A diver has died after an attack by a suspected 4.5-meter shark near Michaelmas Island. It is the third fatal shark attack in Australia in three weeks.
funkless_eck 3 points 2 months ago
they were probably bringing attention to the fact that most sharks don't want to attack people at all and rarely do it and hoping for no retaliation
Strawberry -7 points 2 months ago
He did deserve it. The shark attacked him as he was swimming around killing other animals
vk6flab 12 points 2 months ago
The diver was spearfishing. Also, an Australian source, rather than a German one.
Modern_medicine_isnt 6 points 2 months ago
Spearfishing seems like stacking one risk on top of another.
Strawberry -14 points 2 months ago
He fuckin deserved it
elucubra 8 points 2 months ago
Spear fishing, or any traditional fishing method, forr food, is about as ethical as it gets. It's a pretty even field. You're out of your element, and using muscle power, while exerting yourself, while running out of oxigen.
Trawling and other intensive methods are not.
Bow hunting large animals, especially boar, which can be dangerous as all fuck, is also fine by me. Shooting small game with fucking 12 gauge, is not.
nitroemdash 3 points 2 months ago
How does a method being traditional make it more ethical? Aren't more ethical methods of hunting about minimising agony of an animal when killed using all available technology? So a firearm shot would be more ethical than slow-to-kill arrow?
elucubra 1 point 2 months ago
1st. I'm an omnivore. You are too. We are not hevibores. It's a survival trait. Rats, bears, and a few other animals are too. There is the question of choice, of course. I choose to remain what evolution has made me. That said, I try to eat as much free range meat/fish (I'm still trying to figure out the problem of aquaculture vs intensive and destructive fishing) as I possibly can.
2nd. Animals are part of a freeding chain, except for a few, like us, Orcas, etc. who are apex predators.
3rd. I don't hunt anymore, but I still fish. I feel better if the animal, my adversary, is in somewhat even terms. Call it some twisted atavic logic, but to me it makes it ethically acceptable.
BTW, I do get a pleasure from winning that fight, but I don't derive pleasure from the death itself.
Also, if minimizing the agony means that the animal has no chance, I know what I'd choose, having a chance.
But that's just me. However, just as I respect the choice of vegetarians and vegans, I do not acknowledge the rights of others judging me for being what evolution has made me. I do, however , try to be a "better" animal eater.
Crackhappy 0 points 2 months ago
I consider your argument the more ethical one. If an animal is going to die, isn't the most humane method the most ethical? However, I also see the other side, which is giving the animal the chance to kill the human first. It's kinda twisted logic. If you're going that route then the most humane method would be not kill them at all.
Strawberry -2 points 2 months ago
Fine by you does not mean fine by the animal. It's not "about as ethical as it gets". That's completely delusional. Exercising and holding your breath does not factor into the ethics of needless killing.
anon_8675309 2 points 2 months ago
Killing plants is unethical.
poopkins 2 points 2 months ago
We desperately need to find a way to exterminate these wretched creatures from the face of the planet. If there was ever a reason to deliberately make something go extinct, this has got to be the one.
KarnaSubarna 1 point 2 months ago
Mosquitoes are part of food chain. They causes harm to us, but making them extinct is not an option unless we know how to manage the gap in food chain it will leave behind.
poopkins 1 point 2 months ago
There's not any scientific consensus on that, and most biologists believe that they are in fact not an essential part of any other organism's diet.
There's something to be argued in favor of their existence, however: they are the single most significant reason humans haven't developed more of natural habitats like the rain forest.
Viking_Hippie 1 point 2 months ago
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