We ignored the signs.

2 months ago by #Km91# to c/programmer_humor

Multiplexer 61 points 2 months ago

I always thought more that it sounded musical somehow.

But then again, I am a huge fan of things like Progressive Industrial Death Metal, so maybe this doesn't amount for much...

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FuglyDuck 31 points 2 months ago

Please tell me I’m not the only 90’s kid that air guitars to the 52k dialup.

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affenlehrer 17 points 2 months ago

52k modems where cool but fax machines.... fuck fax machines. If you ever dialed one by accident you know what I mean.

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FuglyDuck 10 points 2 months ago

Does anyone still use fax machines?

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affenlehrer 13 points 2 months ago

I'm from Germany. German bureaucrats love fax machines

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BartyDeCanter 7 points 2 months ago

Lawyers, courts, and insurance companies still do for various legal reasons. It’s deeply irritating.

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ShellMonkey 7 points 2 months ago

I see them in medical environments sometimes. Occasionally simpler than finding some compatible network method that complies with all the privacy requirements to just send screaming screeches direct point to point.

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TwilightKiddy 3 points 2 months ago

The Japanese: こんにちは!

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bedwyr 2 points 2 months ago

State government agencies often still use faxes.

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Multiplexer 6 points 2 months ago

Or worse, get dialed up yourself by a faxmachine with a wrong number in its memory.
It will try. And try. And try.
And at some point, you will just shut down your phone and hope it is over soon when the remote side finally cancels the unsuccessful sending operation.

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Multiplexer 5 points 2 months ago

Serious headbanging instead on my side!

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fartographer 1 point 2 months ago

I'd close my eyes and spin in circles in my desk chair, trying to guess if I could hear the content nearly finish loading.

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boobookittyfrick 11 points 2 months ago

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toynbee 10 points 2 months ago

When I was young, the whole "you might be a redneck if ... " thing was popular and commonly aped. One example I saw was "you might be a geek if ... "

One of the qualifications was "you leave the modem speaker on after being connected because you think it sounds like the ocean, the perfect accompaniment for 'surfing the web.'"

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Simon_Shitewood 4 points 2 months ago

I've always interpreted "Binharic hymns" in 40k to just be modem noises.

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Kangae_Hishiryo 3 points 2 months ago

I'm fan of dubstep so I relate to you

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BooBees 44 points 2 months ago

Same, I also scream out in pain, inside, when I have to perform a handshake and negotiate communication protocols.

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starelfsc2 34 points 2 months ago

People take it for granted but it's actually such a cool bit of engineering, we had a world-changing technology, but it would take decades to get lines set up and wouldn't really be too useful until then. But engineers realized by literally playing and listening to beeps over an existing widespread utility in phone lines, you've just given almost everyone access to the internet overnight, with almost 0 infrastructure cost.

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railway692 7 points 2 months ago

Today I found out dial-up literally used the phone lines.

All the pieces were there, I just never thought about it.

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AlligatorBlizzard 14 points 2 months ago

Found the gen Z kid lol.

Anyone who actually used it was painfully aware of that fact. If anyone wanted to make a phone call, no more internet for you, and in some cases incoming phone calls could bounce you offline. Some people paid for a dedicated phone line for the internet but that was extremely rare for personal use.

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starelfsc2 2 points a month ago

I'm a millennial and baaaarely avoided dial-up, it was phasing out in the late 90s but I still have the sound burned into my head so I assume my parents used dial up when I was super young.

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bandwidthcrisis 3 points 2 months ago

This pic is an acoustic coupler, which played sounds and listened to them from the handset. Modems would connect directly to the phone circuit, bypassing actual sound waves (although they did still have a little speaker so the you could hear what they received).

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explodicle 22 points 2 months ago

20th century engineers: The worst thing I can possibly imagine is this cable getting disconnected. I would rather the entire thing get ripped apart or pulled off the shelf. Two screws, so it stays tight during combat.

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marcos 16 points 2 months ago

Monitor connectors: "I'll destroy all your hardware before I give up connecting this stuff. You can put as much punishment as you need!"

Disk drivers: "Help! The user sneezed! The disk is lost!"

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wyldrstallyns 8 points 2 months ago

Look what they need to approximate a fraction of our experience. 😅

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cmnybo 5 points 2 months ago

D-sub connectors still work fine if you don't screw them in. They were also used in industrial applications where you really didn't want them getting disconnected though.

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TIEPilot 18 points 2 months ago

I havent seen a modem like that in 40 years, damn I'm old.

But fun part I was the only kid in my neighborhood (maybe the county) w/ 2 phone lines into his house in 1982. The Bell guys were pretty vocal about it. My dad was a big wig at Digital, nothing like a VT125 at home.

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Multiplexer 8 points 2 months ago

I havent seen a modem like that in 40 years

My parents still used one until about 15 years ago.
Downside of living in the nice rural, but broadband-free, countryside...

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chiliedogg 5 points 2 months ago

I can understand having dial-up 15 years ago, but not having a more modern modem is wild.

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Multiplexer 3 points 2 months ago

They didn't use an acoustic coupler as in the image any more, you are correct ;-)
The noise was also still emitted by the more modern variants during dialing and connection establishment, and as I was reading the meme's text without paying much attention to the symbolic picture, I instantly thought of the standard 56k modem we still had.

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chiliedogg 4 points 2 months ago

Ahh.

The sound was also very different with the later modems. I started on a 9600 baud, and moved to 14400, 28800, and eventually 56k, and they all had different sounds.

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lastlybutfirstly 10 points 2 months ago

I wish there was a search engine that only searched text based websites or at least sites that don't have ads. 90s internet was amazing. Tons of websites ran by average people passionate about their interests, giving oral histories about things. Our computers were screaming, trying to tell us not to lose sight of what it was meant for.

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BlueberryWalnut 10 points 2 months ago path: 0 25485196 25485436, hotness: undefined, score: 10, children: 0
mobyduck648 4 points 2 months ago

I think Kagi has a 'small web' feature.

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lastlybutfirstly 5 points 2 months ago

Kagi looks like it's part of the problem. It exactly looks like that 2000s meme that showed a dystopian future where Comcast sells websites like cable channels.

https://kagi.com/pricing

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mobyduck648 4 points 2 months ago

The whole point is that you're paying them as a service rather than them using you as a feedstock for the ad industry. I don't object to paying for search personally.

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partial_accumen 3 points 2 months ago

I wish there was a search engine that only searched text based websites or at least sites that don’t have ads.

When you use Lynx Browser, everything on the internet is text:

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gh0stcassette 1 point a month ago

Wiby and searchmysite are basically this. I have them as backends for my SearXNG instance, in addition to mojeek, qwant, startpage, duckduckgo, and brave search. Put together, it's basically as good as Google was before it got enshittified to all fuck.

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Kolanaki 7 points 2 months ago

Is there a reason we specifically used those sounds for the communication? Like, surely it didn't have to sound like feral cats fucking, right?

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greenhorn 4 points 2 months ago

I'll not sure it had to make any sound.

All you had to do to silence the handshake was to send the command ATM0 down the serial line before dialing. The sound, visualized and explained

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HeyThisIsntTheYMCA 3 points 2 months ago

yeah but it could tho, right?

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cyberpunk007 6 points 2 months ago

While this is funny, isn't it ironic that's the same period where the internet was actually good?

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TubularTittyFrog 18 points 2 months ago

everything is good until someone decides to make money from it.

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wyldrstallyns 3 points 2 months ago

preach.

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wyldrstallyns 2 points 2 months ago

The same is said of other deals with ol' Mephisto.

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MehBlah 4 points 2 months ago

Someone should return those stolen pixels in that picture.

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SatyrSack 10 points 2 months ago

This picture is from the olden days, when pixels were rare.

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MehBlah 4 points 2 months ago

Not the olden days I was there and I'm not old. Get off my modem.

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rbn 6 points 2 months ago

No neee to get angry gramp. We'll get you some of that nice luke warm pudding and move your chair in front of the window in the sun. Okay? =)

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MehBlah 0 points 2 months ago

Not angry. Gleeful is the emotion. If you are lucky enough to survive, that pudding will be waiting on you.

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ODuffer 1 point 2 months ago
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dsilverz 4 points 2 months ago

Also, given how telephones like the one from the photo were the main way out of the simulation in The Matrix, the cry/screech was from someone outside The Matrix. Whoever was crying/screeching, was trying to warn about how computers, simulation within the simulation, would be further trapping us inside The Matrix. Now the telephones are gone, and so is our only line to whoever was trying to warn.

!programmer_humor@programming.dev

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wyldrstallyns 1 point 2 months ago

Seriously, meeting someone that could recite the number the modern was calling was like finding a secret wizard warlock IRL. 🤯

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Sam_Bass 1 point 2 months ago

now mine grumbles in consternation because it isnt. at least not long enough.for it to realize and try to update things heh

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onipa 1 point 2 months ago

the broken earth triology anybody?

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