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10 days ago by Arthur Besse to c/linuxmemes

truthfultemporarily 129 points 10 days ago

Honestly, great! More bugs found, more bugs fixed, better system for everyone.

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Fmstrat 5 points 9 days ago

It's KVM we should really be worried about anyway.

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slazer2au 107 points 10 days ago

But how many of those are actual problems though?

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truthfultemporarily 110 points 10 days ago

To add, pretty much any kernel bug gets a CVE because everything wrong in the kernel could theoretically be abused.

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slazer2au 36 points 10 days ago

But there is a difference between an unauthenticated bug and a bug requiring an authenticated user getting some deserialised data.

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truthfultemporarily 25 points 10 days ago

Yes, hence why you would have to check the CVSS of all of those.

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klankin 15 points 10 days ago

And they just changed the CVE rules to include non-exploitable bugs too.

My theory is its to pump AI 'discoveries' numbers

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AnAmericanPotato 67 points 10 days ago

Most of them are just crashing bugs. Worth fixing but you don't need to panic. If anyone exploits them, then A) you'll know about it, and B) they won't get away with anything sensitive.

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bobtimus_prime 75 points 10 days ago

No need to panic? Tell that the kernel! :D

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SeductiveTortoise 6 points 10 days ago

The kernel is really anxious though, panics all the time.

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smeenz 6 points 9 days ago

But crashing bugs are good for denial of service.

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carrylex 92 points 10 days ago path: 0 26127531, hotness: undefined, score: 92, children: 1
spicehoarder 4 points 9 days ago

Maybe it's vulnerable as in admitting to being stupid? /s

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username_1 41 points 10 days ago

1,313

Less than one and a half? Not a big deal.

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festnt 12 points 10 days ago

most countries (i think) use ',' for separating every 3 numbers instead of '.', which is used for separating decimals from whole numbers

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luciferofastora 26 points 10 days ago

Pretty sure the person you responded to knows that and is joking, since you can hardly have a fraction of a CVE. Germany (where their instance is hosted) uses comma for decimal separators, so that joke is pretty close at hand.

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username_1 14 points 10 days ago

Actually I am sure otherwise. I believe comma is more widespread per country (dot might be more widespread by populace due to China, though)

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cypherpunks 12 points 10 days ago

I believe comma is more widespread per country

it looks like you might be right... I'm surprised to learn that https://en.wikipedia.org/... lists 83 countries who use comma as decimal separator, and only 59 who use dot (and presumably the thousands separator is usually the opposite of the decimal separator). However there are enough countries which aren't on either list that it isn't entirely clear from that page which convention is actually used in more countries.

Also, it's much more complicated than the . vs , binary... among other oddities:

  • Historically, in Germany and Austria, thousands separators were occasionally denoted by alternating uses of commas and points, e.g. "1.234,567.890,12" (or "1.234,567.890Β·12" in Austria-Hungary and Austria prior to 1938) for "eine Milliarde 234 Millionen ...", but this is not seen today and contemporary German readers would require an explanation to understand it.
  • In Switzerland, there are two styles. Currency values use an apostrophe (') as a thousands separator along with a dot (.) as the decimal separator, like "1'234'567.89". For other values, the SI-style "1 234 567,89" is used, with a comma (,) as the decimal separator. The apostrophe is also the most common thousands separator for non-currency values, like "1'234'567,89".
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Damage 7 points 10 days ago

Here in Italy the thousands separator used to be a "high dot", like the apostrophe you mention but in the shape of a dot... But our keyboards have no easy way to output that symbol so it went out of fashion over the last 20-30 years.

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festnt 2 points 9 days ago

interesting. in brazil we use . for thousands and , for decimals, and most of my knowledge from outside is english-speaking countries (mostly the US), so i guess i just thought that was the default

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kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E 2 points 9 days ago

I hate commas used as thousands separators, with passion

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Mubelotix 29 points 10 days ago

Israel and the NSA must be sad

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possiblylinux127 27 points 10 days ago

All bugs are treated as CVEs

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klankin 1 point 10 days ago
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RustyNova 20 points 10 days ago

For the stable distribution (trixie), these problems have been fixed in version 6.12.111-1.

Debian problems I guess

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cypherpunks 27 points 10 days ago

Debian problems I guess

Not really; the Linux kernel has had 8500 CVEs so far this year (according to this).

Most of them aren't actually known to be definitely-exploitable security bugs, but some are. You can read more about how Linux issues CVEs from this post on Greg Kroah-Hartman's website: Linux CVEs, more than you ever wanted to know (and/or watch one of his talks on the subject which is linked from there).

See also this article from July: Linux kernel team publishes 432 CVEs in two days: Sunday-to-Monday onslaught fuels speculation over AI-assisted bug reports.

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Buddahriffic 3 points 10 days ago

Yeah, just to add some context, you can detect potential buffer overruns in code by looking for patterns but just because you find potential buffer overruns doesn't mean they are exploitable. The user needs to be able to inject not just code or parameters but also a return address that causes the injected code to run or triggers another function call with the injected parameters. With randomized code and stack addresses, this can be difficult or practically impossible, even if it's easy to customize what bytes go into the overrun part of the buffer.

It's like finding small parts of dangerous patterns but those small parts aren't necessarily dangerous on their own and need more of the pattern to be an issue, but if you fix the small parts you find, you're less likely run into those bigger patterns, so it's worthwhile to fix the small patterns when they come up, but without fitting into a larger pattern, it wasn't an actual security hole, just a potential one.

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eksb 13 points 10 days ago

They are not Debian-specific.

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Ooops 4 points 10 days ago

But still listing year's old vulnerabilities that got fixed long ago because they are still supporting ancient stuff like 5.10LTS is Debian-specific.

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cypherpunks 10 points 10 days ago

But still listing year’s old vulnerabilities that got fixed long ago because they are still supporting ancient stuff like 5.10LTS is Debian-specific.

The advisory this meme is about only relates to the 6.12 kernel in Debian 13 "trixie" (Debian's current stable release), and 1,295 of these 1,313 CVEs are from 2026.

Linux 6.12 is the SLTS ("super long-term support") release from 2024, so the Linux Foundation's Civil Infrastructure Platform plans to continue backporting security fixes to it until 2035.

Debian stopped supporting Debian 11 "bullseye" (the one with a 5.10 kernel) in August, but that kernel is also an SLTS which CIP plans to support until 2031.

So, no, continuing support for these kernels is not something Debian-specific.

Here are the versions of linux-image-amd64 in Debian currently:

    bullseye (oldoldstable) (kernel): Linux for 64-bit PCs (meta-package)
    5.10.262-1 [security]: amd64
    bookworm (oldstable) (kernel): Linux for 64-bit PCs (meta-package)
    6.1.187-1 [security]: amd64
    bookworm-backports (kernel): Linux for 64-bit PCs (meta-package)
    6.12.95-1~bpo12+1: amd64
    trixie (stable) (kernel): Linux for 64-bit PCs (meta-package)
    6.12.111-1 [security]: amd64
    trixie-backports (kernel): Linux for 64-bit PCs (meta-package)
    7.1.13-1~bpo13+1: amd64
    forky (testing) (kernel): Linux for 64-bit PCs (meta-package)
    7.2.8-1: amd64
    sid (unstable) (kernel): Linux for 64-bit PCs (meta-package)
    7.2.8-1: amd64
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cypherpunks 10 points 10 days ago path: 0 26123976, hotness: undefined, score: 10, children: 0
DonutsRMeh 7 points 10 days ago

All with AI

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Agent641 4 points 10 days ago

As in discovered by an AI?

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cypherpunks 4 points 10 days ago

Yes, probably not all but certainly most bugs being found now are.

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klankin 4 points 10 days ago

As in they redefined the minimum requirements for CVEs to make the AI bubble float a little longer imo

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DonutsRMeh 3 points 10 days ago

Most of them, yes.

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kurmudgeon 5 points 10 days ago

If the PS5 is based off of Linux, and some of these vulnerabilities tested, don't impact the PS5 in any way, does that mean technically Sony could get sued for not recontributing code back to the Linux projects? I mean, it means they fixed the issues on the PS5 but didn't contribute it back right?

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CaptainBasculin 40 points 10 days ago

I'm pretty sure PS5 is based off of BSD, whose license pretty much translates in corporate world to do whatever the fuck you want with it.

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kurmudgeon 3 points 10 days ago

You're right, this does seem to be the case. Good to know.

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cypherpunks 16 points 10 days ago path: 0 26125966 26126108, hotness: undefined, score: 16, children: 1
kurmudgeon 4 points 10 days ago

Ah, you're right. It is BSD. Good to know. I was simply posing a hypothetical though, I always wondered about things like this

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carrylex 5 points 10 days ago

vulnerabilities tested, don't impact the PS5 in any way, does that mean technically Sony could get sued for not recontributing code back to the Linux projects?

No.

Let's assume someone ships the Linux kernel in a device and the kernel has a vulnerability in some obscure subsystem (e.g. AFS) that is never used by the device. The device will not be affected by this vulnerability because the code can't be reached.

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StabbingSky 1 point 10 days ago

No, there's no legal requirement to contribute to projects you've used and modified, unless the license explicitly states so.

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TomMasz 3 points 10 days ago

It took me a while to scroll through the list of CVEs. Clearly, a whole new meaning for the word "few" that I was unaware of.

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