People today are too far gone from the reality of our situation to understand this. Democracy is only meant to prevent killing one another en masse, as a means to say who would probably win in a war. That’s the very basis of its design.
Think about it. Think of human history. And why is the cutoff exactly >50%? Strength means victory- if not a pyrrhic one.
If you aren’t even willing to vote for your beliefs, you certainly aren’t willing to pickup a rifle. The other side still will.
Vote.
But it’s only as good as genuine strength makes it count. Does anyone really think angry letters are enough? Our species is not actually passive; although proper education and acceptance of one another’s opinions could maybe one day get us there. Perhaps.
But probably not.
yes. We need to get rid of the ability for media companies to influence our voters, and rich interests to buy our politicians. Until then we are cooked, and the rest of the world is cooked in direct proportion to how much America can mess with them to satisfy some rich persons special interest.
Its hard to chart a path to get to a better result though. Clowns will say just voting will do it, but voting in a captured system will get you an outcome thats permitted by the rich, not one that will fundamentally change the game. Its like cows voting that they not be slaughtered. No one wants a revolution, but how do we get there without one? sit ins? voting in primaries? sternly worded letters? protests in protest zones? I dont have any answers either, but I feel like we have to think more creatively than just adopting what worked in the 60s or using revolution. We arent in the 60s anymore. Protests like those arent tolerated anymore, and the Dems are as bad as the repubs on repressing dissent.
The DNC failed this country a long time ago, in what feels like a galaxy far, far away.
'We're doomed.'
The DNC is also willing to kill for their beliefs but Palestinians only please.
I mean, the amount of cheering and celebrating at Charlie Kirks death pretty much shows that both sides are only leaving the other alive because jail is a powerful de-motivator.
But it's only good enough to keep a person civil if they think they have something to lose. Make society bad enough and people start seeing violence not as a last resort but as a first option.
Kirk's death was celebrated because he said that "a few deaths from gun violence were fine to justify gun liberty". Kids dying at school were ok but his death wasn't? Kinda double standard, don't you think?
His beliefs killed him, we should be happy he died thanks to what he believed most.
Also, he thought empathy was a weakness, why should we show empathy for him? To show we are weak? Nah, he died, we laugh because that's what he would have wanted.
Thank god for dead Charlie Kirks.
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There are literally some of those braindead child-raping scumfuck parasitic wastes of skin in this very comment section claiming apropos of nothing that "leftist violence" is happening "all the time" and it's "right in front of us" as they gesture broadly at absolutely fuck-all jack shit zilch.
In their minds, the left did it first.
Fascists are unbelievably violent. Who woulda thought?
And Facebook has empowered these people.
I've seen cases they say simillar things like this on Facebook but encode it a bit, and Facebook never removes it.
Happy we might get new social media laws here in Australia to finally be able to opt out of empowering these assholes
I lived in SE Idaho during the Obama years and I lost track of how many times adults openly talked about shooting or hanging the President. My daughters reported that children on the bus would also fantasize and openly talk about killing the President. This is not even surprising for me, which is sad.
If those Republicans could read a Bible, they'd be very upset.
Literal cult
I'll have two responses to that; 1) bullshit, and 2) fuck you
Of course they're going to have responses. Shove them right back in their faces.
My two responses are bullet calibers depending on range.
I have a friend who immigrated to the US, and then moved to Canada and became a citizen there. He likes it much better, he never wants to come back to the US haha. Maybe you could get your parents to switch to Canada or somewhere else instead if they don't want to give up on this? I live in the US and I personally cannot recommend immigrating here, especially right now.
Well, I don't wanna leave my city, let alone my country. I cannot make that understand to my parents but I just love the place where I am born even though it is not much safe place and it is one of those third world countries in South Asia.
Completely understand, if you don't want to leave you shouldn't have to! Home is a powerful thing. I hope you can be successful and happy where you are, with community and kindness around you and that your parents respect your decision.
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Are we really just going to ignore the fact that both sides do this? Can we all agree BOTH sides and ALL violence is bad?
Ahh yes, I remember all the times that DNC guests called for shooting Republicans.
Yes. Because one side wants to kill anyone who's not basically a "perfect white american" (according to their own values) and the other is trying to survive.
Violence is almost never the answer. Except when you fight fascists and nazis, then violence is the only answer and solution.
Nazis want to kill me because I'm different (read non a "true american"). My life doesn't endanger theirs nor affects their lives. Yet they want me dead.
I want them dead because that way I can live. So yeah, one is justified, the other is not. Sorry if this hurt your nazi feelings, but the only good nazi is a dead nazi.
"I want them dead because that way I can live" -every Republican calling for Democrat murders right now.
"Our violence is justified, the other is not."
Said everybody.
Quick question: What do you call someone who defends nazis?
Stop defending nazis.
Read a history book.
Do you know how often violence is the answer?
Educate yourself for 10 minutes before you look like a moron.
Governments and rich people didn't give shit to poor people because they asked nicely.
Your naivety is shocking.
This has to be satire, right?
It's a statistical fact that rightwing violence is WAY more common in the US than leftwing violence, so you can take that both sides shit somewhere else where it's actually relevant.
No, we do not agree. NONE of the democratic leaders calls for the execution of political opponents like Trump does. Both sides apply only to single nobody in the crowd, but I do not care about those to be honest. Those will always exists. Both sides is just a way to distract from the fact the sitting president is asking for the hanging of the senators of the opposition.
For fucks sake how and when did that happen?
20 nov 2025:
Trump accuses Democrats of 'seditious behavior, punishable by death,' for urging military to ignore illegal orders
From Trump account:
Hang them George Washington would
Don't you have other crosses to burn somewhere?
lol, look at this kid trotting out “both sides” after repeatedly saying only dems kill people or want them dead. He’s so adorable when pretending to have empathy!
I hope you’re mistaken for a brown person by your precious ICE crusaders.
Huh?
🤣🤣😆😄🤣🤣 Nope. 😃 You are lying.
Every word uttered by a conservative is deception or manipulation. Every. Word.
Lol you all are absolutely horrific. It is incredibly sad you all are in an echo chamber of violence justification.
🤣🤣 Go back to StormFront or Nambla or wherever conservatives like to hang out these days.
Ooh, sorry kid, I'm afraid that little nugget of undeniable truth is gonna cost you about a bajillion downvotes.
See, when we call for murder it's completely justified because they're bad people. When they call for murder it's not justified at all because they're trying to kill good people.
And they definitely don't think the same thing about us, because deep down they really know that they're evil and that they deserve it - they just refuse to admit it. Either that or they're not people at all, whichever is more rhetorically useful in the moment.
Edit: turns out the guy I responded to is an actual Republican trying to deflect, and not someone going against the grain trying to inject some sanity into the conversation. I'm leaving this comment up because it's still true, but downvote away.
Sometimes down votes just mean you're wrong, you know?
Are people on lemmy democratic leaders or speakers at democratic conventions? Or are you 100% full of shit and trying to move the goalposts in the most obvious way possible?
I don't think you're being genuine. You can always find people online saying ridiculous shit. You can't control that. But when it enters the sphere of "real politics" it needs to be shutdown. I hate the guy, but even Charlie Kirk could do this. It's a very low bar but I'm not surprised the spineless shitsack Cruz couldn't clear it.
Conservatives decided that normal people are their enemy and need to be oppressed to death. We turned the other cheek for decades. You can't act all butt-hurt that we finally agree with you that we are enemies.
Of course I want my enemies to die. You taught me this role and insist I play it. So, now I'm playing it. Stop crying about it and get off our planet.
We call nazis as we see them. Sorry your cover got blown. Everyone sees you as the nazi you are now, though. No putting that toothpaste back in the tube. Bye, nazi.
No. You're conflating two vastly different things, and I'm not letting you move the goalposts
Calls for Democrats to be shot heard during Republican convention speech
Only one side admits they're domestic terrorists, but I'm sure you'll try to say both sides do because some random on the Internet said it too
Is that why there is a rule #6, and it's often enforced, I've noticed?
Even the Bulwark are not this absurd. At least not lately. Even they recognize the dangers of the right. I think Sarah has been wringing her hands over Hasan Piker but that's about the extent of it.
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This is something Democrats and the DNC need to understand: Republicans are willing to kill for their beliefs.
Until the DNC stops believing that Republicans will be "reasonable", Democrats will fail our country. It's only a matter of time until Trump has his version of the night of the long knives.
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