AI Is Not 'Super Intelligence.' Why No One Should Use Trump's Term

3 days ago by TryingToBeGood to c/politics

Commentary: Words evolve based on public use and technical precision, not because a president orders people to adopt them.
kmartburrito 63 points 3 days ago

Trump is an absolute moron. No one should listen to anything he says, other than his admissions of crimes committed.

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CharlesDarwin 7 points 3 days ago

And most especially of something of a technical matter. And no, his "genes" don't fucking matter, either, LOL. No one gives a flying fuck who his uncle was.

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deeprlyeh 46 points 3 days ago

It’s not even called AI. Im certainly not calling in SI.

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becausechemistry 33 points 3 days ago

I refer to them as either “the LLM” or “the robot” at work and boy howdy the AI bros do not like it

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nilloc 7 points 2 days ago

I call them chatbots or fancy autocomplete. LLM maybe for the better coding agents, but that’s still being generous. Slopbots for the music, website, and image generators.

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mojofrododojo 1 point 2 days ago

roided up eliza.

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CannonFodder 4 points 3 days ago

I refer to them as G.P. This is a somewhat inside joke for those who were in Ontario and watched Tales of the Riverbank on TVO (aka Hammy Hamster) in the 1960's and 70's. Hammy's friend G.P. was a guinea pig. They'd get up to all sorts of adventures. It wasn't a cartoon, but filming of real animals in sets with models and with voice dubbing, and a narrator. They obviously put food down where they wanted the animals to go, and I'm pretty sure they glued the paws to steering wheels and the like sometimes. There was also Martha Mouse, who was clearly a white rat. One time the animals ... oh, but that's another story. (That's how the episodes ended and it was fucking annoying).

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lIlIlIlIlIlIl 0 points 3 days ago

Why wouldn’t they? That’s what every AI bro calls them

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CharlesDarwin 7 points 3 days ago

Many AI bros get mad when you say LLM. I wish it was an easier term to say, honestly. It reminds me of the days when everyone would stumble over saying "www".

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lIlIlIlIlIlIl 1 point 3 days ago

Never heard this before. AI bros are the first to say “clankers” in my experience. You might just know some weirdos

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TeaWithDani 2 points 3 days ago

I was starting to think it should be called SI, but short for Simulated Intelligence. Its a good description of these tools, which look intelligent but are not truely intelligent.

Then Trump came out with his bullshit.

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salarua 33 points 3 days ago

I know this isn't the point of the article, but honestly we shouldn't be using the term "AI" either. By implying that ChatGPT et al are intelligent, even if that's not our intention, we feed into the hype. I found this article proposing alternative, more accurate terms: https://buttondown.com/...

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JoMiran 20 points 3 days ago

Probabilistic Automation is probably the best term for a majority of what the orange buffoon calls "super intelligence".

I hate that this went from "we want to detect cancer early" to "steal and monetize everything".

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Flower 3 points 3 days ago

The tech bros have destroyed the believe everyone had about progress. These days not much people believe more inventions and technology will actually improve our lives.

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CharlesDarwin 2 points 3 days ago

Yeah, I hate how assholes like donnie are wanting to cash in. So very very much. I remain hopeful about its practical applications in many fields - and they are there, in spite of what many haters say. I hate that the focus seems to be about how many jobs we can "disrupt" or destroy based on stolen works (code, art, books). I'm so very sick of what it's doing to the IT world in which I work. Instead, it could have been mostly about trying to supercharge scientific and technology endeavors, and mostly that. Instead, the oligarchs seem to be aiming it at stealing the jobs of creatives.

We desperately need someone smart and informed on the matter with a big platform that can split the difference. People like donnie and musk ain't it but because one is in the WH and the other has too much money, we get to listen to their "thoughts" on the matter.

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PancakesCantKillMe 7 points 3 days ago

The first thing I broach on the topic is that there is no intelligence. It is a language model that uses an algorithm to determine speech and conversation. It is limited to whatever it has scraped from humanity and offers nothing further. Each different LLM has its own predilections and tendencies. Some better than others, but all of it is unintelligent and will confidently tell you a wrong answer. Furthermore, it devolves into hallucinations very quickly. What have I missed or what should I add?

Edit: Article correctly states LLMs should not be anthropomorphized and "hallucination" lends to that. But I feel "undesirable outputs" is too soft even though it does strip the humanity from the LLM.

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obvs 2 points 3 days ago

I think it might make sense to call it "Augmentive Intelligence", because it is not intelligence on its own. It has major issues when it comes to reasoning on its own, but for someone who actually is intelligent, it can add to that person's ability to accomplish things. So it augments that person's intelligence, instead of being an intelligence on its own.

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Doomsider 4 points 3 days ago

Good stuff

artificial intelligence → probabilistic automation

hybrid intelligence → augmented human intelligence

image recognition → image labeling

speech recognition → automatic transcription

the model shows bias → the model reflects bias

model mistakes → model errors

chatbots are good at … → chatbots are good for …

hallucination → undesirable output

goal → success condition

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RememberTheApollo_ 25 points 3 days ago

“Stolen intelligence”

Took everything from everyone without their permission and said “I made this!”

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stinkytofuisgood 6 points 2 days ago

Wanna know the new term I made?

Stolen intelligence.

Pretty good, right?

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RememberTheApollo_ 6 points 2 days ago

Now we both pay each other the same huge sum of money and tell everyone about all the revenue and investment we have done.

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stinkytofuisgood 1 point 2 days ago

Hey, I have an idea...

Reality really is more absurd than fiction.

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JeeBaiChow 21 points 3 days ago

It's just marketingspeak from a moron who doesn't understand the tech, or it's capabilities.

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Carmakazi 22 points 3 days ago

My understanding is that it's a willful scam to sell .si domains. Of course that doesn't mean he came up with it or that he isn't a moron who doesn't understand.

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a_non_monotonic_function 6 points 3 days ago

He doesn't have to be smart to own significant blocks of them. Somebody just has to whisper to him that there's a lot of money to be made.

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Rhaedas 4 points 3 days ago

If lots of people, including powerful people, change what they call something because he told them to, that's just feeding his ego. That's all he's in for at this point. At least this is a grift to also make money off people, I didn't see any way to profit from changing Lake Ontario's name, except maybe as a distraction in the media, and again, his ego.

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YurkshireLad 3 points 3 days ago

This makes the most sense. No doubt one of his kids came up with the grift, probably Baron.

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lightnsfw 15 points 3 days ago

Why No One Should Use Trump's Term

Because it's what Trump wants and he made it up on a whim. The fact that people are even entertaining the idea enough to write articles about it is asinine.

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vegeta 12 points 3 days ago

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ThanksObama 12 points 3 days ago

And here I am still calling A1.

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Kolanaki 10 points 3 days ago

That's insulting to steak sauce.

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Raiderkev 8 points 3 days ago

I mean, the steak sauce is insulting to steak. Pretty sure it's actually the perfect name.

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anon_8675309 11 points 3 days ago

Again: this is a loyalty test to see who all is loyal to Trump.

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Bustedknuckles 10 points 3 days ago

I saw a suggestion I'd like to second: just call it "Trump intelligence"

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AA5B 6 points 3 days ago

Please no. LLMs can usually string together coherent sentences and have a much tighter grasp of reality

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Johnmannesca 9 points 3 days ago

Freedom Fries moment

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Mantzy81 8 points 3 days ago

It would seem like "super intelligence" when you're as mentally incapacitated as Trump or MAGA. So would a stale quiche, but I digress.

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dylanmorgan 7 points 3 days ago

Because literally every time he says “actually you should call it [x]” it’s the dumbest thing said that day, only surpassed by other stupid shit he might say.

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Asafum 7 points 3 days ago

I swear this fucking buffoon should have just been an explorer or something with how much he just loves naming shit

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AbouBenAdhem 11 points 3 days ago

Most explorers named things that already had names, too.

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switcheroo 6 points 2 days ago

Watch, next up the Pedo-in-Chief will state that AI (not calling it the stupid ass term dickless made up) needs to be considered people.

You know, like how businesses are considered people now. You see where this is going...

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mojofrododojo 3 points 2 days ago

I GOT SEVEN HUNDRED MILLION VOTES FROM STUPOR INTELLIGENCE!

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moldy_rice 6 points 3 days ago

Maybe we could call it "Stupid Intelligence"?

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explodicle 1 point 2 days ago

If the LLM was a coworker, they'd be fired for incompetence.

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Nouvellalia 5 points 2 days ago

The agreements between OpenAI and Microsoft hinge on "super intelligence" specifically. In exchange for billions in early investment, OAI has to share it's model tech with MS until ASI is developed.

I wouldn't be surprised if all this is just a power play, with OAI bribing trump to get off the hook.

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Assassassin 5 points 3 days ago

Cnet is now classified as a terrorist organization

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kaotic 5 points 3 days ago

During his announcement about this the phrase “Artificial makes it sound fake.” I’m sitting at home thinking “thats because it is fake!”

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Ramsesder13te 5 points a day ago

"Why no one should use Trumps term" duh...

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bedwyr 5 points 3 days ago

Call it special intelligence and imply it is mentally deficient.

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CharlesDarwin 4 points 3 days ago

Yes. Now we need people with more money and more of a platform to say this.

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Pratai 4 points 3 days ago

His little robot worshippers will.

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Treczoks 3 points a day ago

Well, for Trumps level of intelligence, a parrot with a dictionary must look like it's super intelligent.

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leftzero 3 points 2 days ago

Look at it from Trump's perspective, though. Even a simple markov chain like eliza is super intelligence compared to what's going on in his brain...

(No, but seriously, this whole SI thing is really just a scam by his handlers to resell Slovenian domains at an inflated price.)

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phutatorius 2 points 2 hours ago

"Stochastic parrot" is a better term.

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BauerBender 2 points 3 days ago

May not be super intelligent, but at least it knows who it is.

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communist 2 points a day ago

Yeah but what if china invents super duper intelligence what then??

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stumu415 2 points 3 days ago

The rest of the world doesn't give a flying fuck about what anyone calls anything in the US anymore. You lost.

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Itdidnttrickledown 2 points 3 days ago

AI is no intelligence None what so ever. You don't really belive these agents that are doing all this 'hacking' are doing it without human input? Do you? If you do I got a bridge in Brooklyn for sale.

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altphoto 1 point 3 days ago

People use "racism" instead of something more like "your skin is darker than mine" or "trateism" or "genotypism" which are much more accurate. TM. Trademarked!

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humanspiral 1 point 3 days ago

The term “super intelligence” paints a halo around a highly fallible technology. The fantasy narrative that elites have built around AI has, at bottom, served a financial end.

Just as we are conditioned to accept our teachers/professors as having superior intelligence to respect and obey, and something to seek out in what to read/listen to, and (speaking to my narcisim) possibly even deserves to be listened to. Higher intelligence can be used to sell lies or teach truth. Only one of these pays well.

Super conveys a deserved authoritarian truth. Superior. Fraudster in chief, blantantly lying the most of any public figure every day, is not the most trustworthy source to provide a halo for fraudster bond villains who are more guarded/frank about fallibility risks.

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CrimeIsLegalNow 0 points 2 days ago

Because it's both cringe and inferior to the actually correct and already popularized term, Virtual Intelligence.

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