No
I don't think so
No
I don't think so
It does matter, because that Google integration didn't happen by magic. Whatever the site is, they chose to do things that way.
The only way Google stops things like this is if they get actual pushback, and the only realistic way to achieve that is to make the people using their service reconsider.
archive.is in this case
What are good alternatives?
It looks like a Cloudflare interstitial. I also don't think sites get to choose which challenge types show up in reCAPTCHA, so this is on Google.
The site is using Cloudflare for DDoS protection, and unfortunately Cloudflare is probably the most effective tool for this. It also looks like it might be archive.org in the screenshot, and they've been dealing with a lot of DDoS attacks lately.
I don't think Google advertises "we force you to scan a QR code" as a feature of reCAPTCHA either, so it feels a little weird to me to blame the site for using a DDoS protection tool that in turn uses reCAPTCHA for human verification when Google randomly decides to add a new stupid challenge type.
As far as I know, Cloudflare doesn't use reCaptcha. I think they use a version of hCaptcha running on their own workers.
None of these are about identifying if you're human, they're about identifying which human you are.
Really
I tried watching some yt in librewolf made me do 5 captchas an i had to switch vpn location so fuck google
For me freetube usually only works about 30% of the time.
Depending on your configuration, your experience will differ greatly.
As mentioned in another comment I made, Freetube relies heavily on either directly connecting to YouTube’s API or proxying through an Invidious instance, perhaps try a different Invidious instance, but in my case Freetube + Invidious works 9 times out of 10 for me.
I use Freetube, what does Invidious do?
There are two ways of using Freetube, either with YouTube’s APi or with Invidious’s APi.
When using YouTube’s APi you won’t get the same ad-blocking and proxying benefits compared to Invidious’s API.
One bonus of using Invidious is that your traffic is combined with everyone else’s who use that same instance, for example if you use https://inv.nadeko.net/ your traffic will be masked along side everyone else’s who happens to use that same instance making it harder for big corporations to track you, in this case Google.
Creating an infrastructure that could potentially ingest terrabytes of data per second, and then processing it into multiple resolutions, is a massive ask.
Especially for a new site that might not ever get picked up by users, much less creators.
I think the only people that have a hope in hell of having a success at starting a youtube competitor are the owners of the big porn sites, since they are in a similar, if much smaller than youtube business with regards to infrastructure demands and processing needs. . So they have the institutional knowledge and infrastructural inertia to get started easier than anyone else on the planet. assuming they want to do a SFW video site, which they may not want to do, and it'd probably be burdened forever with right wing outrage due to any tenuous, distant connection to the porn sites (even if its just porn money or porn owners)
Creating an infrastructure that could potentially ingest terrabytes of data per second, and then processing it into multiple resolutions, is a massive ask.
Yeah, but that's a bad approach.
A website that just hosts links, a torrent to video script, and a like-button that's a magnetic link is all you need to set up a youtube competitor. The creators can host their own videos, and their fans can help them. Sure there's a lot of quality of life stuff that integrating a torrent client and browser would help with like automatically using file selection to host only the resolutions you watch up to or automatically deleting videos after a certain time unless you've extra likes them, but the underlying system is functional. For steaming, do whatever peertube is doing.
Yes, every time the topic comes up, this same idea comes up of making individuals bear the financial burden of hosting and bandwidth, without an ounce of understanding how that will never, ever, create a viable youtube alternative.
And once those problems come up, someone will have the great idea of gathering people into collectives to lower the prices and increase bargaining power.
Then after that someone will have the idea of reducing costs by moving their individual videos into the same rack, so the costs of hardware, storage, maintenance go down and stability and uptime goes up.
and before long you arrive back at a youtube like platform, and you've just become the equivalent of techbro reinventing the concept of a train for the 380th time.
Wasn't there some professor that started uploading actual educational non-porn lectures on pornhub a while back?
I think I know who you are talking about, I recall seeing something about her making more money posting on pornhub than youtube because of greater advertising sharing or something.
Afaik pornhub actually pays way more than YouTube. There are also lots of people uploading SFW content to the hub.
I mean, you could just switch to porn exclusively.
Hey, maybe that was the plan all along! I just wanted to understand how to fix my car or watch cat videos and now I'm watching a video where some lady is stuffing herself full of, well, everything.
Big porn wins again dammit!
Yeah but hosting your self isn't that big a deal depending on your host. At least until you get into the millions of views.
We're talking about youtube competition, self hosting isnt ever going to compete with youtube.
is a massive ask.
No, it's not. It's a massive request. When you punch out and leave the car lot, be sure to use regular English.
It’s a fairly common phrase. Language can change and have regional differences. This isn’t Quebec defending their weird version of French as the only “correct” way to speak.
What's "regular English"? Only words you personally know? https://www.oed.com/...
I think he just left to go work on fulu, no bad blood as far as i'm concerned. Anyways grayjay is pretty good, and when the new newpipe comes out that might be an even better choice maybe (but who knows when that'll be?? Tell me).
Is that only on android?
I just quit watching it a few months ago. No big deal, it's all crap and mindless shit anyways.
you know who else has documentaries?
PBS.
support your local public broadcasting stations, people.
I just avoid algorithms. If I want documentaries there are places for those.
Doesn't yt-dlp still work? Could go that route, then just delete the video if you don't want it afterwards
I'll get hate for referencing a solution that involves AI, but this looks promising: https://github.com/...
They were introduced as a way to crowdsource OCR
Google would give two words, one they knew and one they didn't
4chan screwed with them back in the day by all giving the same wrong answer on the second word so their OCR would scan wrong
This is a good use of AI.
Recaptcha users will experience some visitor losses.
I dont understand how and why is the phone involved in this check. I assume its a link to a website that authenticates you (probably google), but why not open it in the browser its alread at? Like what recaptcha was already doing for the past decade?
Im so confused
A few years ago I was given a technical deep dive into Akamai’s bot detection systems. One area they were quite focused on were bots impersonating mobile devices, and in particular mobile apps. It’s commonplace for attackers to try to mimic the behavior of mobile apps because it often provides more direct access to the data they’re looking for than trying to scrape websites.
To counter this threat Akamai developed a library for their customers to incorporate into their apps. This library collects a bunch of haptic data from the mobile device, such as the tilt sensors, accelerometers, finger taps/swipes on the screen, and other available data. It then encrypts it and sends it along to Akamai along with the data the app sends. Akamai then analyzes that haptic data and uses it as part of their bot detection analysis.
It is VERY difficult for a computer to mimic the truly random way a mobile device moves in space, or the way your fingers tap/swipe on a screen. If you were asked to draw a straight line from the upper left corner to the bottom right corner of your smartphone, not only would it not be perfectly straight but it would be quite fluid in its randomness. Writing a computer program to simulate that would be very tough. You’re far more likely to get lots of short straight lines with jagged angles than something that looks like a human drew it. And computer algorithms can quickly analyze this sort of data and return a confidence score indicating if it appears to have been created artificially or not.
So my guess is that when that QR code is scanned it will launch a Google app that will collect some similar haptic data and send it off to Google along with a unique id for that captcha. Google will then quickly analyze that haptic data to determine if you’re a bot or not.
I think they can use remote attestation on the mobile device to prove that it's a physical device. They do that through Google Play Services or whatever the equivalent is on iOS. So, for instance, scanning the QR code on a custom ROM like lineage or GrapheneOS doesn't work.
And also to stop you from using not-approved phones and OSes
Google's already on their phone. Consumers gladly pay for the priviledge of malware.
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Doesn't clicking on the headphones switch to an audio test like with regular captcha? That's what I do and it works first time instead of getting an endless number of images when I use VPN. The words you enter don't even have to be 100% correct.
Wow. No.
First time I saw that, I immediately suspected a malware attack.
If it's not, it soon will be.
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