Moving to Fedora? How stable is it?

4 months ago by VoxAliorum to c/linux

I am currently running Xubuntu on all my systems but there are so many things that feel rather unstable/buggy - I am sure it is not all Xubuntus/Xfce's fault, but my knowledge is limited so I just attribute it to that.

Therefore, I am currently considering switching to Fedora. I feel like it is time trying out a new desktop (KDE) and a more up to date kernel. I am not entirely sure what I am hoping from this post, but maybe a "yea, it is worth it" would ease my mind a bit.

Also, I am a bit unsure how to easily move between them (programs and data).

To name a few of the bugs I encountered in the past:

  • When connecting screens, quite often the created profile is ignored, screens get disabled, overlapped, ... By applying the profile multiple times eventually you can overcome this issue
  • Dell specific: Webcam does not work, system sometimes freezes after closing the laptop lid even if sleep mode is deactivated
  • Certain shortcuts are bugged (WIN+Left works, WIN+Right doesn't. When you reset WIN+Right, it works until the next restart)
atzanteol 14 points 4 months ago

If you just want to switch to kde you can install it on your current system:

apt install kde-full

Or

apt install kde-standard

No need to reinstall an entirely new distro.

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OhmeHose 5 points 4 months ago

This is the answer op should be looking for.

There's nothing wrong with Ubuntu/Kubuntu. KDE with Ubuntu (Kubuntu) solved a lot of multiscreen issues I had with gnome. The customisation options with KDE are basically limitless.

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atzanteol 5 points 4 months ago

I feel like a lot of people underestimate how easy it is to install multiple DEs and switch between them.

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lukalix98 13 points 4 months ago

I don't know, but I can tell you that I use Bluefin - Fedora Silverblue. I have it for 7 months now and had 0 stability issues.

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Kongar 10 points 4 months ago

I’ve tried most distros over the years. I liked arch with gnome, but maintaining it was a bit of work. And then I realized that when I was done setting it up the way I liked it, I was essentially just building fedora workstation. So I switched a few versions ago and I haven’t looked back.

Fedora is boring, like sometimes too boring. But then I remember that’s what an os is supposed to be. I now run it on all my PCs and it’s what I install on family members PCs. (Yup it’s even done well with windows converts who don’t know anything about linux - their transition has been easy)

Issues I have encountered:

  1. Rpmfusion is a must, otherwise the distro doesn’t handle much. It’s also the best way to nvidia.
  2. i still run into the odd codec thing even with rpm fusion-I just use VLC and it works fine
  3. it took me a while to figure out that the fedora based flatpaks are not always the same as the flathub versions. For example, back to point 2, the fedora flatpak of VLC is missing codecs while the flathub version works with everything.
  4. i don’t like how flatpaks update automatically. I’m sure I can stop that behavior but I haven’t bothered to look into it yet. It manifests itself with steam. The flatpak updates but the main system has not. Steam then has driver differences which leads to processing more shaders and sometimes outright conflicts and my games default to the integrated gpu. This is always fixed by simply updating the system, it’s never a real issue. But sometimes I don’t want to update, I just want to game.
  5. it’s got some funny ways of doing things. Always worth googling before you do something. For example, the way you update grub, there’s a special fedora way to do that. They push Podman instead of docker and despite what they say, it doesn’t always build cleanly - just use docker. That kind of stuff.

What I like about fedora

  1. It’s boring and “just works” not even mint “just worked” as good for me
  2. the upgrades between versions are boring and non events. It works if you go into detail cleaning up old things from the command line, it works if you just click the “upgrade” button in the gui.
  3. its not bleeding edge but still pretty new. I’ve thrown some brand new hardware at it and it was supported, whereas all other distros failed except arch
  4. It’s cake to maintain. Updates don’t require the attention arch does, and honestly I’ve had more issues with Ubuntu updates. It sets up btrfs by default - some may see that as a detriment - but it sets you up nice for snapshots and whatnot right out of the box.

I say give workstation a shot and give it a little time to get used to things. Definitely do rpmfusion. It’s the one time I’d recommend just jamming commands into the terminal exactly like the website says without thinking. (You still have to read the website for the right commands). Good luck!

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VoxAliorum 4 points 4 months ago

Thanks! rpmfusion sounds super helpful:

RPM Fusion is a repository of add-on packages for Fedora and EL+EPEL maintained by a group of volunteers. It distributes packages that have been deemed unacceptable to Fedora for various reasons, such as patented codecs, nonfree drivers, or tainted software.

I will definitely take a look at it. Knowing about a few oddities definitely helps, too.

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TerHu 2 points 4 months ago

This comment very much resonates with me. been distro hopping for a while, with ubuntu, arch, debian, and nix. fedora has been very awesomely boring, with the caveats mentioned above.

codecs were confusing at first, just like flatpaks.

in just one way my personal preferences differ here. i love using podman and always try using that first, and only then switch to docker if necessary. i also use fedora on my work laptop, and was surprised how many more steps it took for my colleagues to get podman running well. (still more enjoyable than docker imo)

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sonalder 8 points 4 months ago

Fedora is known to be a good middle ground, and that's why Linus Torvalds is running it on its work machine. But Fedora is more GNOME focus, while it does not stop you from using KDE, if you're on Xubuntu you might want to consider Kubuntu.

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ibot 3 points 4 months ago

There is an official Fedora KDE edition for more than one year now.

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Cris_Citrus 5 points 4 months ago

Folks may not like me saying this but some of this may be pretty common across linux distros, at least in my experience, though much of this feels like it may be desktop environment specific. May also be impacted by your specific hardware setup. It feels like technical folks kinda just don't notice small polish issues or jank at times 😅

Your best bet would be to throw fedora or other options on a flash drive and try them out. You should be able to see if many/all of these issues exist on another distro/desktop without installing :)

Best of luck, I hope you find an option thats more suitable to you :)

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VoxAliorum 2 points 4 months ago

Cheers! I agree that stuff like the webcam is likely a dell Linux issue with little impact from xfce. Remains to be seen. Trying a boot usb first makes a lot of sense.

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Cris_Citrus 2 points 4 months ago

Its a eternally handy thing to be able to do with linux

Hope you have a lovely day ☺️

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Admetus 5 points 4 months ago

I use gnome on my laptop and stuff like scaling worked on several projectors in the school. Webcam (Lenovo) works, I think I recall it didn't work on another distro.

KDE no problem on desktop with monitor and projector plugged in. Panels etc customisable on both screens (I also make it look like gnome ha).

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Artemis 5 points 4 months ago

I've been using Fedora (gnome) as my main distro for over 5 years and have zero issues with stability. Webcam, etc., all work by default with no problems. Would definitely recommend!

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mortalic 4 points 4 months ago

I've moved the whole house to Fedora KDE. Every laptop. The only things not running it, Steamdeck and Unraid server.

I wrote a script for first installs, its mostly to make my life easier, but you might like it too. I wrote it for Fedora 42, and updated it for 43, but it should run fine on 44 as well.

Just take a minute to esit then parameters at the top. https://github.com/mortalic/firstrun

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Farnsworth 3 points 4 months ago path: 0 24417203 24418989, hotness: undefined, score: 3, children: 1
mortalic 2 points 4 months ago

Lol love it. It's a script sharing thread, if we all share our scripts. 🤘🔥😄

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VoxAliorum 2 points 4 months ago

Sounds very interesting. I took a quick look and might run it, too.

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mortalic 1 point 4 months ago

Nice, if there is anything you run into that doesn't work feel free to let me know. I do accept pull requests too.

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wakko 4 points 4 months ago

I've been running Fedora steadily since Fedora Core. I've used just about every version of Red Hat's distro since RHL5. I've used a whole lot of other distros, too.

Fedora is the upstream of CentOS and RHEL. Anything targeting RHEL will first show up in Fedora. Fedora has a long history of pioneering new technologies. The release cadence is twice a year, versions are supported for 1 year from release (2 subsequent release cycles).

Your programs and data will move just fine between different Linux distributions. You've got nothing to worry about there.

Display issues are generally a WM/Compositor/Driver problem. If the bugs aren't in the drivers or in Wayland itself, then you might see differences in e.g. Gnome-Shell versus KDE. This isn't likely to be a distro-specific issue, though. It is possible that some of the distro-level patch work may have fixed the bug.

Keyboard shortcuts are fully configurable. Not a distro-specific thing, but each distro does it a little differently depending on which software they're using. You can make any key combination do anything you want. But persisting changes may not always happen depending on how you're setting it.

Most of what you're talking about just requires a little deeper know-how than you've currently got. One detail that you'll need to understand before anything else - The differences between Xubuntu and Fedora are a whole lot smaller than the differences between Mac and Windows or either of those and Linux. Yes, each distro is opinionated about how it's out-of-the-box configs are set. But, they're running more of the same software than not. So, now it's just time for you to learn how the sausage is made. Hit the man pages and start learning how to solve some of these problems. :)

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corsicanguppy 2 points 4 months ago

That's a very excellent response. Greetings, fellow greybeard. I miss apt-rpm.

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Yeahboy92 4 points 4 months ago

I've been using Fedora for years across several devices. I've only seen my device compatibility improve over the last few releases. For example, my HP Victus laptop's camera would work but not the mic, this has been fixed. My desktop runs several monitors with no issues and keyboard shortcuts have never done anything goofy. It is my preferred distro so I am biased but I've used a lot of others and I think Fedora is one of the more consistently good distros.

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frosty 4 points 4 months ago

I've been running Fedora for about six months now and haven't run into an issue where the system failed or refused to boot. However, I have a single screen and no web cam, and only use it for web browsing and mild app development and deployment. On the Fedora side, do expect that you will see regular package updates as Fedora likes to move fast. (It's already on the new KDE 6.7.)

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bad1080 4 points 4 months ago

i found fedora hard to work with because of its hard "no non-open source" stand. e.g. i had trouble playing a x265 HEVC file with vlc where as i never encountered anything like that on any other distro and solving this was not trivial.
i am on kubuntu rn but if i were to switch i'd go back to cachyos with KDE.

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frosty 10 points 4 months ago

RPM Fusion exists to address some of these points. It's a set of RPM repos based in Europe that provide software that the Fedora Project itself will not.

https://rpmfusion.org/

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bad1080 6 points 4 months ago

if you are aware of it and its solutions it surely is a non-issue but for me as a linux noob it was reason enough against fedora. getting into linux is already complicated enough without extra obstacles.

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irate944 4 points 4 months ago

you're right, it was also one of the reasons I avoided fedora originally. Company of Heroes for example would work OOTB in any other distro, but on fedora it would crash as soon the game opened - unless I skipped the intro movies with the steam command. My guess it was the codecs, even though I supposedly had installed them.

But just you know, if someday you give it another shot, you can use this link: https://nattdf.streamlit.app/

It's basically a script builder that helps you get fedora up and running with everything you want. Codecs was never an issue since I used it

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ProdigalFrog 3 points 4 months ago

Saving that link, looks super handy. Thanks for sharing it!

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deadcream 3 points 4 months ago

It's not about proprietary stuff, it's about US software patents. The codecs are open source, but you can't use them under US law because of patents. Fedora cares about that because they are closely tied to Red Hat which is an American company. Community distros without any corporate affiliation like Arch or Debian generally don't give a shit since there is no commercial entity to sue. IDK how Canonical circumvents that though.

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Ghoelian 2 points 4 months ago

Once you find rpmfusion, working with non-open-source packages becomes a lot easier. It includes libraries for x265 HEVC for example, and they have tutorials that are usually pretty helpful.

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galaxy_nova 3 points 4 months ago

If you want stable and can deal with the downsides honestly I suggest immutable distros. Otherwise Fedora is pretty reasonably stable for a pretty up to date distro and also has decent community support which is underrated. If your drive(s) are setup for it it’s pretty easy to distro hop anyways so it’s worth a shot

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Kirk 3 points 4 months ago

Fedora has two immutable distros KDE (Kinoite) and GNOME (Silverblue) and both are excellent and very stable.

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VoxAliorum 1 point 4 months ago

What do you mean by

If your drive(s) are setup for it it’s pretty easy to distro hop anyways so it’s worth a shot

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Kongar 3 points 4 months ago

I think he means if you’ve set up your partitions where only the core OS is on root, it’s easier to distro hop and point your new os to your home folder. There are partition strategies that make distro hopping easy.

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galaxy_nova 2 points 4 months ago

Yep precisely this

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VoxAliorum 1 point 4 months ago

I see. Did stuff like that in the past but always reserved too much or too little for primary and regretted it afterwards.

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Moodel 3 points 4 months ago

If your data is all backed up then what have you to lose?.

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VoxAliorum 5 points 4 months ago

Time and peace of mind. Which are rare resources these days

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Moodel 3 points 4 months ago

Fedora has been around for decades dude. It's a rock solid platform

The only issue you may encounter is potential incompatibility with your H/w. But it's pretty rare TBH as long as you're not running some cutting edge H/w.

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lemonhead2 3 points 4 months ago

it's a lot of work to switch distributions, and I don't recommend unless you have a really good reason!

kde is supported on Ubuntu... id suggest installing it and trying it out first. the bugs u state sound like desktop environment issues and not distribution bugs ...

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mexicancartel 3 points 4 months ago

I mean it is very stable in my experience and also you get updates within weeks of upstream release gor many programs (like KDE itself)

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magikmw 3 points 4 months ago

Been running Fedora with KDE Plasma as a daily system for 9 years now. It's more stable the longer I use it, but I still keep using a version until a week before end of life. I just don't want to deal with quirks I have no patience for these days, and rarely I need the newest version of what's in repos, it's usually pretty new anyway with two releases a year.

Keep in mind if you are using a lot of normie applications (or maybe stuff for work), it may only be officially supported on ubuntu and Fedora may be a bit of work to get going. But there's tools to turn debs into rpms and such. I don't miss ubuntu at all.

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c64z86 3 points 4 months ago

Try it and see how it works for you. There’s really no telling what it will be like because each system is different and will respond to the different distros of Linux and their kernel versions in different ways. For a time Fedora worked better on my laptop but Kubuntu caught up and hardware support was improved in their newest kernel so now I’m back on that xD

But yeah, for my 2025 laptop Fedora was extremely stable and I never ran into a problem. I just missed the big repos of the Debian/Ubuntu family.

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warmaster 3 points 4 months ago

All I have are Fedora based machines running Bazzite & Aurora. That's been the case since the distros were originally released about 2+ years or so. Same install. No issues ever. A whole family of 4 running perfectly working Fedora based PCs with no issues and no maintenance whatsoever. I don't do crap and they just keep working perfectly. No complaints, all praise. My family doesn't even know it's not butter Windows, I mean I told them, they just don't care... it works and it gets the job done.

If that's not stable, then I don't know the meaning of the word.

/home should have all your stuff, just copy that to the new installation and you're set.

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ISolox 3 points 4 months ago

I've been using Fedora KDE since V40.

I have had some weird issues in the past where a network adapter randomly won't work on startup a few years back, but haven't had issues since.

Also back when I had a Nvidia GPU, I remember it having issues updating drivers due to not waiting long enough before restarting even though it said update complete and causing the driver the not work properly.

Those are really the only issues I've had with it, mostly just works for me personally.

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VoxAliorum 3 points 4 months ago

Thanks for sharing your experience!

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corsicanguppy 2 points 4 months ago

I don't use laptops.

I have some dell optiplex and poweredge in the home-lab.

These machines are ported through a KVM, and I'm using a desktop on proxmox where the GPU, mouse, keyboard, sound and cam are ported into the fedora VM via proxmox from there the KVM connects.

I play WoW and zero-k, but the voice chat isn't working in WoW.

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b161 2 points 4 months ago

Fedora Gnome and Nobara KDE have been pretty solid for me. Most resume from sleep bugs feel like they’ve been worked out. You may still have problems trying to get your Dell laptop webcam working though.

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neeeil 1 point 4 months ago

I have been using Nobara KDE for about a year now and it has been an extremely smooth ride. But, I still have that resume from sleep bug and it's extremely frustrating. I have to keep my machine on with the screen off because of this bug. Apart from this, it has been a very smooth ride.

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b161 1 point 4 months ago

Mine works fine. But it did fuck up after I’d been messing around with some graphics card settings (trying to get davinci resolve to play nice). You could try troubleshooting with an LLM and see if you have any luck.

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muusemuuse 2 points 4 months ago

Fedora is solid. It’s as close to Debian as a fast update track distro can be in terms of stability.

It’s also obnoxious. Between SElinux, updates typically requiring reboots, cockpit being a sloppy feature incomplete mess, and things just taking longer to do on fedora than anything other distro, you might want to think twice.

It’s not bad, it just makes certain trades not everyone is happy with. It feels windowsy. You use fedora because there’s a reason you are using fedora. It’s not a default distro.

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rhubarbe 2 points 4 months ago

You're looking for stability and KDE Plasma. Fedora doesn't seem to be the right candidate.
Arch Linux (or Endeavour / Manjaro), or OpenSUSE are better candidate.

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EchoDelta_9 2 points 4 months ago
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rhubarbe 2 points 4 months ago

My experience with fedora was the opposite of robust. I've tried multiple times over the last decades, my last experience is fairly recent (a couple of years ago) but always disappointing: hardware issues, minor but annoying bugs, etc.

And KDE Plasma has always been neglected by the core team. So clearly not the right distribution for OP.

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EchoDelta_9 2 points 4 months ago
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rhubarbe 1 point 4 months ago

Thanks for the additional context. I may have misunderstood the announcement 5 years ago as I remember reacting very negatively to that news. Are they still defaulting to flatpak for new apps?

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irate944 2 points 4 months ago

I've been using Fedora in my gaming desktop with a nvidia GPU - which not that long ago, would be a recipe for a disaster since nvidia + wayland = problems. But so far, the experience has been very stable, despite me being an update addict that updates the OS almost daily.

From my experience, it's been more stable than EndeavourOS (which is basically Arch), Ubuntu and Mint. YMMV and all that. Edit: I've been using it for 5-6 months now

PS: you will want to give this a go, if you go Fedora: https://nattdf.streamlit.app/

It's a tool created to get your Fedora up and running in one go. You can use it to configure flathub, install codecs, etc.

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VoxAliorum 2 points 4 months ago

App sounds interesting! Will take a look!

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jaypatelani 2 points 4 months ago

You want slow updates/upgrades like Ubuntu and stability then OpenSUSE slowroll is better option or even OpenSUSE kalpa. Even Debian + KDE will work for you.

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ProdigalFrog 3 points 4 months ago

Only downside is Debian 13 will likely forever be stuck with KDE 6.3.6, which has some noticeable bugs on my hardware that won't be fixed until Debian 14.

KDE really benefits from distros that keep it more up to date, to the point where even the KDE devs suggest avoiding KDE on Debian.

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vandsjov 2 points 4 months ago

He even hints to it being the case for any LTS distribution. This could be problematic for companies that might want to use LTS for their machines.

Btw I use KDE on Debian Stable

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ProdigalFrog 2 points 4 months ago

I thought perhaps Ubuntu's LTS point releases might update it, but after checking, it appears they do not. Kubuntu seems to suggest that they use PPA's for users who want a newer KDE on an LTS, though I'm unsure how stable that method would be in practice.

Overall it does seem that LTS distros tend not to bother updating KDE, unlike Gnome (which Ubuntu does seem to update in their point releases).

Some KDE devs have spoken about someday making LTS versions of KDE that line-up with major LTS distros release schedules (KDE once had an LTS release but dropped it since none of the distros used it for it being out of sync with their schedules, IIRC), but I haven't heard any news on that front.

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jaypatelani 1 point 4 months ago

That's why also mentioned OpenSUSE slowroll which brings latest and lesser update frequency

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ProdigalFrog 1 point 4 months ago

I'm personally a bit hesitant to recommend Slowroll (despite really liking the idea of it), since it's still considered experimental by openSUSE, and I personally had some issues with it borking the Nvidia driver from an update.

OpenSUSE also comes with some... odd design choices, like the package patterns that can trip people up when they uninstall things, and the lack of a GUI updater for tumbleweed/slowroll (unless that's changed?).

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jaypatelani 1 point 4 months ago

It updates via discover or gnome's software manager

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SatyrSack 2 points 4 months ago

I am not entirely sure what I am hoping from this post, but maybe a "yea, it is worth it" would ease my mind a bit.

If that is all you need, I'll throw you a "yea, it is worth it". I have been running Fedora with KDE Plasma as my main personal desktop on multiple machines for five years or so. Mainly desktop/laptop, but I even used it pretty regularly on a tablet for a while (I stopped simply because I stopped using the device altogether due to preferring having the full keyboard of a laptop) and even use it on my HTPC. There may be a better HTPC OS, but I am just so used to it everywhere else that it seemed simple enough to get going and I just stuck with it.

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c64z86 1 point 4 months ago
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chronicledmonocle 1 point 4 months ago

I moved from Linux Mint to Fedora KDE about a year ago. Haven't had a single complaint on either my laptop or desktop.

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pixeldaemon 1 point 4 months ago

Fedora is pretty stable itself, but I have experienced some problems with KDE, for instance dolphin crashing on opening a directory attached by KDE Connect. Keyboard shortcuts seem to work just fine, but they may be not configured the way you expect, so consider tweaking them in the settings, no difficulties here.

Also, keep in mind KDE is quite a heavy environment, it may feel slow after Xfce, even on a middle-end system. Personally, I would probably choose GNOME if I returned to the past moment of installing Fedora.

Fedora is based on Red Hat, you'll need time to get used to some minor differencies in contrast to Ubuntu, especially commands' syntax. You'll have to reinstall all needed programs, relogin your accounts and so on. I think you will generally be able to copy and paste some configs, but they may need a bit of adjustment.

While it is quite stable, Fedora still recieves updates really frequently, you should ask yourself if you really want to update every week or two.

If you use Xfce with X11, be ready to face Wayland's specifics with screen recording and working with monitors.

My conclusion: KDE is probably not an optimal choice, but switching to Fedora is worth it, if you are ready to spend a day or two getting known with it's specifics.

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Coleslaw4145 1 point 4 months ago

Also, keep in mind KDE is quite a heavy environment

Isnt this only true of older versions of KDE?

I use KDE on a really slow Microsoft Surface Go (Gen 1) and it's still snappy.

Its also a LOT lighter than GNOME.

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pixeldaemon 1 point 4 months ago

Not sure about GNOME but I can't call KDE snappy on my setup

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peskypry 1 point 4 months ago

Fedora is very stable until a kernel update breaks a hardware function.

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placebo 0 points 4 months ago
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