It's time to dump Roku

6 days ago by Skavau to c/television

I'm so done with Roku.
snooggums 67 points 6 days ago

If you feel similarly grossed out by the Fox acquisition, I'd recommend you make similar moves. Instead of a Roku Stick, you could use the Google TV Streamer or Apple TV 4K, both of which offer more modern interfaces than Roku's.

Oh yes, the exemplar of stealing your data and the biggest walled garden in tech are far superior choices!

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masterbaexunn 22 points 5 days ago

Maybe I'm confused, but those are pretty much the only choices?? Oh wait throw amazon in there too I guess lmao

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TheLowestStone 22 points 5 days ago

There are always options.

Plug a laptop into your TV via HDMI and buy a cheap Bluetooth keyboard. Install ublock origin. Sail on over to a certain community on Db0 for some advice on free streaming services.

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masterbaexunn 20 points 5 days ago

For most people, that's work, not an "option" per se. Also, most people run win11 and we can all agree that's a horrendous option on a tv

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Manalith 4 points 5 days ago

And most people are fine with giving their data to Google, Samsung, etc. and that's fine if it works for them, but for the people who don't mind a little more work, the options are there.

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makeshift0546 7 points 5 days ago

Most people are not dealing with that. Making a laptop work as well as a dedicated remote first device is a pain in the ass for most people. People want panel and remote based ui's first.

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TheLowestStone 3 points 5 days ago

I never said most people would do it. I said there are other options and described one. If people want to be lazy, that's on them.

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bridgeenjoyer 1 point 5 days ago

It takes such a minimal amount of effort nowadays to set up a barebones pi or laptop with Linux , hook to TV and just watch in web browser or use a graphical frontend like kodi. Theres millions of sources for doing all of this.

Oh well , my coworkers can complain to me about $250 monthly cable bills. I'll just smile.

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bridgeenjoyer 2 points 5 days ago

This is exactly what I do almost to a T, but I use an Atari VCS (not the original 🙃) and a Logitech wireless KB. Or my phone through KDE connect.

It works just fine, SO likes it. If people would try, but theyre lazier than they have ever been, and dumb. It really was not that long ago that an HTPC was somewhat common.

People only know what big tech feeds them.

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iltoroargento 3 points 5 days ago

We can blame the lazier and dumber part on Fox and the Murdochs as well. It's a whole ecosystem of misinformation, dependency, and evil.

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Town 1 point 5 days ago

Divide by zero?

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TheLowestStone 1 point 5 days ago

Yes. The community in question is blocked on .world.

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RamenJunkie 8 points 5 days ago

Google is literally a spyware company.

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snooggums 4 points 5 days ago

Until roku starts shitting the bed it is the least worst choice for those that want ready to go streaming sticks or TVs. I will continue using my roku sticks until they force ads. I already turned off all the home ads and suggestions except the one for roklue or whatever I couldn't find a setting for.

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Blue_Morpho 5 points 5 days ago

least worst choice

I have Roku because they haven't died yet but AppleTV is a better choice. It's a Roku without the ads.

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snooggums 1 point 5 days ago

Does apple tv have a streaming stick?

I couldn't find one and couldn't tell if the box had some easy way to mount it to the wall behind the tv.

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relativestranger 1 point 5 days ago

haven't had mine connected for a few months but my dietpi with the free adguard home (like pihole) was working great to block the ads on the ui and in a lot of the programming in the 'free' apps.

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optimisticturtle 9 points 5 days ago

Normies just aren't going to self host nor do they give a shit that big tech harvests their data.

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blitzen 9 points 5 days ago

My personal choice has been the “walled garden.” And as “walled in” as it is, it streams Jellyfin just fine.

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snooggums 3 points 5 days ago

Can you put jellyfin on a USB/HDMI stick?

I like the form factor.

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rainwall 7 points 5 days ago

Jellyfin client needs to run on an OS. I use a raspi 5 as the local PC, then libreelec, to run the jellyfin for kodi client. It works flawlessly.

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blitzen 3 points 5 days ago

I have no idea. But to be wife-approved it’s got to be navigable from the couch, and a USB stock doesn’t sound like it would be.

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lemming741 2 points 5 days ago

It only takes 4 minutes to boot

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phoenixz 3 points 5 days ago

Agreed

Nay better open source options for this, or should I just get a raspberry pie with a jellyfin client?

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rainwall 5 points 5 days ago

Yeah that works well. There is also Kodi, which is an excellent and deep FOSS project for HTPCs. It has native jellyfin clients from the jellyfin devs if you want to go all in on jellyfin, but also has its own interface as well for other apps like ad free YouTube/etc.

For an OS, I'd recommend "libreelec," which is just a Linux distro that boots immediately into kodi.

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Vittelius 5 points 5 days ago path: 0 24302137 24303012 24303961, hotness: undefined, score: 5, children: 0
schwim 27 points 6 days ago

I was ready to discount this as pearl clutching but after reading it, I'm of the same mindset.

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Eldritch 6 points 5 days ago

It's long been time to dump Roku. This is just the last few nails in the coffin.

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JeSuisUnHombre 20 points 6 days ago

What do I do if I already have roku and it's the only thing I have?

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iltoroargento 14 points 6 days ago

Factory reset and never connect it to the internet.

Edit: That's if you want to keep it a dumb tv. I know there are likely OS alternatives if you want to bother, but I ended up just resetting mine and keeping it connected to my mini-pc.

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SpaceNoodle 11 points 6 days ago

And what about Roku devices that aren't TVs?

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RaoulDook 12 points 6 days ago

Pi-hole all the domains not required for content streaming

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SillyDude 4 points 5 days ago

They're great for screen casting. Reset and no more internet. Just screen mirror your phone playing apps that don't have ads.

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Feyd 13 points 6 days ago

What's a good alternative? I'm fine installing alternative OS and was looking at some lineageOS TV stuff but seeing mixed reports on whether you can get full quality on streaming services that way

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Tiresia 14 points 6 days ago path: 0 24301493 24301865, hotness: undefined, score: 14, children: 0
keyez 4 points 6 days ago

The Onn streaming devices are recommended a lot. I picked one up for a new TV and besides needing a google account it's inoffensive and supports Projectivity launcher to customize and reduce ads.

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relativestranger 2 points 5 days ago

needing a google account

no ty. i'd rather use a pc-based device even if it means my 'remote control' is a wireless mini-keyboard with trackpad.

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Fetus 2 points 5 days ago

I have a Shield TV running LineageOS. It tells me that the device is not optimised for Netflix, but it plays in 1080. I mostly just use Jellyfin, mostly.

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AbsolutelyClawless 1 point 5 days ago

What's the benefit of running LOS over stock Android Shield ships with? Asking as someone who has the device with Projectivity Launcher, Jellyfin, Immich Frame, etc. Is it for degoogling?

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defaultusername 1 point 5 days ago

Does it playback Dolby Vision and HDR10+ content?

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Fetus 1 point 5 days ago

Not sure about Netflix, but 4k Dolby Vision / HDR10 through Jellyfin is fine. I don't know if I have any HDR10+ files to check, I'll find out and let you know.

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defaultusername 1 point 5 days ago

Oh, cool. I read on the LineageOS wiki that Dolby Vision doesn't work on the shield with LOS installed, so good to hear that it works. The LOS wiki also says that Nvidia's AI upscaling doesn't work, so not sure if that's also the case.

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sylver_dragon 11 points 5 days ago

Yo ho, yo ho,a
[The rest of this comment has been removed per a DMCA take down request. Piracy makes The Mouse mad.]

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happysplinter 1 point 5 days ago

Could someone out there possibly DM me a place to go for taking a small boat out on the water? I used to sail when I was younger, but now the waves take a real toll on my older body. I just don't know the calmer waters these days. Climate change.

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corsicanguppy 9 points 5 days ago

I'm going to turn off network access on my two Roku TVs (which will keep them from monetizing my attention). For those sets, I'm going to pick up a used Apple TV 4K and dig up my older 1080p Apple TV.

From frying pan to fire in one easy step.

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kandoh 8 points 5 days ago

They bought tubi too which is a damn shame.

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relativestranger 1 point 5 days ago

they owned a part of roku at that time, and were forced to sell that to buy tubi.

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makeshift0546 8 points 5 days ago

Just steal the content and get a good android TV with Plex or jellyfin if you hate yourself.

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justaman123 4 points 5 days ago

Which of those three things do you do if you hate yourself?

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iltoroargento 3 points 5 days ago

Any, really. All if you completely loathe yourself, though:)

Honestly, jellyfin is the way to go, though. At least it's just you hating yourself and not a whole company and ad machine hating you too, like with plex.

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justaman123 3 points 5 days ago

I prefer Kodi>umbrella>torbox. It was real debrid but they got kinda broken after they were sold. Im still riding out my subscription but still

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makeshift0546 -1 points 5 days ago

Plex is fine as long as your not paying monthly. I spent my $75 15 years ago. It'll take a lot to get me to swap off.

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baronvonj 2 points 5 days ago

Either works. Plex is heavy down the enshitification path but is great for remote access sharing. And Jellyfin is harder to get hardware transcoding going well and the clients aren't as good and it's very insecure to run for remote access (basically you need to VPN into your home network instead of public remote access).

edit: fixed "so secure" to "insecure"

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Magnum 1 point 5 days ago

Plex

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makeshift0546 -1 points 5 days ago

🤣👌👍

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ToastedRavioli 1 point 5 days ago

Yes

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makeshift0546 -1 points 5 days ago

Jellyfin. Absolute dumpster fire with any remote. I honestly can't believe they have made a remote friendly UI.

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justaman123 2 points 5 days ago
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MonkeBizNES 6 points 5 days ago

Just connect a raspberry pi or a mini PC to your TV; you can steam Netflix/Hulu/etc from web browsers. Get yourself a wireless keyboard with a track pad to control it.

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Atherel 3 points 5 days ago

The raspberry pi supports cec, you can control it with the remote.

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dharmacurious 1 point 5 days ago

these are even better IMHO

That's just an example link from eBay, not recommending that item or seller specifically. But you can get them that run off a USB dongle, or Bluetooth. They're absolutely fantastic.

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Zarxrax 6 points 5 days ago

I watch TV over antenna, and my Roku TV has a great interface for that. Antenna is just a simple tile right next to my other inputs or apps. It has a nice guide so I can see what's on, and I can pause and rewind. Is there any other TV or device that offers this convenience?

I really would like to switch because my Roku TVs are constantly freezing and crashing and have to be rebooted.

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demizerone 5 points 5 days ago

This is a space that needs alternative. I use Nvidia shield but it defaults to Googles home page so I see ads

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relativestranger 2 points 5 days ago

roku was pretty much the only viable 'alternative' to the big companies and studios. didn't even need a credit card (nocc link) or to reveal personal details other than an email for an account (for the devices)-could watch free stuff without a login with the browser. if you did pay for stuff, you can sub to several other services through roku (kinda like how prime does it).

fox was actually forced to sell its stake in roku when it bought tubi a few years ago. that should be enough right there to say fu go away, but ofc this admin will conveniently ignore that fact and give roku and its ~ 150 million screens to the propaganda machine that is fox.

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Tollana1234567 5 points 5 days ago

now that FOX news corp(not disney fox) will likely use roku to peddle scams and right wing propaganda, you should throw it away.

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Blackmist 4 points 5 days ago

Who are they kidding? It's been years since they started scanning everything you were watching to inject ads into it. If people were happy with that, they're happy with this.

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SouthFresh 3 points 5 days ago

Ditched my roku with the policy change that required agreeing, or no access to the device. It went in the bin.

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Bluescluestoothpaste 3 points 5 days ago

Roku was trash from day one, the original advertelevision, i cant fathom what person it would make sense for, just people falling for marketing but it really doesn't make sense to buy one or even accept it as a gift -- but idk people also buy amazon sticks which are basically convert your tv to a roku device. Idk man people are dumb and scumbags take advantage wcyd

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zybir 3 points 6 days ago

I only use my Roku for rifftrax. I wish those guys would make one for Android TV.

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aloofPenguin 2 points 5 days ago

I did find their channel on YouTube and Pluto TV. if you can install Kodi, I'd look into the unofficial Pluto TV addon
E: or the Pluto app?

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zybir 1 point 5 days ago

They have another app for streaming that has newer riffs behind a subscription. I started paying for it as reparations for getting riffs from places other than the website, but now it's become my wife and I's go to chill time. Last I saw it was only available on Roku or Fire TV. Hopefully I can install it on Plasma TV whenever that drops.

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JoMiran 3 points 5 days ago

I factory reset the Roku TVs and replaced the set top units with Google Streamers and Nvidia Shields.

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TankovayaDiviziya 2 points 5 days ago

The epitome of capitalism. Cancer sucks everything.

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Olgratin_Magmatoe 2 points 6 days ago

I don't have the skills, but I'd love to see some clean room design be done on roku.

Fuck em.

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schema 1 point 5 days ago
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1hitsong 1 point 5 days ago

🙁

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Nihilore 1 point 5 days ago

i've never even known what Roku is

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Tollana1234567 2 points 5 days ago

its basically "low cost tv" subsidized by constant ads.

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Rooster326 1 point 5 days ago

It's what people say when they sneeze

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__Lost__ 1 point 5 days ago

It's the Japanese word for 6

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Bluescluestoothpaste 1 point 5 days ago

It's a smart tv preloaded with ads, idk but i guess people like ads? I don't get it.

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orbitz 1 point 5 days ago

I knew it was a box think I first saw it when curious about a hardware kodi (say 15-18 years ago?) back when they were newer. Though I just wanted something to show me what I have in my network, never used the other streaming on it, maybe missed out I dunno.

Oh I replied cause I wanted a device/program to have a nice browsing interface for my owned files, and having a program with ads? Big nope. Mean maybe I missed out but nothing I've read seemed overly interesting when I just wanted a nice interface. Now just use a PC with Kodi for my stuff with browsers / apps for streaming, works well enough. Probably pay too many services but not the only one in the house.

If I could never see another ad I'd be so happy heh south Park flashbacks.

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