Germany would rather accept weaker cloud services than depend on US providers

a day ago by Sunshine to c/buyeuropean

Germany firms prefer domestic cloud services over US providers even if performance or cost is worse
SW42 36 points a day ago

Iโ€™m also doing my best to actively steer the company I work for as far away from US Tech as possible. Out of principle at first, but it turns out itโ€™s cheaper in the long run.

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brownsugga 17 points a day ago

Fragmenting the world order and substantially weakening both the US economy and international relations is actually the entire point of the Trump presidency. If you want the plan outside of project 2025; just play his campaign promises and hear the opposite.

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Nonconfrontational -1 points 20 hours ago

If this were true he would be the single greatest figure of the last 2 centuries.

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brownsugga 1 point 5 hours ago

Not that I think Trump himself actually has anything to do with it; the man shits himself

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CapuccinoCoretto 16 points a day ago

And by Germany, we mean the world.

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john_t 6 points 21 hours ago

Someday Bruder , someday... /s

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realitaetsverlust 12 points a day ago

Meanwhile, the bavarian state government has made another 5 billion โ‚ฌ deal with microsoft for the next 5 years.

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Successful_Try543 39 points a day ago path: 0 24373164 24374737, hotness: undefined, score: 39, children: 1
realitaetsverlust 21 points a day ago

Well color me surprised

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BananaTrifleViolin 11 points 20 hours ago

They are only "weaker" because they are smaller. European cloud services can be just as capable as US ones, it just needs investment to build up the infrastructure.

Too many companies and public institutions in Europe have allowed the US monopolies to get away with their practices here. For example: letting Microsoft bundle so many products into Windows and Office 365 at a loss to build vendor lock in and stifle competition. Letting google push Chrome aggressively to users of other browsers who just want to use their search. Letting Facebook buy Instagram and not regulating the social media monopolies.

These are all choices that reflect the poor state of Europe. We've allowed US companies to come in and exploit Europe. That also continues in the EU with companies avoiding tax by basing themselves in Ireland and charging their operations in other countries franchise costs.

Europe tolerated all this because there was an idea that it was balanced out in other ways with the US, and this was what free trade is. Trump has made clear assumptions over all Europes relationship with the US is not equal, and we really need our anti-trust bodies to get back to doing what they used to do to protect European citizens.

Remember when the EU forced Microsoft to give users a choice of web browsers? More recently The EU has done some work on forcing Apple to open it's appstore / payment system to competition but it's done next to nothing about Microsoft Office 365, Microsoft Windows, Google Search, Google Chrome, or Meta & Twitter/X. I hope European politicians follow their words with actions.

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HubertManne 1 point 13 hours ago

Yeah it makes no sense to me. If you are at a scal where you have multiple locations and disaster recovery its pretty much all that is needed.

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brainwashed 9 points a day ago

I believe that they say that, I do not see them act accordingly.

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Formfiller 4 points 15 hours ago

Itโ€™s pretty clearly a national security issue. All American companies are compromised to Israel and anti democratic oligarchs

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notsosure 4 points a day ago

What is a fully US independent search engine?

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Asetru 6 points a day ago

Qwant

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Successful_Try543 4 points a day ago

Not entirely, as currently, beside results from their own index, they also add search results from Bing.

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klangcola 5 points a day ago

Qwant and Ecosiaia are currently building a joint independent index

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Successful_Try543 1 point a day ago

Yes, I know, that's why I wrote "also". I've edited my comment to make the point more clear.

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sbeak 5 points 20 hours ago

Others have stated Ecosia/Qwant building a European search index, but you also have Mwmbl with their own index that I believe is not American.

Additionally, you could also look at the various SearXNG instances hosted in Europe (or self-host your own!). They are meta search engines, meaning you can configure what sources and indexes they use for results and the ones you select are used together.

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kevinsky 3 points 20 hours ago

Everything is new at some point. They aren't weaker for long if you keep pouring enough money into it.

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BCsven 3 points a day ago

So say well all

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DmMacniel 3 points a day ago

So say we all

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john_t 2 points 21 hours ago

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