Starmer expected to resign on Monday and set out orderly exit

2 days ago by stumu415 to c/world

The prime minister now accepts that his time has run out as majority of Labour MPs now back Andy Burnham
Canadian_Cabinet 55 points 2 days ago

I don't closely follow British politics, but what's up with all of their more recent Prime Ministers resigning before their term is up?

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MartianSands 58 points 2 days ago

The party has the ability to kick them out, which they'd rather do as far as possible from a general election so that the new leader can be in a position to carry out a successful campaign.

When they resign between elections, it's usually a matter of leaving before they're kicked out, to minimise the damage of a public power struggle

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CapuccinoCoretto 13 points 2 days ago

Can you explain it like I'm Canadian, why Starmer in particular is leaving? I know one of his appointees had some scandal I can't remember, but why is Starmer in so much shit these days?

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milkisklim 21 points 2 days ago

Like a Canadian, I'll give it a shot.

So basically, theres a whole party of insane people who make the Alberta Separatists seem reasonable that have a preceved chance of becoming the next party in power.

Starmer is in deep because he isn't popular with the opposition for obvious reasons, and he lost support among his base because he hasn't really stood up to the pro Israel crowd.

The whole Peter Mandelson, UK ambassador to the US who also was a big friend of Epstein, being appointed without proper vetting, is just a Cherry on top.

Does this make enough sense ?

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CapuccinoCoretto 2 points 2 days ago

The Mandelson thing I knew, but is it really just his Isreal stance that killed a PM?

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deadbeef79000 6 points 2 days ago

In short: Rearranging chairs on the Titanic.

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cattywampas 11 points 2 days ago

That's not really helpful or informative.

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Dultas 5 points 2 days ago

It's symbolic more than anything. Just like rearranging chairs on a sinking ship isn't going to save the ship.

Just a new face on the same policies so the party can pretend they changed. The current leader knows they have no chance to win a vote so it is better to save a little face and resign.

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cattywampas 8 points 2 days ago

I'm familiar with the analogy. It means it's a futile effort. But it didn't explain anything about the UK in particular like the second sentence of this comment did.

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ikidd 3 points 2 days ago

No, you're a towel.

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deadbeef79000 2 points 2 days ago

The PM is the most prominent representative in the public eye. They are the figurehead of the government.

When the government is failing (by any definition) that figurehead is the one who 'takes one for the team'. Occasionally another Minister might be the one to take the fall for a particularly egregious failure in their department.

The party in government nor the officials in the public service change. Just the figurehead... Do nothing actually changes, nothing is done to address the actual problems causing the government to 'fail'.

This is more or less true in all Westminster style parliaments. In the US, for example, having the king president fire their Secretary of whatever department tends to be the M.O.

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marxismtomorrow 18 points 2 days ago

starmer expected to resign

Ding dong the genocidal far-right shit is leav-

Andy Burnham

Oh, Labour still hasn't learned any lessons then. I remember when Labour had different values to UKIP. It really wasn't that long ago.

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itsjustachairmary 12 points 2 days ago

Labour doing Labour things

'We have a new guy now! Hooray!'

'Does the new guy also suck?'

'YES!'

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Bubbaonthebeach 18 points 2 days ago

I really wish that UK parlimentarians would try to spend at least as much time solving actual problems that the UK is facing instead of the constant, can we get rid of PM/party leader and sub in a new one, that seems to be their entire focus of the last decade.

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Jhex 5 points a day ago

I think I hve taking shits that stank longer than UK PMs of late

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eestileib 3 points 2 days ago

Aww boo. I was hoping he would barricade himself in

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