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2 months ago by MTZ to c/lemmyshitpost

Steve 123 points 2 months ago

Knowing nothing about the situation, I can see at least couple interpretations of what this might be saying.

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im_just_a_gerbil 87 points 2 months ago
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LH0ezVT 75 points 2 months ago

Throwing a whole group of people in there with the actions of some idiots is a tiny bit rude.

Signed, a straight man who kind of likes not being treated as a rapist and murderer.

Edit: In retrospect, please ignore the second sentence. It distracts from the actual argument, and me picking an arbitrary group should not effect the validity of the first sentence.

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sen 22 points 2 months ago

We'll MAYBE you should have thought of that before being a straight man.

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thethunderwolf 4 points 2 months ago

chill

no one is treating you as a rapist and murderer theyre just saying that what was mentioned (powerful people abusing vulnerable people from vulnerable groups) is mostly a straight people thing

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LH0ezVT 3 points 2 months ago
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im_just_a_gerbil -17 points 2 months ago
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LH0ezVT 14 points 2 months ago

Then let me rephrase it, because I forgot it's the internet and people will try to misunderstand me.

As a member of a non-specified group X, I would hate it if people would precondemn me based on thing Y, which a part of group X does more than the average population.

I could have picked any other stereotype, I just happen to be not a woman, and of the majority ethnicity in my country. Blame my parents.

However, based on this hypothetical, yet relatable thought experiment, saying that a group does a bad thing because some people who happen to be in that group do that bad thing more often than other people is at the very least rude.

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im_just_a_gerbil -16 points 2 months ago
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mika_mika 11 points 2 months ago

I mean, I get it's inappropriate to be like "what about men". It's pretty clear they are talking about blanket judging straight women for Perry's actions. "Not ALL straight women" - ya see?

In my experience though, they lean towards harassing gay men over queer women. 😅

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Walk_blesseD -8 points 2 months ago

frfr it's crazy, nobody said anything about men but he still had to drop in a "not all men" anyway. these fuckin' "people"

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Comrade_Spood -17 points 2 months ago

They are talking about a trend with straight people, not accusing every straight person of being a rapist. Rule of thumb, if someone critiques an identity that you are a part of and the critique doesnt apply to you then its probably not about you. Coming in and saying this type of shit makes you seem like an asshole who isnt listening to marginalized peoples' struggles.

Like for example I hear houseless people complain about nurses and doctors a lot because they tend to assume they are dope-seeking. If I was a nurse, I would listen and do my best not to be the kind of person they are talking about. I would not tell them "You should stop generalizing, cause I don't do that." It feels very invalidating and makes you come off as very self-centered.

I aint gonna say people couldn't rephrase better to avoid over generalization, but just saying that lets stop making it about ourselves when people are talking about real and serious problems affecting them. Be an active listener and dont be a part of the problem if you aint gonna be a part of the solution.

Edit: Crazy how a comment can have +60 upvotes, but a comment defending that comment can get -11.

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Instigate 32 points 2 months ago

Rule of thumb, if someone critiques an identity that you are a part of and the critique doesnt apply to you then its probably not about you.

Try telling that to victims of racism, homophobia, transphobia, and other forms of bigotry. It’s not a particularly sound piece of advice.

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Walk_blesseD 1 point 2 months ago

wow, it's almost as though the power dynamics in a given context are relevant

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petrol_sniff_king -13 points 2 months ago

I'm sure black and gay people love being wielded as a weapon to defend you from mild criticism that wasn't even fired in your direction.

I think I'm pretty good at not being racist. Do you think I spend a lot of time being upset with black people for code switching around me?

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LH0ezVT 6 points 2 months ago

drunk straight women love to SA queer women

That is a very general statement. I really dislike like such blanket statements. Because what is the difference between that and statements like “black people are dumb”, “Mexicans are drug dealers”, or, yes, “straight men are rapists”?

if someone critiques an identity that you are a part of and the critique doesnt apply to you then its probably not about you

If someone critiques a whole identity, they should either make sure that it applies to all or at least the overwhelming majority of that identity, or be prepared to be called a bigot and prejudiced.

To be extremely clear, because I know this is the internet, nuance is dead, and everything has to be black and white and packed for a 10s attention span:

You should critique people. You should point out toxic and hostile behaviour and oppressive social norms. You should, in my humble opinion, never fall into the trap of going from "gay people are bad" to "straight people are bad".

The opposite of a restrictive society that enforces a one-size-fits-all norm (like heterosexuality, or being of $majorityEthnicity) is not an inverse stereotype, it is a free society where people are judged on their actions, not the properties they were born with.

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Comrade_Spood 1 point 2 months ago

Read my reply to walk_blessed and you'll get the nuance. I explain how its different from white supremacists generalizing black people.

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how_we_burned 19 points 2 months ago

think that they will be flattered by it. i’m not surprised

In my experience all the gay guys I knew loved getting handsy with me.

They thought they could make go gay presumably with their "incredible" technique.

Didn't work.....but jeebus the amount of having to fend them off. Not to mention the never ending commentary about how I'd be better off gay.

But I don't consign every gay man to this behaviour in the same way I don't consign hetros who rape women as if somehow all men are rapists.

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MartianRecon 10 points 2 months ago

Can confirm. I've had way more gay men try to be handsy or to try and convince me to fuck around than I've seen the other way around.

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SeptugenarianSenate 15 points 2 months ago

“straight”

/no-phobo

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village604 12 points 2 months ago

Per Ron White, being gay is a spectrum and everyone is at least a, little gay.

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Tollana1234567 -2 points 2 months ago

oh yea kissing that 18yo, but the guy was wierd as fuck, and gave off wierd vibes. NOt surpisingly, later on he was caught posessing CHild porn material in 2024, hes a pedophiles which is why everyone thought he gave off wierd vibes. the guys name is benjamin glaze.

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minorkeys 10 points 2 months ago

You experiencing someone as weird isn't an excuse to dismiss them being sexually harassed/assualted. But I know you'll continue to anyways.

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beep 62 points 2 months ago

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DarrinBrunner 21 points 2 months ago

Okay, but why, specifically, a dog sitting on a face? Are there more details to the event? Or, is this just an assumption?

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frog 44 points 2 months ago

Orange is the New Black star Rose accused Perry of serious sexual assault on social media recently, claiming on Threads that Perry had seen Rose 'resting' on someone's lap at a nightclub and then 'bent down, pulled her underwear to the side and rubbed her disgusting vagina on my face until my eyes snapped open and I projectile vomited on her'.

https://www.ladbible.com/...

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garbagebagel 35 points 2 months ago

Rose tweets: "Purposeful poop" to "bomb a petit" to a sloppy mess of writing over the top of Funkagenda..stop trying to make 'Wit..I mean "fetch" happen."

This references Perry's mission statement to make 'purposeful pop', puns on her song 'Bon Appetit', and claims 'Swish Swish' samples dance act Funkagenda. 'Wit' is a reference to Perry's album Witness, with 'fetch', of course, being a Mean Girls reference.

Even though they translated my brain still imploded. wat.

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ikidd 33 points 2 months ago

Jesus christ, you translated it and I still don't see how that word vomit actually comes to that.

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sp3ctr4l 13 points 2 months ago

It's happening.

Fetch is finally happening.

... In basically the worst and stupidest way possible.

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m_f 61 points 2 months ago

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Harvey656 27 points 2 months ago

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MilitantAtheist 27 points 2 months ago

I have no idea who that is. But I love pugs.

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Etterra 17 points 2 months ago

I know who Katy Perryb is, but the only Ruby Rose I know of is from RWBY.

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tigeruppercut 6 points 2 months ago

she played batwoman

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Tollana1234567 6 points 2 months ago

they make nasty farts though

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MilitantAtheist 1 point 2 months ago

Not really, unless you're talking about Ruby

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doingthestuff 1 point 2 months ago

Pugs are way better than Katy Perry.

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REDACTED 3 points 2 months ago

Was it before or after Rose vomitted on Perry?

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MTZ 8 points 2 months ago

If I understand correctly....Rose way laying on a couch because she didn't feel well. Perry came up and sat on her face. As a result, Rose projectile vomited, likely due to intoxication as well as having an unfamiliar vag shoved in her face. (allegedly)

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HeroicBillyBishop 3 points 2 months ago

And our boi Justin might be getting in on that

Sophie must be PISSED

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GreenBeanMachine 1 point 2 months ago
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dankm 1 point 2 months ago

Wait, is Katy Perry the ostrich. or is Ruby Rose?

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lyralycan -22 points 2 months ago

That's cool, but wtf is it a conversation on Lemmy for

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StarvingMartist 104 points 2 months ago

Why not? You can talk about other things than Linux and star trek you know

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ikidd 49 points 2 months ago

I don't believe you.

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ashenone 35 points 2 months ago

Jfc you sound like my therepist

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SirSamuel 23 points 2 months ago

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Harvey656 17 points 2 months ago

We can always call eachother fascists for disagreeing with eachother politically! A lemmy pastime!

Im not salty I swear lol.

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flambonkscious 7 points 2 months ago

Oh... I thought they were calling each other fashion and was so comfused!

What, what's a fascist? Is that looks fisting or something violet keeps posing about?

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Harvey656 3 points 2 months ago

It is a fashion of sorts.

Whoa, its best to not look into that last part. I mean, unless you want to. O.o

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mika_mika 4 points 2 months ago

I usually browse /all with anything politics and technology filtered out. It's pretty much just Trek, Porn, and Boomer comics. I really don't think fediverse is ready to branch out yet.

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plyth 2 points 2 months ago

Why branch out when everybody else can join in?

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bwhough 22 points 2 months ago

Never heard of a shitpost?

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glups 9 points 2 months ago

#notmylemmy

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thethunderwolf 1 point 2 months ago

What?

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