Canada's largest unions have condemned a Senate report that recommends Ottawa be empowered to halt strikes and impose contracts through binding arbitration in the rail and marine sectors.

2 months ago by Wudi to c/canada

'We need a way to resolve work stoppages to keep our railways and ports open for business,' says senator
Typhoon 34 points 2 months ago

'We need a way to resolve work stoppages to keep our railways and ports open for business,' says senator

Pay them fairly?

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SwingingTheLamp 19 points 2 months ago

After nationalizing the rails and ports. I mean, if they're that important to the economy, and all.

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TemplaerDude 18 points 2 months ago

Stop fucking getting involved!!!!!

These companies are not negotiating because they know the government will intervene. They ARE NOT negotiating in good faith.

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SubstituteTurkey 13 points 2 months ago

First hand experience here, they never negotiate in good faith. There's no repercussions for them. If there were, they don't mind blowing money on fines and lawyers anyway.

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SubstituteTurkey 7 points 2 months ago

Yes please. I'm a railway worker. When it comes to arbitration, they reference the wages of the only other railway to justify shotty pay increases. 2 years later, arbitration steps in for them and references our shitty wages are justification to fuck them. We're in a feedback loop...or a death spiral. Oh, and until it was mandated by the federal government a few years ago, we had 0 sick days, 0 personal days, 0 floater days etc... small vacation only. Very little quality of life. Always travelling, always on call. No wonder they can't keep employees.

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grte 3 points 2 months ago

From what I recall hearing about the job from the one CN conductor I knew, it sounded like what they really need is some work life balance provisions. The on call requirements that guy put up with were nuts.

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Zephorah 12 points 2 months ago

Jesus. You guys aren’t doing much better on authoritarianism these days.
Your internet ID bill. Squelching unions now.

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avidamoeba 13 points 2 months ago

Now? This been going on for decades. Governments of both red and blue stripes have done various kinds of union busting both federally and privincially. We still have more unions left than say the US but shit ain't looking up in the status quo.

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Canconda 10 points 2 months ago

Go ahead. Make the NDP's day.

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MycelialMass 7 points 2 months ago

Whenever i see this shit I think just strike anyways. If the jobs are so important they need to try to force people back the labor holds the cards. Just. Dont. Work.

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Gates9 3 points 2 months ago

BNSF, East Palestine Ohio, bomb trains, skeleton crews.

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melsaskca -9 points 2 months ago

If a union, a subset of the citizenry, causes hardships for the rest of the citizenry by striking, then fuck them. Also, let's start passing laws to protect the working citizens who are the social fabric of the country, then maybe we could wean ourselves off of paying our hard-earned money to a middle-man who will "protect" us.

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brax 6 points 2 months ago
  1. That is the entire point of a strike. Don't blame the workers, blame the companies for forcing the workers to have no other option.

  2. The second you wean off the unions, the companies will go 180 and turbo-charge the path back to where we currently are, but worse because there is nobody left to fight them.

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melsaskca 1 point 2 months ago

In a corporatocracy? Then I agree with you. Otherwise we have a government that's not working for the people. That's the big issue here. I think you may mean that the corps truly control everything and the government is just a façade? Who knows anymore. The one basic thing that I know is that everyone should have access to food, shelter, and warmth. Not just smug gangs who throw their money together.

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Tiger666 6 points 2 months ago

Your intellectual shallownes is showing, you might want to hide it.

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melsaskca 1 point 2 months ago

"Oh no! He's stupid! He's not like us!". Now that's the collectivism I'm talkin' 'bout.

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ILikeBoobies 4 points 2 months ago

It's the companies not accepting the union contract that's the problem.

Back to work legislation should force companies to accept the union contract until they can negotiate a proper one.

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melsaskca 1 point 2 months ago

It's our government being paid of by lobbyists and not passing solid worker legislation that's the problem. In the meantime there are pockets of the protected "exclusive club members" ,while most others are left hanging in the wind.

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Saledovil 3 points 2 months ago

Companies sell goods or services that people are willing to pay money for. Hence the company operations being disrupted would naturally cause hardship for society. Your approach would rule out all effective labor action.

In general, a rising tide lifts all ships. If wages in one sector rise, it creates pressure to raise them in other sectors. Part of working class solidarity is enduring those hardships.

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melsaskca 1 point 2 months ago

I think more people are not even on the ships than those that are, but that's a good old trope. It gets pulled up often, over time, while we get further and further from universal collectivism. But you and your union buddies are on the ships so it's all good.

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