It is the same story in lots of countries now, with the pretend to be left (but center-right) party you go down and with the ultra right wing you go down quickly and on wheels

Because democrats enable them.

They argued, and won in court, that they are a private corporation and voters are not entitled to fair elections and they are under no obligation to listen to the will of the voters regarding the candidates they select to win the nomination of their party

Just like in New York City. Get good candidates and elect them in the primaries.

By voting blue only if the candidate is a genocidal piece of shit, and opposing any progressive candidate.

Which is the only thing "vote blue no matter who" has ever meant.

We can get a lot of the way there by not rubber stamping their bad candidates. They need to know that if they play chicken with the voters we wont blink-- but we always have in the past. We'll let the republicans drive this country right into the gutter if the DNC doesnt actually court our vote and just does whatever the rich donors and AIPAC want. The centrist voters would rather roll over and say they were powerless to influence the DNC, and vote for whatever trashy candidate the DNC sleezes into place. Theres nothing down that centrist road. It'l be a painful fight and we'll take a lot of lumps letting republicans win if the DNC effs with us, but its the only strategy we realistically have.

I think the centrists probably hate the voters.

That's how they passed the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts, huh? By stopping structural change

You're right that Democrats are near-powerless right now, but it was only a few short years ago when they were in power. Let's not forget their actions.

When in power, they did not concern themselves with the daily atrocities or the banality of evil.

Their overwhelming support for the genocide in Palestine is just the tip of the banality iceberg.

I am American, and i am getting very tired of hearing "they CAN'T do things because they have to play by the rules!"

You must not be American. Right now all branches of the Federal Government and the majority of states’ governments are Republican. Democrats have absolutely no power to do anything but talk.

It's funny that when the roles are reversed and democrats have majorities, they're still powerless. They're just malingering and useless.

No, I’ll agree with you in general, but I would also say that both sides are generally working for billionaires and operate generally as neoliberal parties. Biden even proudly confessed his capitalist convictions.

I don’t disagree that if this last election had gone differently we’d be in a different probably better position, but I also don’t think we have universal healthcare. Plenty more nuance to that than will fit in a comments section, but yes I agree but there’s a lot more to it and people hear democratic promises but don’t often see democratic action.

But also at this point it’s becoming less two neoliberal parties and more the neoliberal party and the fascist party, so yes I’ll 100% take the neoliberal over the fascist.

The choice was almost always, come to choose the lesser of two evils. Unfortunately people think by not voting it will somehow make a difference, when in reality it just shows that people give up when it’s too hard and expect someone else to fix it. The first basic step is always to keep the boulder from rolling further downhill by voting to prevent more decline. Given enough time, change can happen, you just have to realize it’s incredibly slow moving like evolution and requires more of us at the top instead of sitting on our hands and letting social influence turds fill the offices.
It isn’t like this can’t be retaken, it just requires more than one person taking office.

You are literally advocating for US imperialism in your BS reply

Democrats are far from perfect

Your daily reminder that BlueMaga liberals don't consider non-westeners to be human, because that's the only way you can describe active genocide as "not perfect"

Do you think we’d have war in Iran, no USAID, and dismantled regulatory agencies if Kamala had won the last election?

100% I do think we'd be at war with Iran under Harris. The war was launched at Netenyahu's demand and Biden's white house had "no limits" when it came to Israel. When did Biden or Harris ever flat out say no to Israel and back it with actions? One weapon system being delayed for a few days and some propoganda vibes is what you lot base your entire argument on. Biden gave Israel anything and everything it wanted, and Harris is married to a frothing zionist, and he and his zionist brother ran her campaign. To suggest Harris would have been better or stronger is pure fantasy. AIPAC 100% runs the dems, and AIPAC would have gotten their war either way.

https://www.armscontrol.org/...

No Limits: The Biden Administration's Support for Israel's War on Gaza [https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/...

Why is Biden/Harris's stand on this matter ok with you? Why do you draw the line specifically at Iran war? Is it because it raised your gas prices, but you dont give a crap about what else Israel is doing with US taxpayer money?

oh thanks :)

Well, I assume that a democratic party that meets the demands of an actual socialist/communist will be unrecognizable from the pile of pathetic cowards we have today, having only the name in common.

I didn't say anything about a dictatorship. A democracy isn't thousands of people propping up a single figurehead to "represent" them, time has taught us countless times all that accomplishes is a recipe for corruption. Democracy looks like people assemblies and congresses, people actually representing people. The fact that you and others saw my comment and immediately went to dictatorship actually really illustrates my point. The west has a lot to learn about democracy.

"Anyone to my left wants a dictatorship!" - the pro-genocide center.

Only because you don't think that the lives of foreigners have value

Do you mean when both are at their worst democracy is better than dictatorship? Or always?

They know.

Trump rapes kids.

Simple, step one is regaining control of Congress this November.

Literally nothing will get better if Republicans continue to control Congress.

Step two is uncapping the House. There are already members of Congress with bills ready to go that would do just that.

Those two items would fix about 75% of America's problems.

It's not "hopping on the bandwagon", with the way your election system is rigged, there are only two options for a lot of places, anything else is a wasted vote

If you got rid of the Electoral Colleges and the FPP then suddenly it's not a wasted vote

You can be working towards voter reform and be voting for Democrats at the same time. They aren't mutually exclusive.

In the United States, for over a hundred years, the ruling interests tirelessly propagated anticommunism among the populace, until it became more like a religious orthodoxy than a political analysis. During the cold war, the anticommunist ideological framework could transform any data about existing communist societies into hostile evidence. If the Soviets refused to negotiate a point, they were intransigent and belligerent; if they appeared willing to make concessions, this was but a skillful ploy to put us off our guard. By opposing arms limitations, they would have demonstrated their aggressive intent; but when in fact they supported most armament treaties, it was because they were mendacious and manipulative. If the churches in the USSR were empty, this demonstrated that religion was suppressed; but if the churches were full, this meant the people were rejecting the regime's atheistic ideology. If the workers went on strike (as happened on infrequent occasions), this was evidence of their alienation from the collectivist system; if they didn't go on strike, this was because they were intimidated and lacked freedom. A scarcity of consumer goods demonstrated the failure of the economic system; an improvement in consumer supplies meant only that the leaders were attempting to placate a restive population and so maintain a firmer hold over them.

If communists in the United States played an important role struggling for the rights of workers, the poor, African-Americans, women, and others, this was only their guileful way of gathering support among disfranchised groups and gaining power for themselves. How one gained power by fighting for the rights of powerless groups was never explained. What we are dealing with is a nonfalsifiable orthodoxy, so assiduously marketed by the ruling interests that it affected people across the entire political spectrum.

M. Parenti in Blackshirts and reds

Yeah this argument is pretty much on the same level as people who say Republicans fought to end slavery centuries ago