waterSticksToMyBalls 84 points 5 months ago

Oh fuck this is terrible! The students are going to have to learn code now

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sem 3 points 5 months ago

We all know only the smart ones will do that.

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shrek_is_love 60 points 5 months ago

Good example of why I don't rely on technology I don't control. I want my workflow to be future-proof and have a predictable cost.

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Munkisquisher 17 points 5 months ago

Yes, when anyone proposes building our tools on top of these services I ask "what will happen to this when they start charging what it really costs to run these models?"

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joelthelion -13 points 5 months ago

In general I agree with you, but llms are the one exception where it's not practical and not cost effective to run them locally. If you want to use them, the better option is by far to pay someone for the service.

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gezero 36 points 5 months ago

That's because now is the phase where they let you try the good stuff cheaper to hook you up.

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joelthelion 1 point 5 months ago

That's true, but there are also massive economies of scale when you can afford the big Nvidia gpus and share them among many people.

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chicken 4 points 5 months ago

Then second best option is an inference provider for open weight models, so at least if they raise the price or stop offering it you can get it from someone else or eventually upgrade to self hosting.

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joelthelion 2 points 5 months ago

I agree. I use openrouter myself.

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exu 4 points 5 months ago

https://openrouter.ai/

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expr 39 points 5 months ago

Good, maybe people will use it less.

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squaresinger 35 points 5 months ago

So it begins. We are past the unlimited money stage and now the cuts begin to make AI somewhat profitable.

Expect more of that in the coming months.

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spartanatreyu 27 points 5 months ago

It's for the best.

Learning how code works is better than getting an LLM to produce convincing looking code without anyone having an understanding of how it works.

LLMs just teach students to paint themselves into a corner without them even realising why bad things keep happening to them.

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PokerChips 8 points 5 months ago

Right. It's actually shocking that copilot is allowed at all. The next generation is going to be so fucking stupid.

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KyuubiNoKitsune 1 point 5 months ago

I agree, but I learn best when I can ask questions a certain way to understand concepts, and as much as people may hate it, it's good at answering questions like that and people are often nasty when others ask questions they assume to be stupid.

Not that I'm a student.

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spartanatreyu 1 point 5 months ago

it’s good at answering questions like that

Are you sure about that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtBI2BvPKBQ

Remember: if you don't know enough about the topic in question to grade its answers then you're not judging its ability to answer accurately, you're judging it's ability to convince you.

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KyuubiNoKitsune 1 point 5 months ago

Same could be said about everything online really.

Trust but verify, that's been the motto since forever.

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akaetis 21 points 5 months ago

Same process as used by drug dealers: first you can try for free, you get addict, then you have to pay.

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MyNameIsRichard 3 points 5 months ago

And both drug dealers and software companies refer to their clients as users.

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thingsiplay 20 points 5 months ago

I feel sorry for anyone relying on Copilot.

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meathorse 9 points 5 months ago

They aren't even waiting for market saturation, they're just speed-running straight into enshittification now

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Croquette 3 points 5 months ago

They can't sustain the loss-lead trying to capture the market.

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sunglocto 8 points 5 months ago

good

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melsaskca 6 points 5 months ago

It's shit like this that make me want to pursue a career in digging ditches with just a shovel, a bag of sandwiches, a thermos of coffee and the warm sunshine. Fuck the modern world. It jumped the rail a while ago now.

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shrek_is_love 4 points 5 months ago

Fuckin' "A."

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Swedneck 1 point 5 months ago

anyone with a yard should be tilling the soil and planting stuff, it's a nice hobby that gives you some fun things to eat, and if (well, kinda feels like when..) international trade goes to shit we'll have people who can keep us fed.

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