Valid point

a month ago by LadyButterfly she/her to c/science_memes

gjoel 38 points a month ago

Isn't that usually how infestations work though?

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Mouselemming 44 points a month ago

Humans infest shark habitats. You don't see sharks coming into your gated community, do you?

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Viking_Hippie 20 points a month ago

Would be a rad way to thin out the herd of xenophobic rich people, though 🤔

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gjoel 6 points a month ago

No, sharks rarely infest gated communities. The point was that infestations usually consist of animals that live in the place they are undesired.

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SnoopSqueak 10 points a month ago

No, the point is that indigenous populations are not infesting their own natural habitats.

For example, "Native Americans" did not "infest" the United States. White people did.

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gjoel 5 points a month ago

That's a different point though. If you have a termite infestation, you might say that they're invasive to the house and it's not their natural element. However you might also say that they live there, which is equally true.

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bobo 3 points a month ago

For example, "Native Americans" did not "infest" the United States. White people did.

Do you imagine the various indigenous populations of Americas popped out of the ground like mushrooms? They're pretty far from their "natural habitat" in the plains of sub-saharan Africa... Or is that too far back in history and their "natural habitat" is in Siberia and Polynesia?

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Mouselemming 2 points a month ago

Yes the white folks came and made a mess of the place. Which, if sharks chose to move into your house, they would also do. Probably leave the taps running all over the place too

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gjoel 2 points a month ago

So the right phrasing would be "no, it's their natural habitat", not "no, they live there", since, and this was my point if you go back, if an animal infests something it usually lives there, making the point in the post redundant.

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Natanael 4 points a month ago

A zoo is a gated community

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MajorMajormajormajor 5 points a month ago

Damn snobbish animals living in gated communities.

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gjoel 3 points a month ago

And sharks regularly infest zoos?

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Mouselemming 2 points a month ago

Valid point. Although that's without their consent, whereas most humans infesting the ocean are choosing to remain there, USS Abraham Lincoln sailors notwithstanding.

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Zaphod 19 points a month ago

Aren't infestations about something that wasn't there before and doesn't actually belong there?

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quediuspayu 11 points a month ago

No, it is about their presence being wanted or not. I don't want to go to a swamp because is infested with mosquitoes for example, mosquitoes were always there.

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/...
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/...

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credo 2 points a month ago

I saw both links pop up as well. I opted to go with the first, standard, book— webster’s instead of cherry picking.

The problem is, both meanings are correct. However, the “troublesome” definition is primary.. and look at the example given:

1 to spread or swarm in or over in a troublesome manner

shark-infested waters

2 to live in or on as a parasite

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Rothe 0 points a month ago

We are aware of the dictionary definition. OP was precisely about arguing that that definition is a based on a fallacy.

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quediuspayu 2 points a month ago

Where is the fallacy?

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SpaceScotsman 33 points a month ago

Human infested cities. Cat infested cafés. Cattle infested farms.

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sun_is_ra 8 points a month ago

Humans infested every place including oceans honestly

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Lushed_Lungfish -1 points a month ago

Humans are a disease. You are a cancer on this planet.

Edit: Are we so old, you and I, that no one else gets the Matrix ref?

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TherapyGary 5 points a month ago

You

Hmm

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Sidhean 4 points a month ago

Thanks, you too!

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BenLeMan 2 points a month ago

Calm down there, AI clanker.

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RobotToaster 23 points a month ago

I'm taking this far too seriously for a meme, but I already looked it up out of curiosity so ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

To inhabit a place in unpleasantly large numbers; to plague, harass.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/infest

Interestingly (at least to me) it looks like it's related to "manifest'.

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ignotum 18 points a month ago

Ah so i can say "human infested planet" then

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Uli 8 points a month ago

"Welcome to my me-infested home."

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TRock 6 points a month ago

Yep

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Peppycito 4 points a month ago

Puts a new spin on Manifest Destiny.

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MajorMajormajormajor 2 points a month ago

One man's infestation is another man's colonisation.

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im_fine_sandy 17 points a month ago

Actually marinas like the one pictured or "canal estates" often create environments that become "infested" with pests and predators. Some of which for example contain bull sharks in plague proportions. Yes sharks live in the ocean but anyone living next to a canal teaming with them would conclude that there is an "investation".

Bull sharks are unique in that they can somehow retain salt from ocean / salt / brackish water which allows them to operate in fresh water. They're also more aggressive than other species, or perhaps just more likely to grab at movement in murky river water.

I remember watching a documentary suggesting that bull shark attacks might have been the inspiration for the Jaws series, after a spate of attacks in estuaries in the US in the years prior.

Jeremy Wade on River Monsters TV series also had an episode about them.

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johnyreeferseed 4 points a month ago

I just watched a movie last week where these people where exploring a freshwater cave and then became trapped by a shark. I thought it was some stupid movie detail, didn't know it might actually be possible.

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rumba 8 points a month ago

infest verb in·fest in-ˈfest infested; infesting; infests Synonyms of infest transitive verb

1 : to spread or swarm in or over in a troublesome manner shark-infested waters

2 : to live in or on as a parasite

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elucubra 11 points a month ago

Oktober-fest;

1 : to spread or swarm in or over in a troublesome manner buxom-waitress-in traditional-dress infested waters

2 : to live in or on as a completely smashed parasite

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Godric 10 points a month ago

Shut up! Germans just live there!

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ChickenLadyLovesLife 3 points a month ago

Yeah, it's just their lebensraum, nothing to be concerned about at all.

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MajorMajormajormajor 3 points a month ago

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Godric 4 points a month ago

Shut up! Termites just live there!

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Danarchy 7 points a month ago

This is why festivals are called that all teeming with wretched humans and their various parasites

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anon_8675309 9 points a month ago

Infest-ivals?

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melfie 7 points a month ago

On a related note, the “Cities” episode of Planet Earth is an interesting one. Human cities are the fastest growing ecosystem on Earth, so why wouldn’t our fellow planetary inhabitants want to take our shit when we’ve been taking theirs?

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M0oP0o 6 points a month ago

Eh, we see lots of people infested places and they can also live there. The two things can both be true. (Granted the number of sharks needed for this title is a bit low).

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judgy_jackdaw 6 points a month ago

then what does ever infest anything

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AngryCommieKender 8 points a month ago

Bedbugs, human habitations.

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hansolo 2 points a month ago

Bro, the way I'm infesting my pants right now...