But in Canada you may have to wait to see a doctor! Checkmate socialists!
We work 40+ hours a week and they tell us we can’t afford insulin for our neighbors, but we can always afford another war
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Diplomjodler3 24 points 2 days ago
JoeBigelow 12 points 2 days ago
Which means you were triaged and are not among most critical cases. Wanna know what happens in an American ER when you aren't visibly in critical condition?
MonkeMischief 2 points 13 hours ago
I unironically recommend watching the gripping horror/drama that is "The Pitt" to understand how ERs work in the United States.
fartographer 1 point 2 days ago
I bet it's something Canadian!
- The cardiologist I fired
jtrek 15 points 2 days ago
I bring it up a lot but the book "dying of whiteness" was a horrifying look into this. A significant amount of people don't want national health care, even if it means they themselves get sick and die, because then those people would get it.
The money facts don't matter. It's just emotional sludge.
psycholocomotor 1 point a day ago
The labor aristocracy does deserve it. The people they throw under the bus don't, but the ones doing the throwing deserve what they brought on themselves.
There is definitely a large section of the white working class that just won't have class consciousness because they have too much to gain from the exploitation of minorities at home and entire sections of the world abroad.
I don't think it's just emotional sludge, I think they really think it benefits them if the other types of people are kept down. Like I think they actually want the threat of death by medically-induced poverty to hang over people's heads.
schipelblorp 11 points 2 days ago
A good part of the reason public health expenditure is so much higher in the US is because public healthcare doesn't generally cover healthy people. Medicare exclusively covers seniors and disabled people for instance.
If we just expanded coverage to everyone, we'd probably be instantly on par with other public health systems on a cost-per-patient basis.
schipelblorp 4 points 2 days ago
Medicare Part D is kind of a cluster fuck. The way the use different PBMs and its your job to create a spreadsheet of all the meds you take, which are covered, and min-max your way to being able to live is absolutely fucking infuriating...
That said, the system absolutely does not push your towards expensive name-brand meds, probably errs on the side of pushing you towards generics, when they are available.
There are other factors on the pharmacy side, including public advertising, so patients demand those name brand drugs, and physician influencing campaigns...
Rivalarrival 7 points 2 days ago
The White House recently posted that it would cost $35,500 per household per year to enact Medicare for All.
Obviously, that's total horseshit, but that's the attitude we are fighting.
chiliedogg 5 points 2 days ago
The thing people don't realize is that we already have universal healthcare, but in a stupid, cruel way. A hospital will treat anybody, but they'll go into debt for the amount they "should" have paid, while everyone who does pay already pays for those who can't.
Also - If anyone reading this is uninsured and needs medical attention - get treatment and ignore the bills. Medical debt might as well be imaginary. It's essentially ignored by credit bureaus. Hospitals sell it off to debt collectors who will try to get you to pay, but just end up selling it off again and again until it goes away 99.99% of the time.
Don't ignore something potentially serious over financial concerns.
NotEasyBeingGreen 2 points 15 hours ago
This is not really true though. If you need cancer treatment and don't have insurance (or if your insurance won't cover treatment) you can't just walk into a hospital and demand to see a specialist, much less get surgery or chemotherapy.
Yes they will take you in for your last moments and put you in a corner to die, but that is not what people normally think of as healthcare.
bedwyr 3 points 2 days ago
We know it, thanks for the figures though, I will write this down. I don't want to bother you for a source, but if I cite these figures elsewhere I would need one, and I will, cite these figures if I am able.
atomicbocks 3 points 2 days ago
You forgot about the IHS (second only to the VA in size), honestly one of the best kept secrets in the US… if all the MAGAts knew their tax dollars were going to give Native Americans universal healthcare there would probably be riots on the streets.
For real though, between all those programs there are already like 40 million people on a universal type healthcare system, I’ve never understood why we can just extend it to everybody.
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds 2 points a day ago
true, Germany is famous for no one working
johncandy1812 11 points a day ago
In socialized medicine, you can be unemployed and walk into a hospital and get treatment.
In a private healthcare system, you can be fully employed and have health insurance but still get denied.
cecilkorik 7 points 2 days ago
She's a monster, a selfish horrible monster. Who else is going to kill all those little schoolgirls when the US can't afford to do it anymore, because they're busy only caring for themselves? It's like she can only think about herself. Awful. /s
Lushed_Lungfish 6 points 15 hours ago
You know what the irony is?
Your taxes DO pay for a stranger's insulin. That stranger just happens to bomb children for a living.
vivalapivo 4 points 2 days ago
Wait till their super project for replacing the workforce is complete. Then you won't have a say in where to spend money at all.
SnarkoPolo 1 point 2 days ago
But but that's Private Enterprise Small Government Christian Nation Survival Of The Fittest!
Many people are saying there are communists posting here.
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A place to discuss positive changes that can make work more equitable, and to vent about current practices. We are NOT against work; we just want the fruits of our labor to be recognized better.
Our Philosophies:
- All workers must be paid a living wage for their labor.
- Income inequality is the main cause of lower living standards.
- Workers must join together and fight back for what is rightfully theirs.
- We must not be divided and conquered. Workers gain the most when they focus on unifying issues.
Our Goals
- Higher wages for underpaid workers.
- Better worker representation, including but not limited to unions.
- Better and fewer working hours.
- Stimulating a massive wave of worker organizing in the United States and beyond.
- Organizing and supporting political causes and campaigns that put workers first.
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workreform
@lemmy.world
17806
1699
6876
A place to discuss positive changes that can make work more equitable, and to vent about current practices. We are NOT against work; we just want the fruits of our labor to be recognized better.
Our Philosophies:
- All workers must be paid a living wage for their labor.
- Income inequality is the main cause of lower living standards.
- Workers must join together and fight back for what is rightfully theirs.
- We must not be divided and conquered. Workers gain the most when they focus on unifying issues.
Our Goals
- Higher wages for underpaid workers.
- Better worker representation, including but not limited to unions.
- Better and fewer working hours.
- Stimulating a massive wave of worker organizing in the United States and beyond.
- Organizing and supporting political causes and campaigns that put workers first.
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NHS costs about 4600$ per recipient
Spanish healthcare system 5346$ per recipient
Canada's is about 5000$
The US PUBLIC healthcare spending (Medicare, medicaid, VA, ACA subsidies) is about 5600$ PER CITIZEN (not recipient).
IE:
Americans already pay enough in taxes for 100% free comprehensive healthcare for everyone, but get fuck all. The average household pays between 15000$ to 20000$ for healthcare.
The American system is not inefficient, it is an extortion scam that steals trillions from working Americans and kills about 40,000 Americans per yeat.
Wanting the US healthcare system is like wanting a 9/11 every month.
We could give every American 100% free healthcare, without rising taxes. Imagine what would happen to the economy when every household has an extra 15k$ of disposable income?
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