Winning over one voter is much harder than convincing someone not to vote. It’s exactly the sort of strategy an effective political actor would engage in to win when faced with a deeply unpopular party.
Those sternly worded letters are sure to work this time
8 days ago by SaltyAmerican to c/latestagecapitalism
Winning over one voter is much harder than convincing someone not to vote. It’s exactly the sort of strategy an effective political actor would engage in to win when faced with a deeply unpopular party.
It really gives away just how much you shitlibs go out to brunch between elections that you assume they only say this during elections
"People who held a belief in the past still hold it now? How suspicious!"
*anarchist
Ah yes, removing a top comment from the thread is such a power move. It's so cool how you seem to know my political views, please tell me everything else I think.
Thin skinned cowards here.
Since I was not clear the first time, your ideology is not welcome here. This is a communist space. This is a leftist space. Democrats are not left-wing, they are not leftist, they are fascists. We have a fascist in the White House because of fascist Democrats getting him elected.
You are the reason no one stays on lemmy
Progressives are winning more and more seats
Can't undersell the amount of progress DSA and its allies have made in the last six years.
But we're talking about half a dozen Congressional seats. A smattering of state and local races. Lots of people who are totally untested and unproven. Lots of people - like El Sayud and Mamdani - who seem more than happy to meet Zionists and bigot reactionaries halfway.
And they're squaring off against legions of ICE goons, corporate drones, and fascist billionaires fully on board with mass extermination of their opponents.
Look at Bo French down in Texas. This is a guy who is advocating a Holocaust of 100M people across the US. He's polling even with Jon Rosenthal, a Democrat who wants to maybe raise taxes on energy companies a little bit.
the DNC will be replaced
I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for it to happen.
Didn't the DNC largely get taken over by progressives already? Which is probably why progressives are sometimes winning primaries now: The DNC aren't ratfucking them anymore.
For those complaining that the DNC not endorsing progressives until after they won the primary -- that's what "not ratfucking the primary" looks like. The DNC is not supposed to play favorites in the primary.
It's going to take a while before there's traction in actual Congress, though, because they take longer to replace. But as soon as you have enough progressives to get actual leverage, you're going to start seeing a lot more happening.
Not even close. DNC is largely a conservative, neoliberal party.
Those progressives you cheer for still uphold the oppressive systems that keep the working class down.
"A different opinion to mine? Clearly an evil foreigner!"
The kind of massive change we'd all like to have happen doesn't come instantly - at least not without massive upheaval and destruction that would waste a LOT of lives.
Sure. Doesn't mean people can't have feelings about it though. The dems have done very little to effectively fight the GOP. Doesn't mean OP won't support them but expressing a little frustration is not undermining anything.
Who are you cheering for?
doubt
Those progressives you cheer for
Make up maybe 5-10% of the party as a whole. They're not the problem
Posts like this only help the fascists. They have no other purpose.
The accountability Democrats created after a literal attempted coup, and having the power to do something about it for four years:

We're here because of the repeated and reliable failure of Democrats. And that failure is possible because of commentors like you.
So you support Republicans then?
So you support Republicans then?
If you take a glance at their profile you can see they don't actually believe in voting because they think the west (which let's be honest no one from the US calls ourselves that) is all evil lol
The West is one single evil entity
No. You're missing the point. Suppression is not what tricking you into believing voting making a difference when the trick was always to make you think that what is done to you is what you asked for. In this particular when Trump took a criminal stank of green blood of gold to do and eat this dirt work being done and nothing at all for the Jerry rig to the card "shuffler."
With Gruesome Newsom being the possible front leader of the Democrats for presidential candidates they're utterly not hiding they don't care about human rights. They'd happily walk back LGBT+ rights to stay in office at this point.
He's a typical MAGA in Democrat clothing. He criticizes Trump, but he doesn't do anything to punish the Sociopathic Oligarchs that we all know are the heart of the problem. He is perfectly cast for his role as the President where nothing much happens, and MAGA will rise for another bite of Treason Profits.
Simply put, transphobe. Uses the same rhetoric as the far right. As well his policies on homelessness and handling it in Cali is pretty piss poor. He's another example of fascist lite put forward by the Dems who are trying to appear more right.
https://calmatters.org/...
They will always laud the good and downplay the negative.
he seemed to have fell of the news as of late.
Best case scenario we get a dozen DSA's elected and their presence numerically forces a small measure of change. The centrists are probably insider trading off their security briefings and aren't going to do anything to stop the golden goose.
The fascists already won. Your only power now is local, as we saw in LA, Portland, Chicago, and Minneapolis earlier this year.
I love how a simple and obvious critique of the perpetual failure which is the Democratic party is almost routinely met with the Hey this isn't cheerleading?! retort.
No it's not. Don't be a fucking moron.
Democrats have earned every fucking iota of critism that can be mustered and it's 💯 deservered.
What actually hurts Democrats is this unnecessary, thoughtless, cheerleader protection you offer them.
Democrats can't do better if they don't change, entirely, as a party, and guarding them from well warranted critism has done lasting and material damage to their ability to be a bulwark agaisnt fascism. You hurt Democrats chances when you dismiss critiques of them with this kind of "but Republicans bad too" shit.
As an enterpuse, Blue MAGA is largely respond for the revivL of fascism and this act you are putting on, it's central how that process functions.
Interesting crap. The only truth here is if you don’t vote, you have voted for the winner. All this business about not liking a party or candidate and not voting is essentially just voting for the winner. Not very smart and just planning to roll over and take it.
schumer and hakeem will do this 100%.
Which is why the MAGA comedy act of Schmuck & Jeffries has to get the hook and be dragged off stage. They are 50% responsible for the rise, and re-rise of MAGA, and they e done nothing to earn a third chance at containing them.
It's time we give competent, committed people the job of resisting MAGA, since these two have fully proved that they are not up to the task. In fact, when this is over, and we're investigating everybody, we should also check into these two losers, because we'll almost certainly find they were collaborating with MAGA all along. If that's true, then they should end up in jail with their MAGA friends.
they also wrote nyt best seller books in protest, and did photo ops in protest, traded stocks in protest, secretly met with kushner in protest.
HA HA BOTH SIDES
I heard this so much during Biden's term of "holding Dems accountable" and "we're pushing them left".
Then Biden did this right before leaving (not even accounting for all the anti-worker shit he did before then during his time in office). Yeah we really held them accountable and pushed him left.
Lol, you really think anyone believes this anymore?
Must be getting hard; at this point BlueMaga liberals are having to memory hole the entire Biden administration
Yes, we do. The next Dem Congress isn't going to be like the last one. There are already a bunch of angry progressives, and a bunch of Dems that want off the leash, and there will be a lot more coming in after the Midterms. These aren't feckless losers like Schumer, these people chose to run because they're PISSED OFF at the Schumers and Jeffries in Congress. They are not going to accept orders to back off of MAGA punishment.
Dems that don't go along with a committed strategy of crushing MAGA, will find themselves being investigated, too. What are you trying to hide? MAGA will be the prime target, but it's perfectly okay if we haul out some Democrat trash, too, starting with Schmuck & Jeffries.
This is what we demand, and we are electing Progressives and new blood to do it, and handing Dems majorities in BOTH Houses. They BETTER go after MAGA, or we're coming after them, too.
Yeah man, I'm sure Lucy will let you kick the football this time.
They BETTER go after MAGA, or we’re coming after them, too.
Uhuh, by voting for them again?
It couldn't possibly be the Democrats doing nothing that causes voters to be apathetic, rather than users of an obscure social media platform complaining. I mean, c'mon, we gotta be realistic!
That's a mighty fine strawman.
If history is any guide they'll enthusiastically fund his every whim.
Waiting for justice for Trumps role in J6 from the period of J7 2020 till November 2024:

Remember how lib's were sucking off Meuller, and then Garland, and then smith while Justice lay "just around the corner". Pepperridge farms remembers.
Our problem isn't actually Republicans. Republicans are predictable and always will do the worst thing. They can be easily stopped if Democrats had the will to act. Our problem is Democrats who shield republicans from accountability, and those who protect Democrats from criticism and replacement.
No that's not our fucking problem dude. Our problem is shitlibs and blue MAGA for a party which should have been burnt to the ground because of their inability to stop fascism back in 2016. Instead, cowardly blue maggots continue to run interference a Democratic party which continues to run interference for genocide and fascism.
It's not the facists preventing us from stopping fascism. Genuinely. It's Democratic leadership and their geriatric control of the party structure which has enabled fascism in the first place. Nothing of the current moment is possible with our Democrats and how theyve governed in the past decade. And nothing of their governence is possible without apologists like you .
Third time's the charm right? They'll totally actually get rid of him this time unlike the previous times they wasted time and money doing it.
It's 2026 and there are still people who think there's more than one political party in the US.
Even worse, some of them are convinced that just spending 3 minutes of their life signing a piece of paper will be enough to change anything.
Note that I'm not discouraging anyone from voting. I don't care whether you do or don't, but I'd strongly encourage you to do literally anything else either instead of or on top of voting.
Just voting is how we got two world wars, with a third one well on its way, a dozen genocides, countless people dying from lack of access to basic necessities, and so on.
Clearly it's not enough. And not just in the US, but everywhere.
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