Just to be safe, throw out the welcome mat, and replace it with a "Do you have a warrant?" mat.
Does a 'Welcome' mat give vampires permission to enter your house?
9 hours ago by SatansMaggotyCumFart to c/showerthoughts
AbouBenAdhem 34 points 9 hours ago
If vampires gets warrants, do they still need to ask permission?
ThePowerOfGeek 9 points 9 hours ago
It's fine. The mat was made by Flock. /s
Khanzarate 7 points 7 hours ago
Depends how they can interact with local laws.
It's reasonable to conclude a temporary owner could invite someone in, just like a real one. If a warrant involved temporary possession, then the government that issued it would be able to invite someone in, and then if the vampire were charged with a search, that charge would be an invitation.
Based on wording on example warrants in the US, however, they do not word it as a seizure of the building, even temporary. Makes sense, but at least a US-based vampire with a warrant would need to still be invited in.
greatwhitebuffalo41 2 points 2 hours ago
I want one of these now...
snooggums 22 points 8 hours ago
A welcome door mat means the person is welcome to announce themselves by knocking or ringing a bell, it does not mean they are welcome to enter.
If the mat said 'Come on in' then it would give anyone, including a vampire, permission to enter.
TallonMetroid 18 points 9 hours ago
According to Buffy the Vampire Slayer, the answer is yes.
korthrun 9 points 5 hours ago
This is/was "hotly debated". IMO public schools are like any other public thing and accessible to vamps generally, and Angel was just being sassy when Jenny asked him how he got in.
But along those lines, my initial response was "Depends on who's writing" with the Angel/Jenny school scene in mind. "Enter all who seek knowledge" or whatever.
Overall they were not very consistent when it came to the invitation thing.
Proprietary_Blend 3 points 8 hours ago
That sounds like something a vampire hunter would say
sunsofold 11 points 8 hours ago
The trick is, it depends. All vampires are bound by obsessive compulsive behaviours, but the particular form that obsessive behaviour takes depends on a number of factors. The most prominent are age and culture of origin.
More recently embraced American vampires tend to become absorbed in the minutiae of the contractual, legalistic formulation of things, so if they have an aversion to entering without permission, it is more based upon an obsession with the sanctity of individualized private property. This leads to the trait of rarely making a direct entry into a home for predatory purposes but rather a focus on convincing the victim it is in their best interest to give willingly their vital fluids and life force. Many victims of such vampires are not even fully aware of what they have had taken.
Older vampires from a more European context take a more hierarchical approach to property. If your home is in their territory, you are their subject and, as such, no permission is needed to enter what is effectively their house, perhaps literally if they are your landlord.
Other contexts, such as that of the Middle East of antiquity, produce vampires who hold sacred the unwritten yet iron clad laws of hospitality. They would never dream of entering unannounced, or taking more than a token sip from one who invites them willingly into their home, but equally would feel no compunction over slaughtering one who turned them away. To these, a welcome mat is an amusement, not an invitation, and only the most desperate leach would stoop to taking a whimsical decoration as written law.
But then again, vampires are an imaginary metaphorical construct for describing the greedy people of a society, so really the answer is no.
toynbee 1 point 23 minutes ago
I used to have one that said "Hi, I'm Mat" because I found it hilarious.
We throw a party for my kid's birthday every year. My wife keeps taping signs to the front door for the party; they always say "come on in, the party's in the back!" I keep telling her that someday a vampire is going to take advantage of that, but she seems unconcerned.
Vandals_handle 6 points 9 hours ago
I'd expect yours to say "Well Cum" or some such
DarrinBrunner 6 points 8 hours ago
Only if the hemogoblin can read it. Just because they may have been around for centuries doesn't mean they've bothered to learn every language.
SatansMaggotyCumFart 8 points 8 hours ago
Slurs like that make you sound like a hemophobe.
pelespirit 5 points 9 hours ago
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dream_weasel 5 points 5 hours ago
Welcome is present day "well met" or something more like "I'm happy you're here" not "please come in my house".
So no, I think you can keep your mat; most vampires are probably old enough to take the original meaning anyway.
toomanypancakes 5 points 8 hours ago
That's why I have one, but I'm still waiting on my dracula daddy to arrive
stopforgettingit 5 points 7 hours ago
A no soliciting sign doesn't stop solicitors, so I don't see why a welcome mat should have any more power.
jake_jake_jake_ 3 points 7 hours ago
Depending on the jurisdiction, soliciting often requires a permit and conditions of the permit include obeying no soliciting signs. Failure to obey typically means the permit can be revoked, or it could be a criminal offense. Could be worth looking into that for your area.
lonefighter 4 points 6 hours ago
The apartment complex where I live is posted no soliciting. Management heavily encourages people to call the police if solicitors ignore the sign. Even more shocking, the police will actually come and throw solicitors off the property if they're contacted. (This is also the same police department that tracked down and got an arrest warrant for the random stranger who broke into my car the day after it happened)
stopforgettingit 2 points 7 hours ago
Thank you friend for that tip, I am going to look in to this.
GreenKnight23 3 points 7 hours ago
you're welcome to stand on my mat as long as you want blood sucker, but you'll never come inside my house.
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