Accurate.

3 years ago by Schnitzel Bub to c/memes

PunnyName 103 points 3 years ago

I've been too poor this whole time, so the hat is firmly attached.

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dingus 44 points 3 years ago

I've been aware long enough of big gaps in the libraries of streaming services that there was never a reason to give it up.

It took until fucking March of this fucking year for Spotify to have any old De La Soul to stream. Good thing I've had a high quality rip of their early discography for fifteen fucking years. Otherwise I would have been shit outta luck on listening to them.

I couldn't stream a killer album from fucking 1989 in 2022. There continue to be massive gaps in their libraries due to licensing issues and people who just don't want to get underpaid by Spotify.

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MtDewaholic 16 points 3 years ago

At least the De La Soul situation was understandable. Imagine the amount of time it must have taken to track down and relicense every sample.

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chocobo13z 7 points 3 years ago

The fact that visual collage can exist so easily, and yet audio collage is facing an uphill battle, some 40 years later, feels like a big indicator that copyright law in the US still needs a massive overhaul

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cor315 13 points 3 years ago

I've been too cheap this whole time.

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__ghost__ 3 points 3 years ago

My man

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TheChefSLC 4 points 3 years ago

Me too, but for some damn reason, it seems to cost more per month, overall, than a couple subscriptions.

But I will say, I love my setup...

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SeekPie 5 points 3 years ago

Also you actually own the files not rent them, which I think is worth the price.

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DmMacniel 85 points 3 years ago

Way too accurate. Netflix, when it was the sole main provider, was super good. Then the other companies realised the big bucks they could get from streaming/peddling their own shit.

Thanks to this meme, I killed my netflix account. Nicotine is fine :D

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SubArcticTundra 47 points 3 years ago

It sucks when competition spoils a market

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Omega_Haxors 44 points 3 years ago

The whole idea that competition is good is a total libertarian lie. Cooperation leads to the best results. It's just impossible under capitalism.

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vithigar 64 points 3 years ago

It is good, if the competing products/services are interchangeable and they need to compete on factors such as price, convenience, or reliability. For example, competing grocery stores, all of which offer by and large the same products. Or competing mechanics, all of which can perform service on your car.

Streaming services don't do this. They have carved up the market and "compete" by making you choose which products you want more.

Imagine two grocery stores, one of which had all the ice cream, and the other had all the chocolate, and neither could carry things that the other stocked. That is what streaming services are doing.

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AngryMulbear 24 points 3 years ago

Modern copyright law is essentially a state sanctioned monopoly.

Rights holders should be forced to license the content to anyone that wishes to distribute it. As it stands now, they can lock it in a vault for generations if they wanted.

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nightwatch_admin 10 points 3 years ago

Competition on price sounds nice because it prevents excessive prices, but it’s also a root cause of poverty and environmental abuse. Cooperating is much better.

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SubArcticTundra 2 points 3 years ago

Thank you for giving the much warranted economics lesson.

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dingus 13 points 3 years ago

Ehh...it's entirely dependent on the product. Music streaming services are actually all comparable to one another and have not suffered the same fragmentation that the TV and movie streaming services have. With music streaming services, you literally just pick whichever works for you and you can get nearly all the same content. It just doesn't work the same for every market I guess.

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dzervas 6 points 3 years ago

i can’t describe you how much joy your comment gave me. an (at least) anti-capitalism comment in a completely random post. i love it.

thanks for making my day

arrrrrgh 🏴‍☠️

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Omega_Haxors 1 point 3 years ago

Cheers, matey 😉

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billy_bollocks 3 points 3 years ago

Pretty sure I read they’re all losing money hand over fist, which is why they’re implementing ads and jacking up prices. Exception being Netflix.

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8tomat8 79 points 3 years ago

I've just finished my setup with Radarr, Sonarr, Jellyfin, qBittorrent and nzb360. I've paid 120€ for proton vpn for 2 years, 200€ for m2 ssd for 4tb and a few bucks for domain to access my setup from anywhere. Also, I have a 1gb internet connection for 65€ pm...

So, I'm willing to pay... I don't want to spend all this time configuring scripts and integrations(though it was fun 😁)... But paying for Netflix, Prime, HBO, Disney+ and not being able to watch everything I want, simply makes me angry and miserable.

Duck them all. Arrrrr

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Littleborat 15 points 3 years ago

I have outsourced much of the setup you describe to a country with lower law enforcement pressure with regards to torrenting. Costs me 15€.

Worth it for me.

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Blackmist 4 points 3 years ago

Saw some service offering like 100k movies for $15 a month.

Only thing stopping me is the thought of giving my credit card details to a criminal...

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Madison420 3 points 3 years ago

Create a virtual card most banks will let you do it.

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EvacuateSoul 1 point 3 years ago

Those places usually let you pay in crypto also

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dzervas 3 points 3 years ago

do you have a name for the provider?

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Littleborat 5 points 3 years ago

It's a seed box I should have written that. If you google seedboxes it should be the first hit or so.

You still have to torrent but it's not on your pc.

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8tomat8 2 points 3 years ago

Is it done SaaS or do you have your private setup? Also what about the speed? I stream 20gb files over wi-fi and can experience issues with stream lag time to time

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Fiivemacs 1 point 3 years ago

I'd say stop using wifi, get a better decoder or get better wifi. Ugh, I really dislike wifi.

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8tomat8 1 point 3 years ago

Well... it is a quote powerful wifi6 device and I get problems only with files 30gb+. My question was mostly about the internet connection affect in this case

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michaelrose 4 points 3 years ago

It also requires you to skip from page to page. You need a page to search to tell you what page to to go search for what you want to watch

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slurpeesoforion 63 points 3 years ago

Are ya ready, kids?!?

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DmMacniel 42 points 3 years ago

aye aye captain!

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Jerb322 22 points 3 years ago

Oooooooh!

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intelati 18 points 3 years ago

Who lives in pineapple under the sea?

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TheBeef 21 points 3 years ago

Jeff

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drew_belloc 13 points 3 years ago

Who pirates shows and hate netflix?

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EvolvedTurtle 37 points 3 years ago

Every time I see this meme there's another platform on here

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lord_ryvan 5 points 3 years ago

Because there's a new platform (being annoying) every time this gets reposted, which is a lot!

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art 35 points 3 years ago

As we approach every service charging $30 a month, there's going to be a point where the average consumer will just give up.

Meanwhile, your seedbox will still only be $5.

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Churbleyimyam 2 points 3 years ago

That's cheap. Where do I sign up?

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art 2 points 3 years ago

I pay $5 for evoseedbox.

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Rozauhtuno 34 points 3 years ago

Say the line, Gabe!

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Semi-Hemi-Demigod 32 points 3 years ago

I subscribe to a bunch of services but still pirate all the shows because it's nicer to have them all in one place

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PP_BOY_ 9 points 3 years ago

Why do you subscribe then?

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dingus 22 points 3 years ago

Probably for the convenience of partners/children.

Lots of people who aren't super deep into computer nerdy shit get outright confused when faced with options they've never heard of like "Plex." Sometimes it's just more convenient to respect your partner and keep Netflix because it makes sense to them.

Plex doesn't have easy-to-use parental control options and a lot of parents who might have the time to set up a Plex server for themselves may not have the time to muddle through the parental control options than just accepting that most streaming services have a kid-friendly section already set up and easy to access. Plex's matching algorithm isn't perfect, and opening it to your kids means you've got to make sure the matching is perfect. I've definitely had adult shows be recognized by the matching algorithm as children's shows. If you don't catch that, your kid can end up watching something you'd rather them not. It's just a lot more work to manage your Plex parental controls than just using the off the shelf setup from the streaming services.

Neither of these apply to me, but I know folks who have Plex plus subscribed services for these reasons.

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Semi-Hemi-Demigod 9 points 3 years ago

Plex actually has better parental controls than Netflix. You can even limit people to specific libraries so just put all the kid stuff in one and you’re good to go.

Really it’s that having everything in one place is more convenient.

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dingus 6 points 3 years ago

I agree, but better /= easier to use for a lot of folks. For folks like us its a piece of piss, sure, but not everyone sadly.

Plus, like I pointed out, it means you have to be a lot more vigilant about making sure matches are correct. Plex makes mistakes.

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wren 4 points 3 years ago

Agreed. Sometimes I’ll get a text saying ‘the plex thing wont load’ and it doesn’t really make sense to them when I say ‘yeah, I took my computer today’

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danc4498 -2 points 3 years ago

‘yeah, I took my computer today’

Kinda a dick move, eh?

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Semi-Hemi-Demigod 5 points 3 years ago

They came free with a bunch of other things so I subscribe until they start charging me, and then they're like "oh no don't go here's a free year" and I'm like "okay." I'd steal it anyway but at least this way it's a little ethical.

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stevehobbes 2 points 3 years ago

It’s an unpopular take here I would guess, but because they have the money to do it, and it’s the right thing to do.

The unfortunate thing is the actual actors/writers/producers aren’t getting paid because they’re paid per stream that Disney or whatever won’t count because it’s pirated.

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Taleya 8 points 3 years ago

I have nutflex but still ended up downloading ld&R because they would not stop fucking up the episode order or playing no more than one at a time before rotating back to a reshuffled episode menu and i JUST WANTED TO WATCH THE FUCKING SHOW

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ryo 15 points 3 years ago

I have nutflex

You should get that checked out.

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glorious_albus 3 points 3 years ago

Weird flex, but ok.

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dzervas 2 points 3 years ago

if you’re talking about UI/UX check out stremio. it’s groundbrakingly good

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HawlSera 32 points 3 years ago

Corporations had a good thing going on, they fucked it up.

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be_excellent_to_each_other 40 points 3 years ago

Corporations had a good thing going on, they fucked it up.

Show me nearly any problem the US has and I will boil it down to Corporate Greed and/or Racism.

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Imperfect0797 10 points 3 years ago

I have a ring set aside for the first woman I meet that says this

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be_excellent_to_each_other 1 point 3 years ago

Sorry man, but you haven't found her yet. 😁

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neshura 8 points 3 years ago

I'm usually baffled whenever companies do a long term face-plant for the sake of short term profit. Really goes to show that what academics like to theorize about capitalism isn't reflected in reality. Sure the system might work with people interested in long term gains but it very obviously is run by people that want short term gratification and in general just more of whatever they already have. Mostly that means money, because swimming in money still is not enough for these people.

Loot boxes and streaming are the best examples, the companies could have had a thing where they just print money. All they had to do was to moderate themselves a bit and not extort the customer for the last cent. But no, insane amounts of cash flow/profit are not enough, it needs to be ludicrously insane amounts. And after that some more.

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billy_bollocks 3 points 3 years ago

You forgot complacency and apathy

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be_excellent_to_each_other 3 points 3 years ago

Fair enough, but I think we'd be doing pretty good if we eliminated corporate greed and racism.

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kamenLady 2 points 3 years ago

Complacency and apathy like to hang around with corporate greed and racism quite often, so i heard.

There might be a chance of eliminating four ghouls with one spell.

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HawlSera 2 points 3 years ago

Honestly most of my problems in life have much to do with the fact that rich Southerners halted the Reconstruction in order to maintain dominance over the poor

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be_excellent_to_each_other 3 points 3 years ago

So both!

Good Ol' Andrew Johnson.

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Holzkohlen 2 points 3 years ago

Duh, we live under capitalism. Racism can be overcome (not in this lifetime tho), but the greed is built into the system.

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GCostanzaStepOnMe 30 points 3 years ago

The eyes in this fucking strip have haunted me for years.

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TheCee 3 points 3 years ago

This, it would be less deep in the uncanny valley without eyes at all.

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TheCee 2 points 3 years ago

On second though, it doesn't seem like a big improvement. Reminds me a bit of limbfeeders without limbs.

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kibiz0r 2 points 3 years ago

I thought that was hair. I still see it mostly as hair. My brain can only see it as eyes for a fraction of a second at a time.

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Cruxifux 27 points 3 years ago

Ah enshittification, making me not want to pay for your shitty services every god damn time.

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AlexSup21 1 point 3 years ago

This is my new favorite word.

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AlgonquinHawk 26 points 3 years ago

It’s Plex’in time!

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leap123 50 points 3 years ago

I'm more of a Jellyfin person though (all hail open source!)

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Holzkohlen 3 points 3 years ago

based

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Un4 3 points 3 years ago

Does jellyfin support transcoded downloads already? Thats the only thing holding me back from plex. All my movies and shows are 4k no need to load giant 4k files to a phone when traveling.

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Karius 5 points 3 years ago

Yeah, it also has hardware acceleration for on the fly transcoding. It needs some configuration to tell it what you're running it on but nothing particularly major

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XTornado 14 points 3 years ago

Plex is getting worse tough just saying...pushing their own services and now they started blocking certain hosting providers.

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HeneryHawk 2 points 3 years ago

It may be but until other options are available on a PlayStation, I doubt I'll move. I don't even watch stuff but the people I serve to need functionally on the PS... maybe they'll get smart TVs soon

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NanoooK 25 points 3 years ago

Don't forget the price increase and drop in quality.

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CeeBee 12 points 3 years ago

The price increase I can deal with. The drop in quality and getting rid of password sharing (after they actively endorsed it) is why they lost me.

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Churbleyimyam 24 points 3 years ago

Yeah, I used to turn to such activities because it was cheaper, now I do it because it's simpler/easier.

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Hovenko 24 points 3 years ago

To the grand line!!!

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Jerb322 3 points 3 years ago

We Are!

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Shareiff 20 points 3 years ago

Especially with Netflix increasing their prices again here in a couple months…

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SexualPolytope 12 points 3 years ago

As someone who watches a lot of non-English stuff, I could never put the hat down.

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samus12345 12 points 3 years ago

Original comic was 2019. What's the point of adding 2 years?

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whatwhatwutyut 9 points 3 years ago

To make the years mirror better maybe? That's really all I can think of. 2012->2021 has the flip of the last two numbers

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Holzkohlen 11 points 3 years ago

Haha I'm poor

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griD 5 points 3 years ago

Where $currentYear?
Ooook.

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Veedem 4 points 3 years ago

Yo ho yo ho…

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MrScottyTay 4 points 3 years ago

Who the fuck pays for more than one at a time anyway, I don't mind fragmentation because I have no loyalty to one service and will move to one to watch it's stuff, then move when i get bored of what it has to offer. Competition is always good. We shouldn't have monopolies in any industry, including streaming

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bouh 15 points 3 years ago

Competition in a streaming service is an illusion that makes the overall service worse and more expensive. And it's probably not viable long term. Why? Because there is no competition for any one show. If the platform were all streaming the same shows, that would be competition. Instead they simply share the service with each platform having its monopoly on the shows it streams.

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MrScottyTay 2 points 3 years ago

You saying that shows don't compete with each other?

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bouh 2 points 3 years ago

They do not. You can watch and appreciate different shows. You may want to watch many of them. And watching one show will never replace watching another.

In other words, you've not seen farscape as long as you've not seen it, and the expanse or any other show ever will not change that fact. Hence no show is ever competing with it.

What they're trying to do is to make a competition for your time and attention. But humans don't work like that. Culture is a shared thing. Good shows will be shared and watched while bad ones will be forgeted. If you make more shows than people can watch and share, you're simply wasting money. Which is why it's not sustainable.

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MxM111 -3 points 3 years ago

Competition for one show is another show. What else?

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Olgratin_Magmatoe 14 points 3 years ago

It's only going to be a matter of time before they start requiring contracts, forcing you to stick with a service for long periods or face fees for dropping them.

They are capitalists, and so they must always profit more and more, never ending, for all of time. One of the things they will eventually do to hit that unsustainable proift motive is contracts. It's what the cable companies did, and it's only a matter of time.

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hydrospanner 11 points 3 years ago

This is exactly where it's heading, not just for streaming but for anything and everything that can be packaged and sold "as a service" whether it's actually a service or anything that's undergoing the enshittification process of being converted from a product into a service.

Anything that can be converted into a service will be, and anything that can be so converted will, eventually, become a subscription, and from there, into a contract service model.

Honestly it wouldn't surprise me a bit to even see literal standalone products converted into contract based subscriptions over time, given the IoT trend.

So beyond just your streaming service, your TV will have its proprietary OS converted to a subscription and then to a contract, so that you need to sign a 2 year deal with your TV manufacturer to keep it "powered". Don't sign a contract? They brick your TV.

With more and more smart appliances, expect to see companies try this to also force you into contracts to keep your fridge, toaster, smart lighting, microwave, door locks and cameras, etc. functional.

Naturally, baked into your contract will be language that forces you to share any and all data they can collect from said devices as a condition of the contract.

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Fiivemacs 4 points 3 years ago

Food as a service

Water as a service

Get your pitchforks as a service ready

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systemglitch 10 points 3 years ago

Pirating is just so much less hassle.

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SoaringDE 5 points 3 years ago

There is more competition in piracy with who you trust to download from, what codec you find is best and what page / travkers you use. These fragmented streaming services don't have any of that choice to offer

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MrScottyTay 3 points 3 years ago

I disagree for the most part but if you already have a system for watching your pirated stuff sure, or if you just watch things at your computer desk.

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Magnergy 4 points 3 years ago

Ditto.

Canceling cable used to be, at the very least, a long, phone call that alternated between stretches of hold music dulling the senses and combative sales technique verbal jousting. Canceling a streaming service... I don't think that has ever taken me more than four minutes of finding a webpage and clicking. The collective consciousness is in danger of forgetting/underplaying just how far we have come on this.

If pirating ever takes less than four minutes every other month, I guess it will have reached convenience parity. But it certainly wasn't that back when I was in that game. And I really, really doubt it is now.

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tehmics 2 points 3 years ago

After you get it set up pirating is basically zero time. There's some up front time costs learning how to automate everything but after that? Yar har

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miss_brainfart 1 point 3 years ago

People are too lazy to manage when to subscribe where based on what's on offer at any given time.

That's it, that's all there is to it.

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Kanda 7 points 3 years ago

But pirating is just better, I can see what's new across all services in seconds and get whatever I want at basically streaming speed with xdcc

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miss_brainfart 4 points 3 years ago

Most people don't know where to look for to get started on that. Some people don't even know that pirating that show they watch is even an option in the first place.

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abraxas 6 points 3 years ago

No, but as a current non-pirate, seeing the UX of some of the newer tools is mindblowing. "You mean, I just type in any show, it looks it up and to find episode info, then gets me the episodes so I can watch it, without me having to split between services or even THINK?"

The legal show world should have that, but every one of those services are locked-down so you can't have a solution like that in front of them. Heaven forbid we could just license shows like retail locations license radio.

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abraxas 2 points 3 years ago

I mean, I suck-it-up and sub to all of them. I hate the experience and my wife bitches at me at least weekly because it's so much work to find and start a show (to the extent she ends up NOT watching the show she wanted, and leaves some stupid channel on at random). We are so close to cancelling all of them, not for the money but because the experience is complete ass.

Guess what I'll be doing to watch my TV if we do that?

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gravitas_deficiency 4 points 3 years ago

Yo ho fiddle, de dee

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FlexibleToast 3 points 3 years ago

This, but more like from 2010 to 2012. Streaming was only great for a very brief moment imo. It was pretty obvious, pretty early on that every studio wanted to create their own streaming service. It became easier to automate the downloading and have everything located in one spot real fast.

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pewgar_seemsimandroid 3 points 3 years ago

just pay for Nebula and mabye curiosity stream

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Scotty_Trees 3 points 3 years ago

Some of us never dusted off that ole booty hat, arggggg!!

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anarchy79 1 point 3 years ago

I don't even know of the other ones, I am a strictly panel 4 kind of guy.

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slacktoid 1 point 3 years ago
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unagi 1 point 3 years ago

Just use a single subscription at a time, binge everything there, and proceed with the next one!

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PatFussy -2 points 3 years ago

Little old

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Chunk -14 points 3 years ago

Dopamine addicted rat.

Why do you even need to watch TV all the time, let alone from multiple streaming services? Wtf is that?

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