Why they simp so hard for Russia's imperialist war, I'll never know

2 days ago by Godric to c/politicalmemes

huppakee 88 points 2 days ago

Fyi, Ukraine is trying diplomacy. They've succesfully (and rightfully) got Europe to support them. Not enough to get Russia out of Ukraine, but still.

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A404 55 points 2 days ago

Russia isn't even claiming to be socialist

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Eldritch 57 points 2 days ago

They don't have to. It isn't about socialism or being socialist. It's about being anti-west. All else is optional to them.

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ZILtoid1991 5 points 2 days ago

Campism was a fucking mistake.

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pilferjinx 10 points 2 days ago

Western hegemony is brutal if you're not part of the club. I wish there was a real path to breaking it up without replacing it with more of the same imperial shit.

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Tollana1234567 13 points 2 days ago

they are the most right wing country out there comparetively.

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Cosmonaut 1 point an hour ago

there is no country more right wing than

  1. Israel

  2. America

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rustyfish 1 point 2 days ago

No, but their fangirls think russia invading Ukraine is a “power move for socialism”. Never gonna forget that nugget.

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SkyezOpen 8 points 2 days ago

It's only imperialism when it comes from the imperial region of the USA. Otherwise it's a sparkling revolution.

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hunnybubny 1 point 2 days ago

Unless it is sponsored by CIA, then again Imperialism TM

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Diplomjodler3 36 points 2 days ago

They like Putin for the same reason the MAGAts like Trump.

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Canconda 28 points 2 days ago

Brain damage

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ShutUpWesley 14 points 2 days ago

Fetterman is proof that Trump's best strategy would be to ban helmets.

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Canconda 9 points 2 days ago

Ban abortion and give expectant mothers free cigarettes. Already halfway there.

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OwOarchist 5 points 2 days ago

Remove the restrictions against lead paint and leaded gasoline.

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AzuranAurora 4 points 2 days ago

It's not like people wear them anyway, even when riding on fast e-bikes and scooters. Out of the many I see every day, maybe 20% of the riders I see actually wear a helmet. They think they're invincible until they have a serious accident. No grey matter to protect inside those skulls.

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yoriaiko 22 points 2 days ago

What do You want to know, they are paid trolls from moscow spreading propaganda.

The diplomacy for russia means surrender at least part of Ukraine, if not whole. Only rus wants to talk about that.

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spacegoat 20 points 2 days ago

Funny that Russians and Republicans are indistinguishable now

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BlackLaZoR 2 points 2 days ago

I thought they were Nazis?

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zilouge 11 points 2 days ago

Yes

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BlackLaZoR 1 point 2 days ago

Who? Russians?

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T00l_shed 0 points 2 days ago

They certainly are fascist

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raptore39 8 points 2 days ago

A lot of bots that string actual humans along

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ZombiFrancis 6 points 2 days ago

The power broker that's missing from the equation is the United States.

We're willing to milk war to maximize business interests and returns, and this is no exception. Decisive victories and diplomacy alike run counter to that goal.

Currently getting trounced by Iran however is suggesting there is little actual power to broker anymore, outside of classic nuclear holocaust.

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Lushed_Lungfish 3 points 2 days ago

They are using the Russian version of diplomacy. Gotta speak the lingo.

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Etterra 2 points a day ago

Because they're pussies who like to think that backing the stronger side makes them look/feel strong/right.

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Abyssian 1 point a day ago

This smacks of ableism. It's not these peoples fault they were born with a severe developmental disability.

Don't make fun of them, just celebrate their trying by saying something like "Oh, wow, Billy! I can't believe you learned so much about politics! You are very smart! Would you like a cookie?"

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FisicoDelirante 1 point 2 days ago

I swear every time I hear the argument it's from a right winger with no thinking ability whatsoever.

It always goes like this.

Them: violence is wrong! It's never the answer. Me: so what about Ukraine? Should they simply let Russia take whatever? Them: They should sort it out diplomatically, of course.

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mirshafie 1 point 2 days ago

I mean at this point the only viable solution is diplomacy. Europe didn't do enough to prevent the war, and then didn't do enough to punish Russia in the early stages of the war (no air support, slow deliveries). The frontlines haven't been moving meaningfully for years.

So, at this point we either send soldiers to retake territory occupied by Russia, or we help negotiate a settlement. There's absolutely no appetite for sending European soldiers.

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Cosmonaut 0 points an hour ago

to liberals supporting the meat grinder machine of this war:

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Godric 1 point an hour ago

Smaller Country: "I want to choose my own path forward for the future"

Big Country #1: "I own you. I will murder the shit out of you if you ever think about leaving me"

Big country #2: "I will send help to Smaller Country to stop Big Country #1"

Communist Rube #37245: "I cannot tell the difference!"

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redparadise -17 points 2 days ago

False equivalence, saying this needs to be resolved diplomatically as soon as possible in order to avoid Ukraine losing even more negotiating power, inevitable economic and population collapse and fall into more Western debt for for the Russia-NATO proxy war does not support the Russian invasion and is objectively better for the average Ukrainian cause yes, war is terrible, Ukraine is caught in the cross fire of an inter-imperialist war, many socialists rightfully dismiss it to avoid taking the side of and escalate either NATO or Russia but of the average Ukrainian worker.

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Reginald_T_Biter 14 points 2 days ago

Lol, just lol. Ukraine arent "caught in the crossfire" they are the ones under attack. You betray your intent.

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redparadise -7 points 2 days ago

Yes, Ukranian soldiers are the meatgrinder for NATO to harm Russia in a forever war, you got my point!

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Reginald_T_Biter 4 points 2 days ago

Does that argumentative technique work for you usually?

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gmtom 10 points 2 days ago

Resolved by diplomacy is just a thin veil on Ukraine needs to capitulate and give Russia whatever it wants.

This isn't Ukraine being caught in an inter imperial crossfire, they are being directly invaded.

Like imagine if someone made this same point about one of dozens of countries the US invaded. Like saying the Vietnamese should have just immediately surrendered to the US, or saying Iran should have just surrendered and given them whatever they want. You'd be out here calling the person a boot licker and rightly so.

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ZILtoid1991 8 points 2 days ago

It's hard to do diplomacy when your opponent doesn't even believe your country is real...

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foggianism -27 points 2 days ago

I'm sure if there were mass graves caused by Russia it would be on all the news cycles. Israeli mass graves in Gaza, on the other hand, are glossed over and never talked about again.

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zilouge 17 points 2 days ago

Instantantly grabbing for the whataboutism..

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foggianism -15 points 2 days ago

Just holding up a mirror to your face.

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Hansae 13 points 2 days ago path: 0 25354401 25354705, hotness: undefined, score: 13, children: 4
foggianism -5 points 2 days ago path: 0 25354401 25354705 25355290, hotness: undefined, score: -5, children: 3
SkyezOpen 9 points 2 days ago

Literally what is your point. We condemn mass graves in general.

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Hansae 5 points 2 days ago

Never said the genocide in Gaza wasnt happening, it is but so is the attempted genocide of Ukrainians.

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T00l_shed -1 points 2 days ago

Yes that is also horrible. No one is saying otherwise.. what is your point??

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tazeycrazy 9 points 2 days ago

Russia has a long history of mass casualties and no mention in western media. The only change now is satellites and the internet. It's hard to hide a mass grave from space.

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SkyezOpen 6 points 2 days ago path: 0 25354401 25356847, hotness: undefined, score: 6, children: 0
Ferrous -50 points 2 days ago

Some 65% of Ukrainians favor a negotiated end to the war as soon as possible.

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surge_1 58 points 2 days ago

Except that 65% number drastically shrinks if the terms are unfavorable to Ukraine (ceding territory, no international guarantees, etc.)

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Mulligrubs 26 points 2 days ago

They had international guarantees already after they got rid of nukes.

We just broke the guarantees. Worthless.

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abrasiveteapot 16 points 2 days ago

Only Russia broke that agreement. The US & UK have upheld their end.

Hint, do you actually know what's in it ? I suspect not

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ZILtoid1991 0 points 2 days ago

If the US and UK upheld their end, the Kremlin would have been bombed back to the stone age. But war in unpopular in the west, thanks to all the meaningless wars the US got into.

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Aqarius 2 points 2 days ago

...Wait, then what the hell do the other 35% favor?

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deegeese 25 points 2 days ago

How is it possible to negotiate with Russia if they have broken all their past promises to Ukraine?

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hitwright 23 points 2 days ago

The number is meaningless, unless you also provide what kind of end you're talking about

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Ferrous -29 points 2 days ago path: 0 25348211 25348341 25348459, hotness: undefined, score: -29, children: 2
ayyy 10 points 2 days ago

Next time read the article before you link to it. You’re looking so foolish right now.

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SpookyBogMonster 4 points 2 days ago

From the article, since no one is willing to actually quote it:

More than three years into the war, Ukrainians’ support for continuing to fight until victory has hit a new low. In Gallup’s most recent poll of Ukraine — conducted in early July — 69% say they favor a negotiated end to the war as soon as possible, compared with 24% who support continuing to fight until victory.

This marks a nearly complete reversal from public opinion in 2022, when 73% favored Ukraine fighting until victory and 22% preferred that Ukraine seek a negotiated end as soon as possible.

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yakko 11 points 2 days ago

The key word being "possible". It takes two to tango

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ayyy 4 points 2 days ago

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

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