and the Tories with gerrymandering and general corruption of the process in government.

There has been some very credible links with the Tory party and Russian influence. We have a Russian in the Lords. Johnson performed some actions that were incredibly poorly judged. The Tories fought tooth and nail to stop sanctions being applied to certain Russian oligarchs that had money in the UK. Johnson's government stopped the electoral commission from investigating Russian influence with the Brexit referendum. He then went further by pulling the electoral commission directly under government control.

There is now a bad smell about both the Republicans and our Conservatives when it comes to Russian influence. Don't let Trump slide, make him pay for what he has done, and if that proves to have Russian influence then take everything from him. His kids should not benefit from this.

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Boddhisatva 2 points 3 years ago
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tsonfeir 4 points 3 years ago

Oh yeah they do. I’m sure it’s all child molestation. Like, Trump would fully admit to raping an adult and his base would be like “yeah grab it,” but no one can get away with raping a kid.

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SilverFlame 1 point 3 years ago

I remember reading court records that detailed settlements he paid out for rape. Some of those little boys were as young as 8 if I recall. I tried looking for the records a few weeks ago and couldn't find them.

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tsonfeir 2 points 3 years ago

I mean, he can’t settle his way out of a criminal charge, and if criminal charges weren’t filed it could have been a shakedown.

I’m not saying he didn’t do it—but it gets sketchy when there isn’t a criminal charge for something to a kid.

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JustZ 0 points 3 years ago

Yeah. They go through so much effort to compromise an asset, they can't let that asset go broke.

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NegativeLookBehind 87 points 3 years ago

Trump and Giuliani are the high watermark tests. If they don’t spend the rest of their lives in prison cells for committing treason at the highest levels, that’s a clear cut signal that certain people can get away with anything, and that American justice has failed.

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YurkshireLad 13 points 3 years ago

“certain rich people” or just “rich people”?

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PoopingCough 10 points 3 years ago

There is one thing rich people never get away with, and that's stealing from other rich people.

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nilloc 2 points 3 years ago

Are we sure about this. We have a whole investment industry set up to steal from everybody.

As long as the rich people you’re Sterling from aren’t more rich than you, you’ll be fine.

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Buffalox -36 points 3 years ago

Sorry but user blocked due to animated avatar.

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kmkz_ninja 16 points 3 years ago

Is this reddit? People have avatars?

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NegativeLookBehind 11 points 3 years ago

K bye

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morphballganon 10 points 3 years ago

... you guys get avatars?

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SmashingSquid 9 points 3 years ago path: 0 3027272 3029678 3031046, hotness: undefined, score: 9, children: 0
Mdotaut801 59 points 3 years ago
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catfish 13 points 3 years ago

"tHe bIdEn cRiMe fAmIlY"

lol it's all projection with this mofos

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arin 5 points 3 years ago

Is he a politician?

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key95 17 points 3 years ago

Worse, he was the owner of a laptop.

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postmateDumbass 7 points 3 years ago

That bastard!

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Mdotaut801 8 points 3 years ago
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andrew 4 points 3 years ago

I'm at least partly convinced they convince themselves those things are true, and that in order to correct the wrong they are then justified in doing just as bad of things, or even worse.

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Hoomod 2 points 3 years ago

They accuse others of what they're doing so when they get caught they can shrug and go "everyone does it, it isn't that bad" and their fan base then agrees with them

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WallsToTheBalls 2 points 3 years ago

That’s exactly what happens

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theodewere 58 points 3 years ago

before Rudi was mayor, he was helping clean up the Italian mafia in NYC.. the Russian mafia filled a bunch of the vacuum left behind, and Rudi and the Russians have been friends ever since for some reason..

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n0m4n 20 points 3 years ago

It had been reported that the Russian mafia were feeding information to Giuliani on the Italian mob. It was how Guiliani was able to make his cases, build his reputation to become "America's mayor", AND also compromised him to become a Russian asset. The story was reported a long while ago, and I don't remember which journalist(s) broke the story or who they wrote for, nor their reliability, anymore, but recall them as very highly rated as accurate in their facts.

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RunningInRVA 9 points 3 years ago

Appreciate that but gonna need some facts to support that one. If nobody is reporting it (other than you) then it is hard to believe, as much as I would like to.

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theodewere 2 points 3 years ago

it is hard to believe

it's anything but.. in fact it's really easy to believe about that slimeball piece of shit.. when you think about it..

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googlrr 8 points 3 years ago

We still gotta see receipts. If it was reported on it will be on the internet. Rudy is a shit bag but we don't gotta make up stuff if there's no proof there's plenty there already for us to go on

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n0m4n 1 point 3 years ago

I tried to find my reading, but the post was too long ago for my searches to pull it up. Some supporting facts did turn up. ^1^ The Russian mob was warring with the Italian mob over turf at the time. ^2^ No Russians were indicted in NY at the time, though, by my search of records. ^3^ The KGB were looking for assets, and Giuliani would be a plum target. ^4^ The KGB's MO is to find kompromat and keeps its victims ensnared, once they get compromising info. (Spy craft that all sides exploit.) ^5^ Giuliani needed money, even then, for his lawyer(s) and his first divorce settlement. These do not prove anything, but I find nothing that doesn't raise more suspicions, either.

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Very_Bad_Janet 12 points 3 years ago

Wow. He was considered courageous for this at the time. TIL.

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detalferous 11 points 3 years ago

I suspect this is exactly what's going on.

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theodewere 7 points 3 years ago

you know what they used to say in those days? they said "follow da money".. lol

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Techmaster 3 points 3 years ago

before Rudi was mayor

When he was just a Huxtable

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Rapidcreek 55 points 3 years ago

Wow. Compromising giuliani must have been hard. I mean you need a bottle of vodka and a girl. Where are you going to find that?

Borat compromised him FFS

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Got_Bent 11 points 3 years ago

Well Borat was with Scotch, so it is a little more expensive than what you describe.

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Techmaster 46 points 3 years ago

I can't wait to find out that Trump and all his co-conspirators were all involved in the Russian invasion of Ukraine. I just have this feeling that they have been involved in planning the whole thing all along, and the plan was for Trump to win a second term so he could allow it to happen or even deploy our military to help Russia. He was literally impeached for extorting Zelenakyy and refusing to send him military aid.

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cabron_offsets 37 points 3 years ago
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nkat2112 33 points 3 years ago

Now, for some quotes not included in the post above:

Ukraine has sanctioned Fuks, and it is reportedly investigating him for fraud and tax evasion. Fuks now lives in London, according to recent media reports.

Nice!

In his statement, Buma says that he developed suspicions that Giuliani, through his relationship with Fuks, was “compromised by the RIS,” meaning the Russian Intelligence Services. That is a striking claim—an allegation that Russian spies may have obtained influence over a top adviser to the US president.

But I guess we all suspected as much. It's still shocking to see it.

Buma reveals in his statement that he also probed whether Russian operatives or assets were involved in a 2020 Giuliani effort to make a film about Hunter Biden’s business activities in Ukraine and elsewhere.

Oh, no. Let's find out how that went, shall we?

The anti-Biden film was to include commentary from Konstantin Kulyk, a former Ukrainian prosecutor who Treasury sanctioned in 2021 for working with Derkach to spread “fraudulent and unsubstantiated allegations” about Biden. That is, this project was to feature information from sources who the US government later deemed were connected to a disinformation campaign linked to Russian intelligence.

D'oh!

Giuliani played a key role in trying to line up investors for the movie.

Hehe

The investors Giuliani did help find were two brothers, David and Kable Munger, who own a large blueberry producing company in California and have donated generously to GOP candidates.

Ok, so they got funding.

The movie never came close to being made, and people involved in the endeavor told Mother Jones the project was disorganized and incompetently managed.

I can laugh my rear off, but really, I shouldn't be surprised. What a clown show - MAGAs shivving MAGAs:

The Mungers recently sued two GOP activists involved in producing the film, Tim Yale and George Dickson, along with a company they formed. Giuliani was not named as a defendant in the suit.

The Mungers say that Giuliani helped persuade them to invest $1 million by saying that they would receive a share of the film’s profits. The brothers also claim that Yale and Dickson told them the movie would be “more profitable than Michael Moore’s Fahrenheit 9/11.”

Oh, really? They were going to out-do Mr. Moore?

Giuliani, Dickson, and Yale also said, according to the Mungers’ lawsuit, that they possessed “smoking guns” revealing Joe Biden was corrupt.

Smoking guns, folks, smoking guns!

Giuliani and his colleagues possessed no such material. The Mungers allege that Dickson and Yale stole their investment.

Ruh-oh! There was no smoking gun - not even one.

Giuliani, according to the lawsuit, was paid $300,000 for his participation in the film project. A lawyer and a spokesperson for Giuliani did not respond to requests for comment.

Of course not.

The icing on the cake for me, if I may say, is the following paragraph:

Buma’s revelations may only be the start. A source familiar with his work tells Mother Jones that other potential FBI whistleblowers who participated in the investigation involving Giuliani have consulted the same lawyer as Buma and might meet with congressional investigators in coming weeks. That attorney, Scott Horton, declined to comment.

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givesomefucks -20 points 3 years ago

Why would someone read all of that instead of just the article?

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theodewere 15 points 3 years ago

why the fuck would somebody bother to make that comment

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PinkPanther -3 points 3 years ago

Because they're better than you. Duh

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YeetPics 1 point 3 years ago

Clearly not better than them at reading..

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FoundTheVegan 30 points 3 years ago

In a headline that isn't surprising, I find the most suprsing-thats-not-suprising thing is...

paid locals to spray-paint swastikas around Kharkiv in the weeks before Russia’s invasion. Buma says Fuks did so to bolster Vladmir Putin’s claim that the invasion aimed to achieve the “de-Nazification of Ukraine.”

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CharlesDarwin 22 points 3 years ago

Remember when little donnie, the lying liars networks, the Republicans, the "centrists", a whole lot of the "liberal media" (lol) and even some supposed leftists were gaslighting and proclaiming that the Russia thing was a "hoax"?

How long will they keep that up, by the way?

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CryptoRoberto 11 points 3 years ago

There was so much evidence. I really didn't get the amount of denial. Trumps been linked to Russia for decades in his business dealings.

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spaghettiwestern 7 points 3 years ago

Why would they stop? Just last week a user here who has his own sub (filled with Russian propaganda videos) commented on the "Russia hoax." Of course this idiot knows nothing and doesn't care about the reality of it, just like all of his room temperature IQ friends.

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TechyDad 3 points 3 years ago

They call it a hoax because, like any conspiracy theorist, they deem that any evidence against their theory is faked or part of the conspiracy. If the conspiracy is "we never landed on the moon," then any evidence showing that we did was "planted by NASA to fool the gullible."

In the case of Trump's Russia connections, the conspiracy theorists (who claim that it's all a hoax), simply label any evidence as "part of the Deep State hoax." Once that evidence is explained away like so, they can continue to believe that there's no evidence and it's all a hoax.

At this point, Trump could appear on TV with Putin himself and admit to working with Russia to undermine the US and a significant number of right wingers would declare that video faked. Another portion would declare it true, but somehow come to the conclusion that this is actually helping America and that Trump is really playing 12D chess to outmaneuver Putin.

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mriguy 6 points 3 years ago

How long will they keep that up, by the way?

For fucking ever. They never retreat and never apologize.

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CharlesDarwin 1 point 3 years ago

Oppo research is standard operation procedure, so not sure how that is relevant. Also, what part was disproved?

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Chocrates 1 point 3 years ago

I thought most of the Steele Dossier was inaccurate in the fullness of time? No issue with oppo research that is just part of politics

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Sanctus 18 points 3 years ago

Is this suprising to anyone? Its clear as day a lot of the GOP is compromised by Russian interests.

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LEDZeppelin 16 points 3 years ago

Rudy Colludy

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Grant_M 16 points 3 years ago

Back in the 80s. Rudy cleared out the American mob to make way for his Russian mob associates.

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LiquidMastering 14 points 3 years ago

What city in a foreign country would hire Ghouliani to provide ideas for “updating security”? That seems like the dumbest excuse for a payoff ever.

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PeleSpirit 11 points 3 years ago
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theodewere 3 points 3 years ago

helping legitimize efforts to corrupt Ukrainians in government i guess

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carl_dungeon 14 points 3 years ago

I’m so shocked because most republicans are so law abiding and definitely not involved with like 50 felonies!

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lagomorphlecture 13 points 3 years ago

Literally nobody is surprised about this after the Trump presidency. And people who know a little more seem to think he cleaned out the Italian mob only to hand NYC over to the Russian Mafia. Hmmm.

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Fhek 11 points 3 years ago

Giuliani is a Russian stooge. What a surprise.

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Hazdaz 11 points 3 years ago

America's mayor and Russia's puppet.

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JustZ 10 points 3 years ago

No shit.

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Ejh3k 10 points 3 years ago

It's always amazing the greed of this group. I could never afford it, but 300k seems like fucking nothing, to either party. So why do it? Tell them to add a couple zeros, do the bare minimum and disappear into obscurity. The absolute narcissism with this lot, incredible.

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sturmblast 7 points 3 years ago

considering how broke Giuliani seems to be right now 300K probably made a lot of sense at the time

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athos77 10 points 3 years ago

It's been how long since he deliberately took on the Italian mob in New York so that the Russian mob could take over, and they're just discovering his connections now? Pathetic.

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FlyingSquid 9 points 3 years ago

Now do Trump.

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kamenlady 7 points 3 years ago

Pavel Fuks around a lot, but i hope Rudi is the one that finds out ...

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nkat2112 3 points 3 years ago

This was golden - thank you so much!

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CharlesDarwin 7 points 3 years ago

This explains why little donnie's goons want to dismantle the government if they are permitted back into office. People like donnie's goons will be able to get away with stuff like this with zero free reign for the "deep state" (lol) to have any independent investigation, whistleblowing, etc...

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Drinvictus 6 points 3 years ago

What a surprise! Said no one with a brain

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CapgrasDelusion 6 points 3 years ago

Next up on "No Shit"

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Cheems 3 points 3 years ago

😮

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DigitalFrank -15 points 3 years ago

Well, if a FBI agent said it, it must be true.

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DarkDecay 12 points 3 years ago

More like if ghouliani denied it, it must be true

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