Peter Thiel puts her in a sort of deity tier.
Greta Thunberg calls for boycott of Apple for their 2nd largest worldwide R&D center in 'Israel'
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Peter Thiel puts her in a sort of deity tier.
i wish i could escape the ecosystem but ive been in it for decades now and have no idea how to:
sigh. no clear checklist path.
thing is: i am a sw engineer already and have lazily enjoyed my phone being something i dont have to worry about day to day.
What exactly are the phone concerns tho?
Not at all, perhaps only a modicum of technology confidence to do the install, though I can understand how it can feel/seem a tad daunting. Sent from my GrapheneOS pixel with no sysadmin knowledge π«‘.
I don't think it was ever that troublesome. But custom rom support was indeed a hit or miss thing. I bought FP6 with /e/OS preinstalled for this reason and had no issues. At least no major ones. No babysitting required stuff just works.
Other popular option is google pixel with graphene.
Only if you consider using a different app than the play store to be sysadmin, really. Depending on your reliance on proprietary apps and ability to accept foss apps, it doesn't have to be much different.
well yeah. i love me some foss stuff. but from an os level, the footprint and response to cves from an oss os vs a corporate one i can see going both ways. in short, i should pick up and try a graphene one.
Using GrapheneOS is as simple or as complicated as you want it to be. I'm not de googled entirely as I use the play store for some apps, but running the sandboxed play store and an F droid client is all it takes. That's like 5 minutes of setup. It's really not different from stock android or iOS except I have two app stores to choose from instead of one. It all updates automatically and just works
i left their ecosystem about 3 years ago now.
i haven't used any google products in like 10 years anyway (it's why i switched to apple in the first place. but i feel like now the open source or european alternatives have finally caught up with the standards i need).
great write up. thanks! i use protonmail for my domain emails. but will look into e/os/ and fair phone when this iphone dies. the other things iβll look into, too! (i dont so much care abt photos but it couldnt hurt to keep them backed up, i reckon )
I wouldn't bother with the mobile devices so much.
Google is deeply embedded in the zionist entity. It has multiple subdivisions located there, deep ties to their intelligence apparatus (and to the US intelligence apparatus) Jumping from paying apple $1000 for a phone to paying Google $1000 for a phone that you install another OS on doesn't really help IMO and is like jumping from a boiling pot into the deep fryer next to it.
Don't buy Mac computers, don't buy Apple accessories, don't buy in iTunes, and limit app store purchases where feasible. That and putting up some stickers/posters or making more people aware of this complicity to hit Apple even a little in the pocket will do more than switching phone ecosystems like that.
NAS + linux everything
welcome to my world. lol
google's "dont be evil" motto suckered me in during the early 2000's and now i'm so quagmiresd in it that i can't find a single path for all of it.
atleast graphene for me will be slightly easier since i've mostly used android this entire time -- idk what iphone users will do.
Same. It is, what it is. You canβt fight in all wars. It is also okay to just be conscious and informed about it. No one wins if you try to fight everything and die because of exhaustion.
I promise I won't buy a Duo.
So what am I supposed to use instead? Android by Google? GrapheneOS on a Google Pixel? I reluctantly switched from Google Pixel to iPhone a year ago and plan on just not upgrading as long as possible tbh
Motorola has a Graphene phone coming out soonTM. Else just buy a non-Google Android phone.
Do you have any idea how hard these are to get on most of the planet?
Degloogled ones
$. It doesn't grow on trees
I was honestly disappointed when they said it's going to be a high-end phone costing over 1000β¬.
Google makes a huge amount of money from Android though so Iβm curious to see what Motorola is cooking
You could always install AOSP-based ROMs (LineageOS, /e/, etc.) on those non-Google Android phones. Google doesn't really make any money from those (if you avoid Gapps).
If you want to avoid Android and iOS altogether, you're going to be disappointed with Motorola as well, because they'll keep using Android (which, just like the other ROMs, GrapheneOS is based on), leaving you with basically just Linux-based operating systems like postmarketOS, Ubuntu Touch or Sailfish OS.
Like Huawei and China are any better than the US companies.
Right now there are almost no options not linked to some major political movement or crime against humanity.
So it would be best to choose the option that gives you the most freedom to avoid government and corporate overreach after purchase. Where it is developed or manufactured is less important compared to that.
You make it sound like china and US are the same level of bad. When US+Israel are currently doing a televised genocide. Chinese AI models are the reason why most of the world are even able to run efficient AI model on their own devices. Chinese EVs are making electric cars more affordable. Chinese companies are leading the solar adoption. Chinese ram manufacturers are breaking up RAM monopoly. Chinese companies are also making sodium ion batteries mainstream.
Sure china is not free of any wrong doing but comparatively, they are not as bad as US.
And if you wanna avoid both china and USA then you also have fairphone on which you can install calyx, e/OS, or lineage.
Yes China is a million times better in terms of human rights than Israel
Tell that to the Uyngers and Tibitans.
It looks different from the Palestinian genocide, in that rather than straight bombing and stealing land, China focuses more on mass interment and re-education, forced sterilization and forced labour.
Just like the US and Israel, China is being ruled by capitalist Oligarchs that will commit genocide to gain and control resources.
That is a valid concern, especially since there is no viable options. I guess the best option would be to ditch the phone and wait for the Linux phone - but that isn't necessarily viable either, so compromises have to be made - for now.
No idea, I'm really hoping the co-op of Motorola and non-android ends up working on more than the intended hardware. They say they want it for flagship, but hopefully it ends up working on a number of cheaper Motorola phones or such
There isnβt really a correct answer, nor one that will βabsolve you of sinβ. Trying to maintain some kind of purity is as much a distraction from the root of the problem as self-recycling is in regards to global warming.
Having a tool you have confidence in us important. Iβve been slowly backing out of the Apple ecosystem since the last election, but being present, the sacrifice of time and place, at town meetings, party meetings, etc. is going to have a much greater impact on the world around you than trying to purchase salvation with phone.
I'll join, but I already thought Apple was overpriced bullshit.
Idiots love it, though.
Why in the hell would you setup R&D for a computer company in Isreal for any reason that isn't a bribe of some sort?
Israelis infiltrate companies and then try to funnel investment of the company into Israel and hire more Israelis. It's the most blatant nepotism and corruption you'll ever see.
Haven't they been on the BDS list for a while now?
The official BDS list is very small and targeted and does not contain Apple (yet). BDS is meant as a starting point for the most important companies to boycott according to the BDS org. Boycotting beyond that is still effective.
I use an extended list that contains companies connected to those on the main list, and companies connected to those companies. I'm still a little surprised Apple hasn't been on the official list yet, but hopefully this will get them added to it.
I use the No Thanks app which contains almost every brand and only occasionally run into some tech stuff which is difficult because almost all of the major players have Israel links but I try to get AMD since they're least bad in that respect for now.
I use Boycat, which has a barcode scanner. There are a few things that I've found that should be on its list that aren't (largely due to recent buyouts), but it's very handy when I'm not sure about something in the store.
I haven't bought any tech lately. I'm hoping that Chinese GPUs will hit American markets eventually and I can just avoid all the American tech companies before I need to upgrade. We'll see.
I use a de-Googled phone with /e/OS installed. Works like a dream!
You can also go to https://plexus.techlore.tech/ to check app compatibilities. I discovered new apps via https://switchdigest.eu/.
Just get to feel better and better about buying a fairphone.
That does suck they did that, such a "great american company", like so many others don't really care about the country where they started. It's business and they create jobs elsewhere, and then people blame on Dems for wanting safe workplaces, benefits and livable incomes for people, rather than the businesses that chose others over We The People. Truth.
I have a 12 mini I just replaced the battery on. I'll keep it running as long as I can, hopefully a few more years. I took it out of its case for the first time when I had the battery replaced, it looks brand-new, perfect condition.
Truth is, I'll probably go with Apple again whenever this phone bites it. But, who knows?
It's not the end of the world. Boycotting matters most and is easiest when you don't care much about a product brand. Which are most products for most people.
In our current state; the lack of privacy, I challenge myself on why I need a newer similar model of phone. Like the number of apps I used has significantly decreased and continues to. Having the shiniest new toy is not with it, especially when itβs not novel.
Better battery life and camera mostly.
If your battery is good and you're happy with your camera, there's no reason to upgrade any more often than like 6-7 years on flagships these days. Cheap phones will actually get outdated in that time.
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