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ByteJunk 106 points 4 months ago

Goldman was beaten by progressive challenger Brad Lander in New York's 10th congressional district in a contest that laid bare the party's divisions over the Israel-Gaza war.

Lander has accused Israel of genocide in Gaza. Goldman, a two-term incumbent, was backed by pro-Israel groups.

What is going on in America? Sane politicians?? In this day and age?!

Please don't give me hope...

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join 37 points 4 months ago

can you imagine what a truly progressive president could do. actually, no need to imagine, FDR did this on a federal level and created a new deal majority in the house that lasted until Reagan. this is also why the democrats will maintain an iron hold on the primary process, they literally risk their political future with a progressive president.

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samus12345 9 points 4 months ago

can you imagine what a truly progressive president could do.

Hard to say. Evil policies are extremely easy to push through because they usually align with the interests of the billionaires who run everything.

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dreamkeeper 4 points 4 months ago

It's going to be a lot harder with the modern media landscape. We need to get the progressive president in first and then break up the big media and tech companies.

The kind of sustained majority created by FDR will never be possible as long as a handful of fascist billionaires control most of the media.

It'd probably be more helpful to look to Teddy Roosevelt, who overcame the similarly powerful robber barons to bring us labor and women's rights.

The man was an evil fucking dickhead on foreign policy but pretty bomb on domestic policy, and he was a genius campaigner who understood how to build an image and use appeals to emotion to push progressive ideas.

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luciferofastora 17 points 4 months ago

Please don't give me hope...

Defeatism is the catalyst of resignation. Resignation is the enemy of progress.

If movements get more successful the more support they have, then participating in hopes of success becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy: the more people hope, the more people stand together, the more likely it is that their hope will come true. It's worth a try, because the more people try, the better their chances.

The Civil Rights Movement was fueled by pent-up frustration, catalysed into courage by hope, guided by cunning strategists. It didn't achieve all its goals, and what it did achieve is being rolled back bit by bit, but it did achieve something. It took more than just hope, but without, it would have never taken off.

Hope is the antidote to defeatism. Allow yourself to hope, no matter how ridiculous it may look now. Better to hope and be wrong than to despair and be right.

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spectrums_coherence 4 points 4 months ago

The gilded age is passing...

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Resonosity 47 points 4 months ago

Very good news. I'd like these wins to cascade across the rest of the US, but I know that not many other places have Ranked Choice Voting (RCV) like New York.

Hopefully more Dem Socialists are elected so we install RCV and protect against future attempts by centrists and fascists at stealing power from the people.

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WanderWisley 31 points 4 months ago

I hope this is the snowball that becomes an avalanche across the country.

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sanitation 9 points 4 months ago

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fizzle 30 points 4 months ago

Im not American. Help me understand what's going on.

Primaries are a selection process to see which candidate is going to stand in the election for a given party?

Who votes in primaries?

Why does there seem to be such disparity in the views of candidates from the same party?

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applebusch 25 points 4 months ago
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prole 12 points 4 months ago

Why does there seem to be such disparity in the views of candidates from the same party?

Because we only have two viable parties

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SkunkWorkz 11 points 4 months ago

Democratic Party and Republican Party are big tent parties. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_tent

The members of each party are loosely ideological associated with each other instead of everyone closely believing in the same ideology like in a normal political party.

It’s basically the result of the first past the post voting system where the winner takes all instead of proportional representation. Like every election for every seat eventually ends up being a race between the two biggest parties. Hence why people who want to run for office join one of the two biggest parties. And why you get politicians who are opposites of each other in the same party.

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Resonosity 8 points 4 months ago

In the US, we have Primary Elections and then General Elections.

Primary Elections are intra-party. The allow multiple candidates to run against each other under each party's banner. For instance, in Illinois this year in one of the House of Representatives races, we had something like 15 Democrats running in the Primary. One 1 Democrat made it out, as well as 1 Republican who had to go up against their other Primary challengers. Voters see all those candidates on whichever ballot they registered with: Democrat or Republican.

General Elections are inter-party. They allow the chosen Primary candidates from each party to run against each other. The result of this election is the person who wins gets the position in government they were running for. In the General, candidates need to get half or more votes (>= 50%) to win. On the ballot, voters can only choose the 1 candidate from the party they registered with to vote: Democrat or Republican.

This kind of system is called First Past The Post (FPTP) and is the default voting system in the US. New York, which is where these elections were held, has a different voting system called Ranked Choice Voting (RCV). RCV allows voters to rank candidates on the ballot rather than just choosing 1. Under RCV and in my Illinois example about, I could rank someone 1st, someone else 2nd, someone else 3rd, etc. Votes are counted by everyone's 1st choice to see if there's a winner. If no one takes >= 50%, the candidate with lowest votes is dropped and those people's ballots are counted by their 2nd choice. If still no one takes >= 50%, the bottommost candidate is dropped and you start looking at those people's 2nd or 3rd choices, etc. etc. etc.

There is such disparity between candidates of the same party, Democrats in this example, because of money basically. Many people describe the Democratic party as having "establishment" or "corporate" candidates backed by billionaires and corporations on one hand, and young, new candidates backed by working class, everyday people on the other hand. Because the Democratic party still in part answers to Big Money'ed interests, you have Democrats that want to defend the rich, but at the same time you have Democratic Socialists that defend the poor and working class who want to take the reigns of the Democratic party because of our FPTP system. We basically have rich politicians defending the rich, and working class politicians defending the working class in the Democratic party, and that difference breeds hostility.

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captainlezbian 1 point 4 months ago

The problem with RCV is that it incentivizes bullet voting. STAR would be better if it didn't confuse people

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Zedd00 5 points 4 months ago

Primaries are for selecting who's going to stand in the election.

Theoretically, anyone in the party can vote in the primary (in most states) but normally, it's nerds and diehards that vote. Americans don't get time off to vote, and have been getting "your vote doesn't matter" propaganda for most of their lives.

America has a 2 party system. The far right party are the democrats, the fascist kill everyone if it makes a dollar party are the republicans. The democrat socialists of America are a center right offshoot of the democrat party that are branded by the 2 main parties as the radical left.

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Soulg 32 points 4 months ago

Calling dsa center right is a fucking insane take

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TropicalDingdong 4 points 4 months ago

I'm going to give the grace that it's a typo.

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the_wizard_of_0Z 2 points 4 months ago

penut butter jelly time

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prole 2 points 4 months ago

Welcome to Lemmy lol

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knatschus 1 point 4 months ago

What policies are they promoting that aren't well established by countries in Europe that have been ruled by conservatives for the majority of time?

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flandish 1 point 4 months ago

are they capitalists?

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mnemonicmonkeys 3 points 4 months ago

No. Social democrats like regulated capitalism. Democratic socialists want socialism.

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Zedd00 -6 points 4 months ago

They're not advocating for seizing the means of production, or putting billionaires against the wall. "Please sirs lube up before fisting my asshole" is at best center. I'd say forced profit sharing is the bare minimum to be considered center left. In most countries free Healthcare, affordable school, and unions are expectations, not looney lefty ideals.

To be clear, I'm pro DSA. They're our best option.

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chemical_cutthroat 2 points 4 months ago

You vote in the primaries of the party you are registered to vote as. If you are Republican, you vote in Republican primaries, or Democrat if you are Democrat. Think of these as the party deciding who will run in the general election later this year, where everyone will vote.

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tal 4 points 4 months ago

You vote in the primaries of the party you are registered to vote as.

Well, usually. There are some variations, like that California has open primaries.

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flandish 2 points 4 months ago

and some of us change registration on a regular basis so as to vote in a primary that needs fucking with

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CuddlyCassowary 2 points 4 months ago

As an independent in Colorado I get both ballots and can choose my own adventure.

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huey_m 2 points 4 months ago
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Leviathan 8 points 4 months ago

Turns out, if you show up to primaries you don't get total dogshit candidates

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TropicalDingdong 3 points 4 months ago

Mr. November

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tidderuuf -74 points 4 months ago

Wake me up when his endorsements win in districts he didn't sweep himself.

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snausagesinablanket 56 points 4 months ago

Please stay asleep.

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tidderuuf -7 points 4 months ago

I will just like the rest of Americans are on socialism.

And armchair political analysts can skip replying to me with their grandiose pie in the sky ideas, go preach in a cafe or bar or diner in a town with a population less than 30k.

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