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[Video] Ring advertises mass surveillance capabilities in SuperBowl ad
6 months ago by IndustryStandard to c/technology
"since launch, more than a dog a day has been reunited with their family"
Yeah, because cats know how to evade the fascist state. All Cats Are Beautiful ...
AirTag doesnât have facial recognition. Also there is no reverse engineering who an AirTag belongs to. Not even Apple can see in their databases.

goblin mode
Ah i am feel ashamed. I wanted to put besides hairless cats. But i knew there are like a dozen cute ones in total. So i didnt thinking i was being mean.
Im gonna downvote my own comment.
Fucking dumbasses losing their dogs every day.
Yup. I wouldn't put it past the average person to see this and be happy. It hits the feel goods and for people who aren't already attuned to digital privacy concerns they likely aren't going to extrapolate the end game.
Privacy has always been a slippery slope issue which makes it very difficult to explain to people without sounding like a conspiracy theorist. Only when it's too late and people are negatively impacted does it become obvious, and by then it's too late.
Another area that isn't getting enough attention is Amazon Sidewalk. They're actively building out a network so these devices can share information (albeit limited) with each other even if you deny them internet access. Again, the tech is cool, but the possibilities are concerning.
As a kid I used to love tech and I remember reading CES coverage with anticipation and wonder. When Google Glass was demo'd I thought it was the coolest thing. Now there's no way I'd voluntarily put AR glasses that weren't FOSS on my face.
This is 100% the experience I have had. Could not vibe harder with this.
Most of the time people have paid a premium for their new watch, camera, door bell, service and you try to point out that it connecting to the cloud or AI is overly complicated and not required for the result they are so happy about. You go on to say that the company is probably selling, exploiting and using that data to minipulating you..... But you just come off as unhinged.
There is nothing good about america atm the only benifit is that there are some really good examples of why "I've got nothing to hide" is deeply flawed. This helps cut through to normal people.
This wonât be abused at all /s
First it was subpoenas, then it was complying with law enforcement requests. I think the new development is that just anyone can do it.
No kidding, and the feature is on by default. It'll be lost human family members next.
There's the unexpected dark humor FTW.
What part of this is humour? America has several death camps at the moment. People are actively disappearing from the system and can no longer be looked up. No one in the entire regime is able to locate them.
What do you personally think happened to them?
I was trying to point out that this feature may be even worse than that because it doesn't even require a formal law enforcement request. If this becomes what it looks like, even private contractors will be able to access it without raising any alarms, further lowering the bar.
I hadn't even considered this aspect. I guess we can kiss goodbye the witness protection program.
Sorry, but I don't know this reference.
Or you could do what I do and just don't answer the door.
This is horrifying.
Should we buy ring nodes and feed them poisoned video feed?
Benn Jordan was recently doing work on poisoned audio files, making it so models are damaged by ingesting his music. I believe the same should be possible with video streams.
They probably wonât be training on the poisoned nodes, but they sure as hell will be wasting power on them. That makes it more expensive to do this stuff, no?
For me personally, I wouldn't consider it worth the risk. You still have to make an Amazon account, hand over your personal information, let their cameras onto your network (of course, you can VLAN them) and.. how many people are gonna do this to make it effective?
It just seems playing right into their hands, I'd rather outright boycott anything Amazon (I understand easier for some than others) than waste my time, money and effort into protecting my personal info against a user hostile company.
I agree, thatâs the most practical approach and I wouldnât blame anyone for choosing it. For me personally, though, Iâm a little pissed off that these companies get to have such inhostile environment for their shenanigans. Itâs like a playground for them, where they get to happily A|B test the various surveillance state softwares that will eventually get sold to oppressive regimes (just like Flock). Iâm at a point where Iâm willing to spend a not-so-insignificant portion of my time, energy, and know-how on inventing a little bit more friction for them. It shouldnât be so easy for them to fuck us. They didnât even offer dinner, first.
anyone who objects to mass surveillance obviously hates puppies
You got me, but actually I mostly want the christian families and their children to be sad
My wife and I yelled at the same time when that ad played. Insanely dystopian.
It's been real for a long time now, this is how ring works. You have to manually turn this stuff off and no one does.
There are some informative videos on this spy network.
my newest neighbors are having ring cameras installed in my apartment building and that combined with the knowledge that ring shares this data to the highest bidder (which is often the gov't), i feel like my civil rights are being violated every time i have to walk past the ring cameras every time i walk out my front door. lol
it's more peculiar than that: the ring cameras were installed over a month ago, but neither tenants have moved in yet and they both clearly have money since they've both had their apartment renovated by professionals instead of the landlord's maintenance guys.
i'm guessing that these apartments are just their "city home" and i doubt that they will take kindly to a poor telling them how to live.
I wonder how hard it would be to rework this advertisements to be what it's actually used for:
Has been since October
Ring was already "partnered" pretty closely with law enforcement, this is more of a consolidation than a new development. I've been saying this since they first floated the concept of CLOUD BASED SURVEILLANCE DOORBELLS but the whole idea is fucked. If you really feel a need for monitoring like that, set it up yourself. A corporation handling it is worse than nothing
The next step they'll take is hooking into the amber alert system to find missing kids. Then, it will be finding "criminals," which applies to basically everyone thanks to NPSM-7.
The "If I've got nothing to hide, why should I care" argument has predictably aged like sour milk.
They were hinting at its use for that in this ad by showing a young child right away.
The âIf Iâve got nothing to hide, why should I careâ argument has predictably aged like sour milk.
has it? the kind of critical thought that easily dispels this fallacy isn't being applied right now on a global scale as evidenced by the fact that people are blaming russia for the epstein illuminati ring.
Not sure that I'm following/understanding. I'm saying that skeptics of the "if I've got nothing to hide" argument were correct. You do have something to hide if the people in power suddenly change the definition of what's legal.
the "i have nothing to hide" argument is easily dispelled by several avenues of critical thought; including the one your comment points out.
this sort of critical thought is not being applied to the russia/epstein narrative that's taking hold on american politics right now.
Yeah finding the one application that people would support. Everyone loves dogs, well everyone except for our political and business leaders. ie the president and epstein and their like, they hate dogs, go figure.
âthey who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin
Yes I know the issues with the founding father narrative. However, I think that this quote is very true and applies to the situation we are currently facing.
It's ads like this that make people think it's really great, without ever considering the surveillance aspect. Probably some people who now want to get Ring cameras, just so they can help track down lost dogs. Instead, it will be used to hunt down escaping humans.
There should be a version where theyâre brown and at the end they suddenly get bags put over their heads by Trumpâs paramilitary.
Based on what I've seen, it is so so so much worse than you think.
I honestly don't think the majority of those who see this ad will even consider negative uses of this system.
And if you are thinking 'how can people be that stupid', I will remind you that college professors are having to change their curriculums because many of their students can't read.
So yes, it's the day after the super bowl and I am quite sure the Gestapo cameras are flying off the shelves in the Amazon fulfillment centers.
Yes.
Nextdoor is full of morons sharing their ring videos and then going, "Well my videos aren't being shared online to Amazon because I checked the 'privacy' settings."
Sadly true
That's actually insane to advertise that Gestapo feature. I'm literally shocked - which happens (unfortunately) rarely these days. There is so much shit going on in this world
'...and we can even find YOU, anytime we want to."
fuck those snitch ass doorbells
SPRAYPAINT EVERY SINGLE ONE. CALL THEIR OWNERS OUT. DESTROY. THAT. SHIT.
(Writing this with a device in my hand with a front and several back cameras, super sensitive microphone, and internet acces)
this is precisely my setup too.
Wife can even get to them when she's out because she has tailscale connecting her phone to the home network via my headscale control node, not that she could tell you that
suggest a peep hole and a door knocker, don't over comolicate shit, and have a little faith in other people
Which mass surveillance fear product?
There isn't one.
Omfg I just watched this elsewhere. Also it's free. How kind of them.
I think this is just trying to put a good spin on it before any privacy concerns come up.
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Are you aware you posted thrice?
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no im not, fuck sorry
Our thought watching this live was to upload photos of your local ICE agents.
Upload?
Ew wtf
The only counter to this: Sousveillance.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sousveillance
Inverse surveillance
Related Batman quotes:
from IMDB, Morgan Freeman as Lucius Fox voices the consternation perfectly:
Batman: [seeing the wall of monitors for the first time at the Applied Sciences division in Wayne Enterprises] Beautiful, isn't it?
Lucius Fox: Beautiful... unethical... dangerous. You've turned every cellphone in Gotham into a microphone.
Batman: And a high-frequency generator-receiver.
Lucius Fox: You took my sonar concept and applied it to every phone in the city. With half the city feeding you sonar, you can image all of Gotham. This is wrong.
Batman: I've gotta find this man, Lucius.
Lucius Fox: At what cost?
Batman: The database is null-key encrypted. It can only be accessed by one person.
Lucius Fox: This is too much power for one person.
Batman: That's why I gave it to you. Only you can use it.
Lucius Fox: Spying on 30 million people isn't part of my job description.
Phew we don't have ring here, at least not everywhere
Ew wtf
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