It’s rarely been harder for people to find new jobs

10 days ago by return2ozma to c/workreform

The unemployment rate is low by historical standards, but the job market is anything but dynamic.
devaly 94 points 10 days ago

This is every oligarch's wet dream: People accepting anything to do the job, and can't quit either. The invisible shackles of Capitalism.

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HeyJoe 28 points 10 days ago

They are coming for our standard healthcare options next. Take it all away and be happy.

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Kalothar 11 points 10 days ago

You guys have healthcare options?

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GreenKnight23 14 points 10 days ago

That only lasts so long.

if I'm willing to do anything for money, then I'm willing to sabotage your company for your competition.

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Snapz 3 points 9 days ago

No competition when there is no more antitrust oversight. Your boss also owns that building next door - their logo is green, yours is blue, but all the revenue goes to the same quarterly report.

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GreenKnight23 2 points 9 days ago

then I have no choice but to sabotage for my own benefit.

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Hazor 1 point 8 days ago

But that's the best part: they bribed a few senators so they could buy up all their competition.

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Danarchy 66 points 10 days ago

Off to look for new jobs with my briefcase full of jizzum

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Pattylay 31 points 10 days ago

Hard to leave my current job cuz idk how to explain leaving with my cumcase

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GreenKnight23 10 points 10 days ago

AI prompt: old style black briefcase on a blue background with white jizz sticking to the bottom like a lot of jizz more than one person could ejaculate I'm talking bukkake levels of jizz

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atomicbocks 38 points 10 days ago

Next month I will have been unemployed for 2 years… this fucking sucks.

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HubertManne 14 points 10 days ago

hey that was me last month. im over 50 and I just know there will be stuff about my generation not saving enough for retirement.

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cyberpunk007 9 points 10 days ago

Good gravy, really? What industry do you work in?

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atomicbocks 11 points 10 days ago

Yep, since November 2024. Web development.

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thevoidzero 16 points 10 days ago

How are you surviving? If I don't have job for more than 4 months I won't have a place to live. I can't imagine 2 yrs

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cyberpunk007 10 points 10 days ago

My question also. Maybe partner has a job?

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atomicbocks 5 points 9 days ago

We have been very very lucky so far. My SO has a good job and got a promotion not long ago, we also have generous friends and family. Unfortunately none of that is sustainable.

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asdfasdfasdf 2 points 9 days ago

What's been the biggest issue for you finding one? I would have thought web dev would have something to offer.

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atomicbocks 2 points 9 days ago

I think it’s a numbers game right now, I have been able to find less than half the number of jobs to apply for as the last time I was in a long term search (though not this long) and the people I talk to say they are getting an order of magnitude more applications many of which are clearly AI generated. Then the jobs I do find are half the time fake themselves or are just posted for some bureaucratic reason and aren’t an actual opening.

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athatet 31 points 10 days ago

Breaking news. No one has a job anymore. Anyway, pay us money to read about it.

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anon_8675309 26 points 10 days ago

But I heard the economy is amazing.

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cyberpunk007 8 points 10 days ago

The economy is amazing, tremendous if I must say, the economy is doing great in this great economic time because of my greatness at economics.

  • DJT, probably.
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Aralakh 5 points 10 days ago

THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER

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cyberpunk007 3 points 9 days ago

🤣

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Maeve 15 points 10 days ago path: 0 26123987, hotness: undefined, score: 15, children: 1
W98BSoD 2 points 10 days ago

Da real MVP

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thatkomputerkat 10 points 9 days ago

"The unemployment rate is low by historical standards..."

What if I told you the unemployment rate is a bullshit number tracked by bullshit people with bullshit jobs?

The only people counted as unemployed are those who both check in regularly with unemployment and either are actively looking for work or expecting to be rehired after layoffs.

Even if you are looking for work, if you aren't actively checking in with unemployment, you aren't being counted. And who the fuck wastes time with reporting to unemployment when they have no unemployment benefits to claim because they either never had them or ran out of them?

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Lyrl 2 points 9 days ago

A common misconception. Below quotes are from https://www.bls.gov/cps/cps_htgm.htm, bolding mine. Also, the BLS report has six different measures of unemployment counting various different groups. The "headline number" of U3 counts only people actively looking for work, but other measures count people who want jobs but aren't looking and people who work part time but want to be full time. Labor force participation is also in there, counting people even if they don't want to find a job. It's all reported!

Some people think that to get these figures on unemployment, the government uses the number of people collecting unemployment insurance (UI) benefits under state or federal government programs. But some people are still jobless when their benefits run out, and many more are not eligible at all or delay or never apply for benefits. So, quite clearly, UI information cannot be used as a source for complete information on the number of unemployed.

Because unemployment insurance records relate only to people who have applied for such benefits, and since it is impractical to count every unemployed person each month, the government conducts a monthly survey called the Current Population Survey (CPS) to measure the extent of unemployment in the country. The CPS has been conducted in the United States every month since 1940, when it began as a Work Projects Administration program. In 1942, the U.S. Census Bureau took over responsibility for the CPS. The survey has been expanded and modified several times since then. In 1994, for instance, the CPS underwent a major redesign in order to computerize the interview process as well as to obtain more comprehensive and relevant information.

There are about 60,000 eligible households in the sample for this survey. This translates into approximately 110,000 individuals each month, a large sample compared to public opinion surveys, which usually cover fewer than 2,000 people. The CPS sample is selected so as to be representative of the entire population of the United States

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thatkomputerkat 2 points 8 days ago

I have no confidence in these kinds of surveys. How Are people contacted? What kind of person trusts the purpose of these surveys? I couldn’t find anything in that mountain of text saying how they contact these people. Do you know how many people don’t pick up the phone anymore? Do they only call landlines? Do they mail it out?

Also, 110,000 people out of (2020 census) 331 million citizens, 258.3 million adults. That’s 0.04% of adults surveyed monthly.

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Lyrl 1 point 8 days ago

The survey design and data collection are described at https://www.bls.gov/opub/hom/cps/design.htm and https://www.bls.gov/opub/hom/cps/data.htm

Some excerpts:

The sample is made up of addresses, not the names of people or families at those addresses.

The CPS [Current Population Survey] starts with a probability sample of about 74,000 assigned housing units each month. Approximately 62,000 housing units are eligible for interview each month, after excluding those which are destroyed, vacant, converted to nonresidential use, contain only people whose usual place of residence is elsewhere, or are ineligible for other reasons. Interviews are completed for about 54,000 housing units. In a given month, about 13 percent of housing units are not interviewed, because of the temporary absence of the occupants (they might be on vacation, for example), other failures to make contact after repeated attempts, inability of people contacted to respond, unavailability for other reasons, and refusals to cooperate.

The Census Bureau will contact each household for 8 monthly interviews over a 16-month period.

Personal visits are typically required the first month the household is in the sample, and they are preferred in the fifth month. In other months, interviews generally are conducted by telephone. Households without a telephone and those which specifically request a personal visit usually receive in-person interviews each month. About 10 percent of eligible households are interviewed via computer-assisted telephone interviewing (CATI) from telephone centers located in Jeffersonville, Indiana, and Tucson, Arizona. Field representatives interview the remaining households (approximately 68 percent of households in any given month) by telephone.

Because of the crucial role interviewers have in the CPS, a great amount of time and effort is spent maintaining the quality of their work. Interviewers are given intensive training, including classroom lectures, discussion, practice, observation, home-study materials, and on-the-job training. Interviewers receive self-study training each month, as well as periodic refresher training sessions. They also are periodically accompanied by a supervisor during a full day of interviewing to determine how well they carry out their assignments.

A selected number of households are reinterviewed each month to detect and deter falsification by interviewers. These reinterviews are conducted by a dedicated staff operating independently of the CPS management structure.

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schipelblorp 9 points 10 days ago

Started listening to a YouTube channel on economics and this guy was straightforwardly taking the unemployment number at face value, not mentioning that the true unemployment rate might be significantly higher, including people who have given up looking for work.

I think it might be a psyop.

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DanceMomsSavedMe 5 points 10 days ago

Now now, I hear there's a promising career path with Crack Cocaine Manufacturing/Sales.

Never give up!

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myyass 5 points 9 days ago

One of the biggest issues I've noticed is that the process is broken. I've posted this before; but having to use a website to apply if not a cr'application and to have to take a psychological evaluation, that some stupid bloke made, just to get an interview is asinine.

Then the expectation of blowing smoke up someone ass in an interview is ridiculous. Why do you want to work here? For the money dipshit, I could think of a million better things to do morons. Don't get me started on anything tech or repair related; please *demonstrate your skills * fix this shit for free.

Anything kind of work is just that, work.

Also the rampant job scams are at an all time high. At this point, leave a voice mail. I won't respond to texts, it's a security liability.

We really need to go back to using paper applications and faxes.

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No_Ones_Slick_Like_Gaston 4 points 10 days ago

It’s rarely been THIS harder for people to find new jobs

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Bluedragon012 1 point 9 days ago

It's tumbling down tumbling down tumbling doooown~🎶

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A place to discuss positive changes that can make work more equitable, and to vent about current practices. We are NOT against work; we just want the fruits of our labor to be recognized better.

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  • All workers must be paid a living wage for their labor.
  • Income inequality is the main cause of lower living standards.
  • Workers must join together and fight back for what is rightfully theirs.
  • We must not be divided and conquered. Workers gain the most when they focus on unifying issues.

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  • Better worker representation, including but not limited to unions.
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